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 Mar 21 2008, 05:35
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 6 Joined: 13th January 2008 Member No.: 344,082 Device(s): BlackJack, SLVR  |
A number of phones (like my BlackJack) can only register two buttons at one time (Dpad+A or Dpad+B) it makes things like a running jump in Super Mario Bros. just about impossible. It would be REALLY nice if you could let the user set one button via the emulator to represent "A+B" thus bypassing the need to press three physical buttons (Dpad+A+B) I'm sure this feature would make MANY people happy including myself and it would also give you one more feature that none of the "free" emulators have, thus making the $10 price more justifiable (not that it isn't already).
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Mar 22 2008, 02:57
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 Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 244 Joined: 25th June 2003 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 8,871 |
QUOTE(godan @ Mar 21 2008, 01:35)  A number of phones (like my BlackJack) can only register two buttons at one time (Dpad+A or Dpad+  it makes things like a running jump in Super Mario Bros. just about impossible. It would be REALLY nice if you could let the user set one button via the emulator to represent "A+B" thus bypassing the need to press three physical buttons (Dpad+A+ I'm sure this feature would make MANY people happy including myself and it would also give you one more feature that none of the "free" emulators have, thus making the $10 price more justifiable (not that it isn't already).Please suggest both in terms of the GUI and inside the code itself how this could be handled in a good/friendly way. Thanks, L.B. -------------------- the fastest instructions are none at all :)
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Mar 22 2008, 02:59
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 244 Joined: 25th June 2003 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 8,871 |
QUOTE(annawu @ Mar 19 2008, 12:46) SmartGear 1.02 PocketPC version GameGear Game : Sylvian Tale After game start and introduction, sprites goes messy With CEgg, the game run very well. Thank you very much for posting info about this bug. This is a problem in my ARM Z80 emulator. I was able to reproduce it and fix it. These are the kinds of bugs I would like people to report. If you can recreate the bug on Windows Mobile, but not on the desktop version, then that points to a bug in my ARM assembly language code. These are the bugs I really need to fix because I use this same ARM code in commercial products. This fix will appear in the next release (probably this weekend). Thanks again, L.B. -------------------- the fastest instructions are none at all :)
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Mar 23 2008, 01:37
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 Hardcore  Group: Posters Posts: 1,972 Joined: 10th July 2006 From: US, Washington, Everett Member No.: 197,656 Device(s): AT&T Tilt (Kaiser)!!! |
bitbank there is a strange bug with saving and loading. when i save over a save, an error message comes up, i cant see what it says cuz the paused game is in front, blocking the error message, i push around in the middle right of the screen where the X is so i can close the error message, but the game saved anyway. This also happens when i load a game. the games can load and save just fine, but an error message comes up which cant be seen either.
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Mar 24 2008, 14:34
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 46 Joined: 19th March 2007 Member No.: 239,569 |
QUOTE(mikeeey @ Mar 23 2008, 01:37) bitbank there is a strange bug with saving and loading. when i save over a save, an error message comes up, i cant see what it says cuz the paused game is in front, blocking the error message, i push around in the middle right of the screen where the X is so i can close the error message, but the game saved anyway. This also happens when i load a game. the games can load and save just fine, but an error message comes up which cant be seen either. More game issues to report: 1) Argus (NES) = solid grey screen 2) Cannon Fodder (GBC) = Loads, but locks up at actual gameplay screen. 3) Blades Of Steel (NES) = screen shakes a lot when sprites contact each other 4) Cobra Triangle (NES) = Sprites missing and locks up 5) Genesis games: About 20% work (so far out of 100 tried), but the other 80% = "unrecognized file", locks up phone, or games loads with no sprites. This post has been edited by rushmore: Mar 24 2008, 15:09 |
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Mar 24 2008, 17:43
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 244 Joined: 25th June 2003 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 8,871 |
QUOTE(rushmore @ Mar 24 2008, 10:34) More game issues to report: 1) Argus (NES) = solid grey screen 2) Cannon Fodder (GBC) = Loads, but locks up at actual gameplay screen. 3) Blades Of Steel (NES) = screen shakes a lot when sprites contact each other 4) Cobra Triangle (NES) = Sprites missing and locks up 5) Genesis games: About 20% work (so far out of 100 tried), but the other 80% = "unrecognized file", locks up phone, or games loads with no sprites. 1) This game seems to run fine. What version of SmartGear? What rom version are you using? What are the steps to recreate the problem? 2) This game pushes the GBC hardware to the limit and I may not be able to fix it. 3) I haven't seen this occur. Can you give the steps to recreate the problem? 4) This game does appear to have some troubles - I'll see if it's the mapper or something else. 5) Genesis will load BIN and SMD files. What files are you trying to load? Please give specific examples of games which hang or load with no sprites. L.B. -------------------- the fastest instructions are none at all :)
