MToeR & SP5 Compared, The good and bad points... |
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 Aug 10 2006, 12:08
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 Hardcore  Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620  |
FYI- just used the phone as a 3G modem with my laptop. From a full charge the battery went to 1 bar in 55 mins!
-------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Aug 10 2006, 12:15
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 Timelord Group: Posters Posts: 1,606 Joined: 6th September 2003 From: Gallifrey Member No.: 15,319 |
QUOTE(Pagemakers @ Aug 10 2006, 13:08)  FYI- just used the phone as a 3G modem with my laptop. From a full charge the battery went to 1 bar in 55 mins! Via a wire or over BT? I assume BT, since your phone wasn't charging! Not terribly surprised that with both UMTS and BT going like the clappers that the battery was caned. Either need to keep the power lead handy or connect via USB when using as a modem. |
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Aug 11 2006, 21:13
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
Strange thing....here I am in the USA with work and the battery is still showing a full 4 bars after an entire day.
There is no 3G here so the only thing I can think of that drains the battery so quickly is when the phone is locked onto a 3G network, even if you are not transmitting data. -------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Aug 12 2006, 06:45
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Timelord Group: Posters Posts: 1,606 Joined: 6th September 2003 From: Gallifrey Member No.: 15,319 |
QUOTE(Pagemakers @ Aug 11 2006, 22:13) Strange thing....here I am in the USA with work and the battery is still showing a full 4 bars after an entire day. There is no 3G here so the only thing I can think of that drains the battery so quickly is when the phone is locked onto a 3G network, even if you are not transmitting data. Can you turn off the UMTS when you are not using it? |
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Aug 12 2006, 11:15
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
You can but another user pm'd me to say he'd tried that and lost 50% of battery in ONE hour!
-------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Aug 12 2006, 12:20
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Timelord Group: Posters Posts: 1,606 Joined: 6th September 2003 From: Gallifrey Member No.: 15,319 |
QUOTE(Pagemakers @ Aug 12 2006, 12:15) You can but another user pm'd me to say he'd tried that and lost 50% of battery in ONE hour! Now THAT is weird! |
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Aug 12 2006, 12:35
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
Sorry. My mistake
 This is what he said:"I thought battery life was comparable to the SP5, except when there was no 3G signal (I had the phone set to 3G instead of auto band). If it was searching for a network, the battery would go down to 50% within a hour" -------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Aug 12 2006, 17:26
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
Internet Explorer seems very slow. Not in the downloading of the webpage but in the actual "thinking time" before it does anything.
You click on a link and it seems to say "locating" then "opening" for up to 30 seconds. The SP5 does this process almost instantly. Almost make the 3G speeds a bit pointless. Closing and re-opening the data connection seems to cure things for 10 minutes or so. -------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Aug 14 2006, 20:28
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 1 Joined: 14th August 2006 Member No.: 201,881 Device(s): HTC MTeoR |
Hi there!
Could you please check the version numbers on your devices, cause i have upped my battery time on my new HTC MTeoR in contrast to my old Qtek 8310 (SP5). Could it be something different with different networks, i live in Bergen, Norway in the outskirt of a UMTS area and my phone switches all the time. Im running on my second day now without trouble, and there is still 34% left......... Or was i just EXTREMELY lucky with this version, also when using as a modem over 3G with bluetooth it doesnt get very hot?!?!?! Do you got the ROMver 1.13.251.2 ? Or maybe the trick is to set the language to norwegian?????? lol Somebody has to get an appunlock soon....please...... Brynis |
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Aug 14 2006, 22:13
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
When I was in the USA last week with no 3G network the battery lasted for days. Now I am back home in the UK and just on the fringes of a 3G network my battery lasts 1 day max.
-------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Aug 30 2006, 21:59
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
Sorry, I've lived with this heap of junk for a couple of weeks now and I'm sorry to say I'm back with my SP5.
In my opinion the HUGE failing of this phone are: 1) Battery life is CRAP 2) Rom is buggy. Settings get dropped, phone locks up etc 3) IE is SLOOOOOW. It sits on connecting/opening for ages. All in all, a total disappointment from start to finish. Now, where's expansys's return policy..... -------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Aug 31 2006, 09:14
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 63 Joined: 23rd February 2006 Member No.: 174,344 Device(s): i-mate SP5 |
QUOTE(Pagemakers @ Aug 30 2006, 22:59) 3) IE is SLOOOOOW. It sits on connecting/opening for ages. All in all, a total disappointment from start to finish. Now, where's expansys's return policy..... Pagemakers, can I ask which network you're on? Reason I ask is that on 3G voda, my IE is dead quick, connects practically instantly and I get good D/L speeds. But when I switch to my t-mobile W&W sim, the connection is just as you say- it says "locating" and "opening" for ages, and often times out. I've scoured the web for settings etc and think I have them right, so I'm stumped. Fortunately the t-mobile SIM is on PAYG, so I'm not bleeding money on a contract which I can't use. I agree though, this phone is not great- was released too early IMO. Still, I'm keeping mine over my SP5 as it just about does what I need it to, and I prefer the look and feel. This post has been edited by Thetechnogeek: Aug 31 2006, 12:11 |
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Aug 31 2006, 10:33
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
Hmm, interesting. I'm on T-mobile and the internet performance is awful. That said, I have the same sim back in my SP5 and there are no issues at all. Click on a page and it opens in GPRS speeds. On the MTeoR, clicking on the same page it it would say...
