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 Jan 17 2003, 19:52
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Addict  Group: Posters Posts: 757 Joined: 23rd November 2002 From: A DJ Booth in Ibiza Member No.: 24  |
Here Posted From "microsoft.public.smartphone"
Dade: "Thought you guys might like to see the pics I have of Quake 1 running on my SPV. I know its not a binary group but sorry! The .exe is in a very, very early stage of development, we may not bother to take it any further, but what do you guys think?" 
-------------------- "Security will bring about the death of our freedom"
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Jan 17 2003, 20:17
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 Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 116 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: southampton Member No.: 37 |
Please re-think and take this further, it looks great!!!! As you said it's at an early stage of development but how is the SPV coping so far with the game?
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Jan 17 2003, 20:23
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 Staff Team Leader  Group: Admin Team Posts: 17,033 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 53 Device(s): C550 and JasJar |
Let me test it for you Pleeeeaaasssssse
i'll be your friend for life 
-------------------- 3 mobile where the words "customer" and "service" only exists in the dictionary
Smartphone and PocketPC History SPV, E100, E200, C500, C550, C600 (MoDaCo Edition), MPX200, MPX220, MIO8380, Voq Pro, Lobster 700, JasJar, Vario  New and updated Smartphone History Life's too fast can I get off and walk for a bit? I used to be top poster....... |
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Jan 17 2003, 20:25
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 757 Joined: 23rd November 2002 From: A DJ Booth in Ibiza Member No.: 24 |
Heres a follow-up post please remeber this has nothing todo with me i am mearly copy and pasting a post that was on "microsoft.public.smartphone"
From: Dade "Well the source is totally unoptimised for the SPV. To display size hasnt been set to work properly on the phone. The sample rate for the sound effects hasnt been sorted yet. There are a lot of technical issues to resolve, I wont go into them here. That said we have managed to get about 5 to 8 fps out of it with some basic sound setups. The whole thing is a bit flakey right now, sometimes when you run it you get a high frame rate, others you get about half a frame a second." -------------------- "Security will bring about the death of our freedom"
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Jan 17 2003, 20:35
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Staff Team Leader Group: Admin Team Posts: 17,033 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 53 Device(s): C550 and JasJar |
DJHope can you edit your post and give us the full link address of that site
please? ta Ashley -------------------- 3 mobile where the words "customer" and "service" only exists in the dictionary
Smartphone and PocketPC History SPV, E100, E200, C500, C550, C600 (MoDaCo Edition), MPX200, MPX220, MIO8380, Voq Pro, Lobster 700, JasJar, Vario New and updated Smartphone History Life's too fast can I get off and walk for a bit? I used to be top poster....... |
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Jan 17 2003, 20:35
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 Addict Group: Posters Posts: 752 Joined: 5th December 2002 From: Bournemouth, UK Member No.: 738 |
It should definately be taken further! It looks great; i'd port it myself if I knew anything about game programming! Give Nokia owners something to be really jealous about
-------------------- Andy
Now on spv number 3! "The good news is i've been promoted. The bad news is, some of you are going to lose your jobs. Still, every cloud..." (David Brent) |
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Jan 17 2003, 20:37
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 757 Joined: 23rd November 2002 From: A DJ Booth in Ibiza Member No.: 24 |
Erm well the link to the microsoft smartphone forum is
http://www.cewindows.net/newsportal/thread...blic.smartphone Their is no offical SPV Quake site or anything like that! -------------------- "Security will bring about the death of our freedom"
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Jan 17 2003, 20:40
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 The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,496 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
Wow, that would be awesome!
I imagine the framerate would increase when the display size is optimised... P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Jan 17 2003, 20:45
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Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 256 Joined: 5th January 2003 From: Paris, France Member No.: 1,609 |
not if you resize it after working on the virtual display :wink:
-------------------- My real phone is a 3310
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Jan 17 2003, 20:47
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 752 Joined: 5th December 2002 From: Bournemouth, UK Member No.: 738 |
5 - 8 fps is pretty good considering it's running an unoptimized (for the SPV) game engine, redering a bigger screen than it needs to and using higher quality sounds than necessary. I reckon it could be amazing with a bit of work (hint hint). Even 15fps should be just about playable. Not sure about the controls though!
-------------------- Andy
Now on spv number 3! "The good news is i've been promoted. The bad news is, some of you are going to lose your jobs. Still, every cloud..." (David Brent) |
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Jan 17 2003, 23:38
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 Regular Group: Posters Posts: 71 Joined: 23rd December 2002 Member No.: 1,371 |
Awww man, I just hope that's the real deal and not some joker that's done some creative .jpg manipulation.