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Mar 24 2008, 20:59
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 46 Joined: 19th March 2007 Member No.: 239,569 |
QUOTE(bitbank @ Mar 24 2008, 17:43) 1) This game seems to run fine. What version of SmartGear? What rom version are you using? What are the steps to recreate the problem? 2) This game pushes the GBC hardware to the limit and I may not be able to fix it. 3) I haven't seen this occur. Can you give the steps to recreate the problem? 4) This game does appear to have some troubles - I'll see if it's the mapper or something else. 5) Genesis will load BIN and SMD files. What files are you trying to load? Please give specific examples of games which hang or load with no sprites. L.B. Using latest version (1.02) 1) Not sure of the rom version, but it works with pocketnester. What rom version are you using that works? 2) I know what you mean, but kind of funny that an overclocked z80 is pushing anything to the limit  . I do understand what you mean. This is the number one non-working game for any emu. Apparently the game cart has a little assistance on board. I have the actual game cart, and it seems to have one more chip that others do not have.....3) When you start the game and begin playing, the screen shakes / vibrates a lot. One of my favorite games, so I noticed quickly. Seems to be when the sceen scrolls and sprites make contact. 5) Examples. Please note that I am using picodrive as reference, because the roms I have work with it, but the ones that do work with your emu work MUCH better in regards to speed and accuracy of display. Smartgear works a lot better on the games that do work, so it would be cool if more Genesis games worked. Here are some examples that work with Picodrive. "Unrecognized file" = Alien Soldier, Arcade Classics.. as far as "A's" Program quits = RC Pro Am Racing, Grind Stormer, Killing Game Show, Lightening Force Phone locks up = Sensible Soccer No Sprites = Mega Swiv As far as NES, I would not mind on the games that do not work, but pocketnes does not play as good as Smartgear on my Dash. Pocketnes plays slow for some reason- even with other apps turned off. Smartgear plays perfect. I am only posting this because you asked for bug reports, minus SNES, of course. This post has been edited by rushmore: Mar 24 2008, 21:01 |
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Mar 25 2008, 02:02
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,972 Joined: 10th July 2006 From: US, Washington, Everett Member No.: 197,656 Device(s): AT&T Tilt (Kaiser)!!! |
Hey bitbank what snes games have you goten to run on your desktop build of smartgear?
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Mar 27 2008, 04:23
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 6 Joined: 13th January 2008 Member No.: 344,082 Device(s): BlackJack, SLVR |
QUOTE(bitbank @ Mar 21 2008, 20:57) Please suggest both in terms of the GUI and inside the code itself how this could be handled in a good/friendly way. Thanks, L.B. I am by no means a programmer, but in the GUI it would be under the settings where you set what buttons do what for the NES (also perhaps GB/GBC). it would be something along the lines of: A Button = "user selected button" B Button = "user selected button" A+B Button = "user selected button" <--this could be optional, like a turbo button kinda thing. as far as the programming part i guess you could just have it so when the single "A+B button" is pressed on the phone the emulator treats it as if both the "A" and the "B" buttons are being pressed thus bypassing a hardware limitation via software. i'll try to show you what i mean with my horrible code skills... CODE IF KEYA = PRESSED THEN PRESS_EVENT1 = TRUE ELSEIF KEYB = PRESSED THEN PRESS_EVENT2 = TRUE ELSEIF KEYAB = PRESSED THEN PRESS_EVENT1 = TRUE AND PRESS_EVENT2 = TRUE END IF So with this, even with the two simultanious button press limit on the blackjack, someone would still be able to run AND jump AT THE SAME TIME in super mario bros... now how perfect would that be? anyways thanks for listening to my ramblings. This post has been edited by godan: Mar 27 2008, 04:45 |
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Mar 27 2008, 12:13
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 46 Joined: 19th March 2007 Member No.: 239,569 |
