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 C550 - Some good/some bad points
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post Jul 19 2005, 09:41
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pd.ryder wrote
"On the plus side, I like the full hands free via BT with voice dialling - works a treat."

This sounds very useful. How do you get the C550 to wake up to accept voice activated dialling via a bluetooth headset?

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post Jul 19 2005, 17:42
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Kev - I just press the button on the BT headset, wait for the audio prompt (beep) from the phone, and say the audio tag. Dialling normally follows unless there's too much background noise.
I have had a few glitches where the BT/phone connection will not drop following a call. This sends the flashing panel on my Moto HS810 wild and all audio from the phone's system sounds gets fed through the headset. Awesome!


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post Jul 19 2005, 17:44
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Kev - never noticed - welcome to the forum!!
The C550 displays a 'headset' icon on the top row whenever the BT is , so I guess it's always in some form of dialogue with the headset.


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post Jul 19 2005, 20:08
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QUOTE(pd.ryder @ Jul 19 2005, 17:44)
Kev - never noticed - welcome to the forum!!
The C550 displays a 'headset' icon on the top row whenever the BT is , so I guess it's always in some form of dialogue with the headset.
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Thanks, it works a treat - this is going to drive my wife nuts, trying to guess how on earth I am making calls with the phone in a drawer biggrin.gif
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post Jul 20 2005, 04:41
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QUOTE(drblow @ Jul 19 2005, 06:48)
Sorry to be picky - but could you give me a bit of details about what 'fiddling' was required?  How does the code need adjusted?
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On classic Smartphone, the display is 200 pixels tall, with a 20 pixel area for the soft key buttons. On QVGA Smartphone, the soft key area is expanded to 27 pixels, which leaves 293 vertical pixels for the Home Screen. Therefore, you need to resize your background images to 240 x 293 pixels in order to target QVGA Smartphone.

In addition to re-authoring your background image, you need to add the following attributes to the Default tag in the Home Screen XML file:

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<default target-width="240" target-height="320">


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post Jul 20 2005, 07:33
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There's a new button on top of the volume keys which launches Internet Explorer which is handy

Also, is it a new thing that holding the Home key gives a different quick list than the one that a tap on the power button produces?
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post Jul 20 2005, 08:39
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Comparing battery life between C550 and E200, after I got my C550 initial set up done I took it off charge, and left my fully charged E200 on standby (bluetooth on on both). Using the C550 normally, the E200 got the battery warning up at about the same time the C550 lost its first bar. Awesome, an SPV that actually works as a mobile phone without being plugged in smile.gif
The voice dialling is brilliant just hold down the button on the BT device, and another thing that now works is that it hands off between the phone and the bluetooth set (car in my case) as you go in and out of range - the E200 would just stay locked into whatever it was to start with. This is really useful as I can now be talking on the phone walking to the car, and have it transfer over to the loudspeaker as I get in and drive off - there must be at least 5 minutes a month saved through that alone smile.gif
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post Jul 23 2005, 00:11
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QUOTE(Simon Desser @ Jul 18 2005, 15:14)
The power management settings don't seem to work, it seems that whatever setting you apply to the backlight, also gets used for the screen timeout. So if you have the backlight set to go off after 15 seconds, then your screen goes blank too!  :?:


1) Simon, is this still an issue?

2) When in silent profile do you get the new vibrating icon at the top of the screen (as per the latest C500 update)?


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post Jul 23 2005, 00:22
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QUOTE(Simon Desser @ Jul 18 2005, 15:14)
The power management settings don't seem to work, it seems that whatever setting you apply to the backlight, also gets used for the screen timeout. So if you have the backlight set to go off after 15 seconds, then your screen goes blank too!  :?:



I'm also getting this, which is quite irritating.
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post Jul 23 2005, 06:59
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QUOTE(Pagemakers @ Jul 23 2005, 01:11)
1) Simon, is this still an issue?

2) When in silent profile do you get the new vibrating icon at the top of the screen (as per the latest C500 update)?
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Yes, and yes.


