Paul Reviews... The HTC P3300, HTC P3300 Review |
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Paul Reviews... The HTC P3300, HTC P3300 Review |
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Nov 12 2006, 21:25
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 12th November 2006 Member No.: 213,882 Device(s): null |
Hello Paul
I live in Sweden and the P3300 has started to show up on websites here but only in grey color. I can see from the pictures here that it also comes in black? Is this true and if so, do you know if it will be distributed all over the world in two colors? I really want to place an order right now but I´d rather go for the black one if it is possible.. |
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Nov 12 2006, 21:47
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![]() The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 24,895 Favorited Topics: 79 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulobrien |
There is only one colour, grey
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Nov 12 2006, 23:25
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 12th November 2006 Member No.: 213,882 Device(s): null |
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Nov 12 2006, 23:37
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![]() The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 24,895 Favorited Topics: 79 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulobrien |
That's just the lighting, it's actually grey
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Nov 12 2006, 23:41
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 12th November 2006 Member No.: 213,882 Device(s): null |
O boy...
And I have sent email to three different companys asking if it comes in black...hahaha... Well, well I have just placed and order and hopefully it will arrive this week. Kind of scary buying a phone I havent tried out but I trust all the reviews I have read... Thanks for your help! That's just the lighting, it's actually grey P |
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Nov 13 2006, 11:32
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 112 Joined: 27th November 2002 Member No.: 181 |
I'm a long time C500 user - love it!!
Am now thinking of moving to one of these "keyboard-less" phones. How does text entry compare? Do you write on the screen or tap an on screen keyboard? Would you say texting is faster or slower (given a few months of use) ? Thanks! Sx |
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Nov 14 2006, 21:03
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 7 Joined: 9th September 2006 From: Australia Member No.: 205,460 Device(s): sharp gx25 |
Does the fact thet it doesn't have sliding keyboard means that every time i want to send an sms i have to use the stylus or i can do that using fingers on the touchscreen? I this easy or it will take ages?
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Nov 14 2006, 21:08
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![]() The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 24,895 Favorited Topics: 79 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulobrien |
You can use a small onscreen keyboard, handwriting recognition, letter recognition or a third party t9 type application such as TenGo.
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Nov 15 2006, 01:28
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 7 Joined: 9th September 2006 From: Australia Member No.: 205,460 Device(s): sharp gx25 |
You can use a small onscreen keyboard, handwriting recognition, letter recognition or a third party t9 type application such as TenGo. P Thanks Paul.....i think i'll go for it!!!! |
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Nov 15 2006, 15:41
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 15th November 2006 Member No.: 214,258 Device(s): null |
I would like to ask Paul as well as other members here about an ideal PDA..... I mean what will make any PDA perfect for you??
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Nov 15 2006, 15:45
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 15th November 2006 Member No.: 214,258 Device(s): null |
You can use a small onscreen keyboard, handwriting recognition, letter recognition or a third party t9 type application such as TenGo. P Paul.. i would like to ask you about Artemis...as u seems to be a sound user of PDA would u tell me what thing u think can be improved over it to make it ideal!! |
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Nov 15 2006, 15:48
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![]() The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 24,895 Favorited Topics: 79 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulobrien |
Make it the Trinity with GPS enabled
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Nov 15 2006, 18:58
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 4 Joined: 15th November 2006 Member No.: 214,282 Device(s): TORQ N100 |
Hey Paul,
I'm on the edge of buying a P3300, but my biggest concern is the Speaker Volume. I was in California on the Weekend with Tomtom loaded on my TORQ N100 aka ETEN G500 and every time John Clesse was giving me directions I had to mute the radio. Thanks in advance. PS: What a lifesaver Tomtom was though, with the absolute maze of freeways to navigate, I'm sure it saved me from a fight or 12 with the wife. Thanks in advance for the info regarding the volume. OH, and while we're at it, the lack of keyboard is a bit frustrating on the N100 (and presumably also for the P3300) especially since I lost my Stylus, are there any BIG button keyboard apps out there. I envision a QWERTY keyboard that would take up all but a single text line, obviously it would need to be oriented from top to bottom. It would certainly help to bridge the gap on the lack of keyboard front. Though I'm getting pretty handy with my index finger nail...do you think it would be strange to file it to a point?:-)) James |
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Nov 15 2006, 19:18
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![]() The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 24,895 Favorited Topics: 79 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulobrien |
The P3300 is pretty loud.