QUOTE(bitbank @ Mar 24 2008, 17:43) 1) This game seems to run fine. What version of SmartGear? What rom version are you using? What are the steps to recreate the problem? 2) This game pushes the GBC hardware to the limit and I may not be able to fix it. 3) I haven't seen this occur. Can you give the steps to recreate the problem? 4) This game does appear to have some troubles - I'll see if it's the mapper or something else. 5) Genesis will load BIN and SMD files. What files are you trying to load? Please give specific examples of games which hang or load with no sprites. L.B. The "unrecognized file" error was due to some being named with md file names. I did not catch this because I thought Picordrive would have the same problem, but it reads md files. Changing the file names to "smd" has made about half of those games to work now. The other half that do not, have are either black screens or smartgear crashes, or no sprites (like Mega Swiv). A lot of the games that crash Smartgear load up, but crash Smartgear when you try to start them (Killing Game Show) is an example. I hope you can get it to work with more games, because I will pay $10 again for that. SNES would just be icing on the good cake to me. This post has been edited by rushmore: Mar 27 2008, 12:20 |
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Mar 27 2008, 17:23
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 46 Joined: 19th March 2007 Member No.: 239,569 |
QUOTE(bitbank @ Mar 24 2008, 17:43) 1) This game seems to run fine. What version of SmartGear? What rom version are you using? What are the steps to recreate the problem? 2) This game pushes the GBC hardware to the limit and I may not be able to fix it. 3) I haven't seen this occur. Can you give the steps to recreate the problem? 4) This game does appear to have some troubles - I'll see if it's the mapper or something else. 5) Genesis will load BIN and SMD files. What files are you trying to load? Please give specific examples of games which hang or load with no sprites. L.B. Here is my analysis of the Genesis module: Notes: *T-Mobile Dash with 8gb micro sd (games on card) *Tested 122 games with version 1.02 *69% worked. People need to make sure roms are not "md", but are "smd" or "bin". *Games that have status "Work: Not full screen" means the screen is squeezed in on the sides. *Most games had little to no sound or a steady clicking sound. Slapfight is one of the few games that had correct sound effects in the test. I tried various settings, but same result. Should sound be working? * All games work on Picodrive (except Super Bubble Bobble), but the ones that do work on Smargear work better. * I did the list in order of status. Flicky Works: Not full screen Midnight Resistance Works: Not full screen NHL 93 Works: Not full screen Snow Brothers Works: Not full screen Sunset Riders Works: Not full screen Tecmo Superbowl Works: Not full screen Tecmo Basketball Works: Not full screen Wani Wani World Works: Not full screen Growl Works: Not full screen Kick Off 3 Works: Not full screen Street Fighter CE Works: Not full screen Arcade Classics Works Cannon Fodder Works Championship Bowling Works Coack K Basketball Works College Football Works Columns 3 Works Combat Cars Works Cross Fire Works Dangerous Seed Works Dr Robotnick Works Dragons Revenge Works Fire Mustang Works Fire Shark Works Ghouls & Ghosts Works Granada Works Joe Montanna Football Works Kyuukai Baseball Works MUSHA Works Madden 98 Works Mario Lemiux Hocky Works Mega Turrican Works Mercs Works Minnesota Fats Pool Works Mega Panel Works Sports Talk Baseball Works NBA Hangtime Works NBA Jam Works Pac Mania Works PGA Tour 2 Works PGA Tour 3 Works Raiden Trad Works Rainbow Islands Works Side Pocket Works Space Invaders 91 Works Sub Terrania Works Target Earth Works Task Force Harrier Works Trampoline Terror Works Turrican Works Twin Hawk Works Ulitmate Qix Works Urban Strike Works Vapor Trail Works Vectorman Works Vectorman 2 Works Verytex Works Zero Wing Works Arch Rivals Works AWS Pro Soccer Works Steel Empire Works Castelvania Works Crueball Works Darius 2 Works D Robinson Basketball Works Decapattack Works Devils Crush Works Dragons Fury Works Forgotten Worlds Works Funcar Ralley Works Gaiares Works Gain Ground Works NBA Action 95 Works NBA Jam TE Works NBA Live 95 Works NBA Showdown Works Omega Race Works Pac Attack Works Panarama Cotton Works Pengo Works Ranger X Works Rockman X3 Works Skeleton Crew Works Slapfight Works PGA 96 Stays at menus Marvel Land Screen flickers Sonic Spinball NTSC warning locks up Megaman WW NTSC warning locks up Mega Swiv No Sprites Eliminate Down No Sprites Sensible Soccer Locks up phone Exo Squad Locks at Sega screen Hit the Ice Locks at Menu Devine Sealing Locks at menu Road Rash Graphics errors Baseball 2020 Graphics errors Kawasaki Racing Graphics errors RC Pro AM Crash to Windows FIFA 96 Crash to Windows FIFA 98 Crash to Windows Grind Stormer Crash to Windows NBA Live 98 Crash to Windows NHL 98 Crash to Windows Road Rash 2 Crash to Windows Rock & Roll Racing Crash to Windows Super High Impact FB Crash to Windows Twinkle Tail Crash to Windows Viewpoint Crash to Windows Crackdown Crash to Windows Double Dribble Crash to Windows Gynoug / Wings of War Crash to Windows Pele Crash to Windows Williams Arcade Crash to Windows Super Bubble Bobble Can't start game Alien Soldier Black Screen College Slam Black Screen Lightening Force Black Screen Undead line Black Screen Wayne Gretzky Hockey Black Screen FIFA soccer Black Screen J League Pro Soccer 93 Black Screen Smash TV Black Screen This post has been edited by rushmore: Mar 27 2008, 17:26 |
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Mar 27 2008, 17:26
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 244 Joined: 25th June 2003 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 8,871 |