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post Jul 23 2005, 11:50
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QUOTE(pd.ryder @ Jul 23 2005, 06:59)
Yes, and yes.
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I bought the C550 and think this is a bad move is anyone wants to upgrade from the C500. Ok the camera is better and the screen is but the machine still takes forever to boot and trying to use bluetooth is a nightmare.

I am sendign the phone back as twice the bluetooth locked when trying to send a file to either my pc or other phone and could not receive anything via bluetooth.

I would have thought they would have vamped the software slightly, but i am now waiting for the next release of software.
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post Jul 23 2005, 12:14
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As far as this backlight/screen going blank issue is concerned, I've realised it's not a bug with the power management settings as I originally thought.

It's simply that this new screen is not "viewable" without the backlight on!

If you look very carefully at the screen in good light, you can see that it's still on and the information is actually there, it's just so dark that it looks like the screen is off!

So I reckon it's something we'll just have to put up with :-(
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post Jul 23 2005, 16:01
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I got mine yesterday, and have to say I'm fairly pleased actually! The new screen is great - loads more rrom for homescreen designs & plguins galore! smile.gif & most of the apps I use regularly seem to work OK. The only ones that dont so far are Xbar & Virtual Pool - both of which is a major bummer, but I'm sure they'll get a fix soon. All the plugins I have tried so far work great (RJTime, Orange e200, smartmonitor). Facade needs a bit of work on the launcher bar, but they are looking at a fix right now.
I really like the new look & feel. The buttons are good, infact I like them better than the c500 & the small back/home keys have not caused me any bother & I like the media player buttons coz I use that alot, and now I dont even need a homescreen plugin to access it. & I like the IE button!
I like the wee clock display when you unlock the keys. I like having more options onscreen in the start menu. Overall I'm quite happy really!

Oh, and while I think of it, for homescreens the softkeys area is 27 pixels (as mentioned here before), but so is the iconbar plugin if it is used. The height of it can't be altered inthe xml so it will need to take up 27 pixels in any homescreen design. wink.gif

EDIT - not to mention the fact that smartmonitor tells me I have 70% free RAM when I boot up!! :shock: My C500 never displayed more than 40% even from a fresh startup.


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post Jul 23 2005, 16:22
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from the descriptions I take it games are doing something like this :-
(this is based on appearance, rather than actual pixel dimensions)

Smartphone appearance :-

Attached File  smartphone.jpg ( 22.24K ) Number of downloads: 26


550 appearance:-

Attached File  550.jpg ( 9.29K ) Number of downloads: 22


the reason I ask is that the emulator doesn't do this, it crashes if the game isn't the right resolution

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post Jul 23 2005, 16:45
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sadly eclipse is a small postage stamp on the screen , least it still works laugh.gif had a few games that dont work at all sad.gif need someone to make a tweak that makes the screen zoom in anyone ???? the small screen is a bit like when modaco changed and the avis grew in size but on the 550 its sadly the other way
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post Jul 24 2005, 14:49
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You got it muff, just like that!!


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post Jul 24 2005, 14:53
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one problem i have is caller id, it does not work well i can get a picture but the templates are missing just a yellow screen sad.gif
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post Jul 24 2005, 15:21
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Personally I'm very happy with my C550, the screen is so much clearer than the 500 and it doesnt appear to be any slower. The games not being full screen isnt too irritating although it would be nice to play fullscreen. But I'm sure fixes will be out soon enough.


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post Jul 24 2005, 15:22
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I'm in the process of getting my firs replacement. I don't knoe if any of you have noticed this problem - the in-call volume keys do absolutely nothing. Either all the way down or all the way up, the volume remains the same. It's fine with messing up the system volume(!) and the handsfree/speakerphone volume, and the 'slider' works. It just won't work with the in-call volume. sad.gif


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post Jul 24 2005, 18:01
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QUOTE(Fredde87 @ Jul 18 2005, 17:47)
hows the battery time on the c550? Compared to the c500 that is
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I've returned two handsets to Orange for what I considered poor battery life.
Others here have disagreed. I've only come across one other user that has the same issue.
My C500 battery at 11 months old seems ot perform better.

Taking into consideration there are very very few people reporting this - I have considered myself unlucky with the two C550's - I just could not bring my self to go through the same thign with a third - I bottled it.

C500 still does everything it says on the tin !


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