Have you seen SPB full screen keyboard? http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/fsk/?en P |
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Nov 15 2006, 20:44
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 4 Joined: 15th November 2006 Member No.: 214,282 Device(s): TORQ N100 |
Paul,
SPB Full Screen keyboard is EXACTLY what I was looking for. THANKS!!! |
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Nov 27 2006, 19:55
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 13 Joined: 27th November 2006 Member No.: 215,886 |
Paul,
How do you feel the unit compares with the Orange SPV M600, especially the screen. I notice you don't give a great review of the P3300 in comparison, but there seems little difference in spec, except for the in built GPS. I am looking at the t-Mobile variant (MDA compact III) which seems to have WiFi taken out (shame). The screen is important to me though, as I'm looking to use it for GPS in the car, as well as a phone. cheers, e3 This post has been edited by echo3: Nov 28 2006, 12:19 |
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Feb 20 2007, 11:19
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 1 Joined: 19th February 2007 Member No.: 231,178 |
Introduction ![]() Back in February of this year, i-mate released the PDA-N. The PDA-N represented HTC's first foray into GPS enabled PDA devices. The device, also released as the Dopod P100, had a decent enough feature set, but with only WiFi / Bluetooth connectivity and no cellular connection it didn't find it's way into the hearts of many at MoDaCo. Internally, the device was codenamed the HTC Galaxy. Although HTC weren't playing the GPS-phone game, others were. Eten shipped the G500 (now superceded by the X500), Mio shipped the A701, HP offered the iPaq 6515 (now superceded by the 6915) and Fujitsu are joining the party now too with the T830. Well, look out... because HTC are back with their new GPS enabled device, the P3300... and it's a phone too But more on that later ;) Buying the P3300 Using Expansys as a price guide... ![]() P3300 Deluxe Pack (including Western Europe TomTom 6 Maps) - £509.95 P3300 Starter Pack (including 1 TomTom 6 City Map) - £439.95 Expansys also sell the P3300 on a number of different O2 or Vodafone connections, thereby providing a 'virtual subsidy' for the device as if you bought it from the operator directly. For comparison, i've included the prices of some of it's rivals... Fujitsu Siemens LOOX T830 (cheapest package) - £494.95 Mio A701 (cheapest package) - £389.95 HP iPaq 6915 (cheapest package) - £359.95 E-TEN G500+ (cheapest package) - £319.95 In a nutshell, the P3300 is coming in at the top end of the scale price wise, with the exception of the T830, which does however pack a number of extra features (such as 3G radio, full size SD slot), although it has a 240x240 screen rather than the QVGA screen found on the P3300. Unboxing the P3300 For the purposes of this review, i'm covering what I believe is equivalent to the P3300 'Taster' pack (the cheaper one without TomTom Europe, but with a TomTom single city), although my box was labelled a 'Marketing Sample', so I can't guarantee that you'll receive the same in the retail pack (but I think so). THe HTC P3300 arrives in an uncharacteristically large box for a HTC device.. but when you open it, you see why. The box contains the following items: - a HTC P3300 device - a spare stylus - a USB sync cable - a car charger - a stereo headset with a USB connection to the device - a mains charger - a windscreen suction mount - an external GPS antenna The windscreen suction mount is on par with what I have seen for other devices (e.g. the Mio A701), but I strongly recommend that if you are purchasing one of these devices, you invest in a purpose made Brodit mount for your vehicle (DSL Developments - UK Brodit Supplier). Hardware - overview Hardware. Mmm... So that's where the P3300 starts to get interesting. Let me run you through the specifications first... - Windows