locating................................................................. opening................................................................ x 1000 Then it would finally open the pitiful webpage. Maybe the imate ROM is better? Also i forgot to mention, the MTeoR has a great habit of ringing once or twice and then dropping the call to answer machine when I pick up. Or ringing then the ring volume stutters in and out of silence. Basically, I wanted to love this phone. It does everything I need. I'd be hard pressed to give it 5 out of 10. This post has been edited by Pagemakers: Aug 31 2006, 11:36 -------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Aug 31 2006, 11:28
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 Addict  Group: Posters Posts: 558 Joined: 13th March 2005 From: United Kingdom Member No.: 116,892 Device(s): SPV E650+2Gb Micro SD |
Thanks Pagemakers for an interesting and honest review of the MTeoR. I have had a SP5 for a year now on Orange with no problems. Have used the Wi- Fi in free hotspots here and in Europe with fast connectivity. I like the USB and mini jack connections too. It seems to me the SP5 veers to a PPC where as the MTeoR goes towards a conventional mobile phone. I must confess the MTeoR looks good but I think the SP5 does too so I will stay where I am as I cannot see anything at the moment that can beat the Tornado. Many thanks again for your work.
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Aug 31 2006, 12:09
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 63 Joined: 23rd February 2006 Member No.: 174,344 Device(s): i-mate SP5 |
QUOTE(Brynis @ Aug 14 2006, 21:28) Do you got the ROMver 1.13.251.2 ? Brynis Mine is ROM version 1.13.251.2 like your, and like you I'm getting good battery life when on the edge of a 3G network. Agree with Pagemakers though re the dropping calls after a couple of rings- mine does this quite a lot. |
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Sep 1 2006, 11:43
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 38 Joined: 20th August 2006 From: UK Member No.: 202,722 Device(s): HTC S710 |
Interesting - I'm on T-Mobile with the W&W package and find that web pages load quite quickly on my MTeoR. For example the BBC PDA website opens in 6 seconds and that's certainly quicker than on my previous SP5! However, I've setup my phone with alternative DNS servers rather than the automatically assigned T-Mobile ones, so that might make a difference.
I agree that the battery life using 3G data isn't great, but it's not proving to be an issue for me as it's mainly used for push email and web browsing to the odd page during the day. I also use the phone as an MP3 player for an hour on the way to work and make numerous calls / send text messages during the day. When I get home in the evening I typically have at least 30% battery life left. I've not yet experienced any lock-ups or crashes, but have had one instance of the phone losing the username and password of my data connection - although that was a couple of weeks ago now and hasn't happened since. Overall I like the phone, a LOT - the form factor is perfect for me, the processor is quick and that makes the phone nice and snappy to use which is much better than the SP5. It's a shame that they've removed the 2.5mm headphone jack, but last night I butchered the supplied headset and made my own headphone adaptor cable so that I can use my Sony in-ear headphones. I'm definitely keeping this phone and the MDA Vario II (TyTN) that I got when I signed up to T-Mobile is going on eBay in the next few days! Simon. |
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Sep 1 2006, 12:39
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
TDK - W&W Pro or just regular W&W?
I'm on Pro and I think that's where the problem somehow is. -------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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Sep 1 2006, 12:45
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 63 Joined: 23rd February 2006 Member No.: 174,344 Device(s): i-mate SP5 |
QUOTE(TDK @ Sep 1 2006, 12:43) Interesting - I'm on T-Mobile with the W&W package and find that web pages load quite quickly on my MTeoR. For example the BBC PDA website opens in 6 seconds and that's certainly quicker than on my previous SP5! However, I've setup my phone with alternative DNS servers rather than the automatically assigned T-Mobile ones, so that might make a difference. ............I butchered the supplied headset and made my own headphone adaptor cable so that I can use my Sony in-ear headphones. Simon. Simon, Would you be able to supply us with your alternative DNS settings? I assume you're in the UK? Headphones- I've done exactly the same! 
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Sep 1 2006, 12:48
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 38 Joined: 20th August 2006 From: UK Member No.: 202,722 Device(s): HTC S710 |
I'm on regular W&W and get 1.2Mbit/sec here in central London with HSDPA.
Primary DNS: 194.164.6.112 (UK) Secondary DNS: 83.217.93.246 (Belgium) Simon. |
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Sep 1 2006, 12:51
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,293 Joined: 28th January 2003 From: Manchester UK Member No.: 2,413 Device(s): HTC S620 |
I've tried the couple as supplied by Paul and they appear to make no difference.
-------------------- Phone History: 7110 > T68 > T68i > 7650 > SPV > E100 > 6600 > P900 > Treo 600 > E200 > C500 > Jam > SDA > C550 > QTEK8100 > iMate SP5 & JasJar > HTC MTeoR > Samsung i600 > HTC S620 > Dash
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