QUOTE(rushmore @ Mar 27 2008, 13:23) Here is my analysis of the Genesis module: Thanks Rushmore - excellent job of testing. I'm going to add "*.MD" file support for the next build and see why some of the games don't work. The Genesis module currently has the FM (YM2612) sound disabled because that code is too slow. This leaves only the DAC and SN76496 sound effects which usually is not much. I will eventually rewrite that code and re-integrate it. L.B. -------------------- the fastest instructions are none at all :)
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Mar 30 2008, 13:47
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 244 Joined: 25th June 2003 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 8,871 |
QUOTE(godan @ Mar 27 2008, 00:23) I am by no means a programmer, but in the GUI it would be under the settings where you set what buttons do what for the NES (also perhaps GB/GBC). it would be something along the lines of: A Button = "user selected button" B Button = "user selected button" A+B Button = "user selected button" <--this could be optional, like a turbo button kinda thing. as far as the programming part i guess you could just have it so when the single "A+B button" is pressed on the phone the emulator treats it as if both the "A" and the "B" buttons are being pressed thus bypassing a hardware limitation via software. i'll try to show you what i mean with my horrible code skills... CODE IF KEYA = PRESSED THEN PRESS_EVENT1 = TRUE ELSEIF KEYB = PRESSED THEN PRESS_EVENT2 = TRUE ELSEIF KEYAB = PRESSED THEN PRESS_EVENT1 = TRUE AND PRESS_EVENT2 = TRUE END IF So with this, even with the two simultanious button press limit on the blackjack, someone would still be able to run AND jump AT THE SAME TIME in super mario bros... now how perfect would that be? anyways thanks for listening to my ramblings. I didn't realize you wanted just the single case of pressing button A + B. If this is what's needed and more than 1 person wants it, I'll add it. So is there consensus that this feature is needed by more than just Godan? L.B. -------------------- the fastest instructions are none at all :)
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Mar 30 2008, 14:31
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 244 Joined: 25th June 2003 From: Sunny South Florida Member No.: 8,871 |
QUOTE(rushmore @ Mar 18 2008, 08:55) 1) Thanks for the speedy fix! 2) Cannon Fodder now works again as well (Genesis). 3) I will not try mapper #23 again until you say it is fixed (locked my Dash up the last time I tried- so not trying now). 4) I will would be happy if you improved Genesis and then SNES. Ton of great games on both systems. 5) Since the Neo Pocket uses a 6502 cpu, are you certain it would be a problem to work on down the road? It was designed for pocket games and there are a lot of very good games on it. Just asking. The Neo Pocket uses a Toshiba CPU which I haven't emulated yet. If it had a 6502, I would have added it already. L.B. -------------------- the fastest instructions are none at all :)
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Mar 30 2008, 16:55
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 22 Joined: 19th July 2006 Member No.: 198,623 Device(s): null |
When we can expect the ARM Z80 emulator fix ?
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Mar 31 2008, 00:15
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 6 Joined: 13th January 2008 Member No.: 344,082 Device(s): BlackJack, SLVR |
QUOTE(bitbank @ Mar 30 2008, 07:47) I didn't realize you wanted just the single case of pressing button A + B. If this is what's needed and more than 1 person wants it, I'll add it. So is there consensus that this feature is needed by more than just Godan? L.B. here are others with my problem This post has been edited by godan: Mar 31 2008, 00:17 |
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Apr 2 2008, 11:59
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 130 Joined: 3rd November 2006 Member No.: 212,725 Device(s): XV6700 |
Actually, a more useful fix for the button combination problem would be to add a spot for a button combination (or two) to the list of buttons. It would allow you to select two of the buttons already specified above - by pressing first one button, then the next. Finally, you'd select the button to map to.
Incorporating it would be more difficult to code, but instead of just making one set combination for everyone - it would allow users to combine any buttons they need for a particular game. Even though I use a program in the background to combine buttons, it would be useful for me in some games, where I could map diagonals to one button instead of having to press two buttons that aren't so close together. Anyways - it's not something I really need, but I wanted to suggest a more useful fix to godan's request. |
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Apr 2 2008, 12:06
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 130 Joined: 3rd November 2006 Member No.: 212,725 Device(s): XV6700 |
**EDIT - Never mind, I made a mistake on this post.
Regardless, my point was that flexibility in button combinations would be a big selling point. There are many PPC's and smartphones that limit button presses even to one at a time. My 6700 would have that problem, and not allow diagonals - if it weren't for a background program someone wrote. This post has been edited by PolloLoco: Apr 2 2008, 12:09 |
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Apr 2 2008, 14:09
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