GIMME QUAKE!!!!!!!! :twisted: |
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Jan 18 2003, 00:12
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 Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 18 Joined: 4th January 2003 From: Slightly West of England Member No.: 1,588 |
I'm forum hopping between here and microsoft.public.smartphone
To add a little more meat to the topic, I borrowed this from DJ XTC's post: >See orange its this kind of development we wanted and if you continue >with >destroying the SPV with certification we will NEVER see freeware >applications like this and quake CANNOT be distributed any other way >since >the source code is under GNU, and im sorry but that dosnt necessarily >mean >it isn't a quality application as some might suggest! > >DJ XTC > As DJ says, Q1 source code was released to GNU by Id Software some time ago. Which basically means it cannot be used commercially. How will it ever get Orange certification if it cannot be sold? - it has to be freeware. There's no way around that bit, I'm sure Id Software have some serious clout, especially if someone tries to sell their 'free gift to the PC community' through a TelCo... The only way forward would be for someone to get permission from Id and GNU [I presume] to pay for the certification and develop Q1 for the SPV for FREE. Could you honestly see Orange, a [greedy is self -obviating with telcos] TelCo, agreeing to someone paying for certification for a killer game to GIVE IT AWAY? On their latest cash-cow? It may actually be worth a try, but unless app signing is removed [do not hold your breath people...] the martyr paying for certification and developing Q1 as freeware route may be the only way you'll ever play it on the SPV. -------------------- aka [RN]Max
Those who can, do. They that cannot ask those who can. The remainder who are too idle, whinge... |
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Jan 18 2003, 00:36
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 757 Joined: 23rd November 2002 From: A DJ Booth in Ibiza Member No.: 24 |
Its alright rn[max] i liked your comments unfortunately i dont see that orange are going to allow this and i forsee the death of freeware on its mobile network!
I have 2 aliases DJ_Hope here at modaco and DJ_XTC over at MS i just prefer it that way 
Although DJ_XTC lessens my credability due to its possible drug reference, however i like to think people look past that because frankly id neva touch the stuff. DJ_Hope -------------------- "Security will bring about the death of our freedom"
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Jan 18 2003, 10:31
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,496 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
How about if a stable, good Quake (unsigned) was completed, we could all chip in to get it certified?
That would work? P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Jan 18 2003, 10:37
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 Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 297 Joined: 22nd December 2002 Member No.: 1,332 |
Yeah Paul, you could ask all your registered users to chip in, lets say 20p, that would be enough wouldn't it? I'll gladly chip in a pound!
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Jan 18 2003, 10:40
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,496 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
Exactly.... Sorted!
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Jan 18 2003, 10:43
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 757 Joined: 23rd November 2002 From: A DJ Booth in Ibiza Member No.: 24 |
Paul i guess thats a possiblity, but would they ever sign something such as an emulator?
It appears that baltimores signing method its much more relaxed because theyll sign apps for you and then if their is malicious code they can revoke the certification and send an update to stop it from running on any other phones (or that was my understanding). Has anyone spoken to baltimore? -------------------- "Security will bring about the death of our freedom"
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Jan 18 2003, 10:54
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,496 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
I'm sure we could get the app signed. I'd be happy to co-ordinate the effort if required...
Of course, someone has to port it first
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Jan 18 2003, 10:59
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 757 Joined: 23rd November 2002 From: A DJ Booth in Ibiza Member No.: 24 |
Yep paul id but some cash in, especially if i win the survey draw
-------------------- "Security will bring about the death of our freedom"
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Jan 18 2003, 11:11
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just some guy, you know... Group: Posters Posts: 1,628 Joined: 29th November 2002 From: London, New Zealand Member No.: 271 Device(s): HTC Diamond |
Baltimore is definitely the way to go...
Their system (as I understand it) is that once your signed up then you get a mechanism on the web that you can put your apps through for immediate signing. The only limitation of the baltimore certificate is that I think it's unprivileged only, so if you wanted to do a network game I'm not sure whether their cert would work. As the price is 500 pounds for 75 signings, we just need to all donate that amount, any freeware that appears could be tested by the people with open phones, and once it's bug free (enough) sign it and give it to everyone else. By getting it tested unsigned we'd not waste Baltimore signings on buggy code. I'd happily donate 10 quid toward a program like this... -------------------- Like a monkey ready to be shot off into space. Spacemonkey. Ready to sacrifice himself for the greater good.
owned: SPV, E200, C500, C600, Wizard, Hermes smartphone software by me : http://www.surrealservices.co.uk |
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