Mobile 5 for Pocket PC AKU 3 - Quad Band GPRS / EDGE - FM Radio - TI OMAP 850 @ 200MHz - 128MB ROM - 64MB RAM - 2.8" QVGA 65K colour screen - microSD expansion underneath battery - 2.0MP camera - miniUSB connector for sync / charge / headphones - 1200mAh battery - up to 3.5 - 5 hrs talktime - up to 150-200 hour standby - 58mm x 108mm x 16.3mm - 127g - Unique RollR trackball The positives... Let's talk about the good things first The P3300 ships with AKU3, which means it's bang up to date with the latest version of the Windows Mobile 5 operating system. The .net Compact Framework 2 is in ROM, which means all your apps will run with the minimum of fuss. The unit is small and light considering it's packing GPS connectivity! The GPS antenna is internal, so the device has a nice shape, with no ugly antenna bulge seen on other devices such as the Mio A701. The device is a nice dark grey colour with subtle HTC branding. ![]() The device has the unique RollR trackball control method, although whether this is positive or not, we'll come to in the 'in use' section GPS on the device is powered by SiRF's SiRFStar III chipset, the latest and greatest when it comes to low power, high sensitivity GPS chipsets. This is supplemented by 'Quick GPS', the A-GPS service that allows for ephemeris download using your mobile data connection, thereby (theoretically) allowing quicker TTFF (time to first fix). The device stacks up to be a considerable navigation companion. I'm not sure whether to mention the TI OMAP 850 processor as a positive or a negative ![]() Finally, the P3300 features a full size stylus! Hurrah! I've kinda got used to the extendable stubby feeble-excuse-for-a-stylus on the Hermes, but having used the one on the P3300 for a little while now, I realise how much I miss a decent stylus. The negatives... If you're a regular reader of my reviews, you'll know I tell it like it is, and it's exceptionally rare that a device gets away without any negatives. Well... What the P3300 gains in GPS connectivity, it loses somewhat in cellular connectivity. 3G / HSDPA are not available on this device, although in it's defence, it does thankfully offer EDGE data speeds should your operator support it. Again in comparison with HTC's Top Tier devices such as the Hermes, the P3300 loses features such as the side scroll wheel (which I really miss now, although there is the huge scroll wheel on the front!), the LED flash for the Camera (big deal, it's rubbish anyway), and of course there is no sliding keyboard. This wouldn't be so bad if the 'Phone Pad' T9 typing application was present on the device... but we'll come to that later. In common with other HTC devices hitting the market at present, the P3300 has a miniUSB connector that doubles as the headphone port. No 3.5mm or even 2.5mm ports here, you WILL need an adaptor if you want to use your nice earphones The screen seems to have some sort of matt coating - anti-glare I believe, which bizarrely means that when used in direct sunlight, I have found it is very poor in comparison to other Pocket PC devices. It's very strange, particularly on a device of this nature, but I did gauge the opinions of friends and colleagues who on the whole agreed with my assessment. There is no IR port on the device (I find IR useful now and again, but I understand i'm in a minority!) Finally, the RollR! It's a trackball, and a wheel, on a device. Hmmmm. Is it a negative? Or is it a positive? I'll come to that later ;) ![]() Hardware - around the device The front of the device is dominated of course by the screen. It's 2.8" in size... as I mentioned previously it's good, except perhaps in direct sunlight. Above the screen is the new HTC logo, and the speaker. There is a LED each side of the speaker, used to indicate service (green), GPS activity (orange), Bluetooth activity (blue) and WiFi activity (green on the other one!). ![]() Below the screen you'll find all the hardware buttons, and the RollR. The hardware buttons are sensibly laid out and nice to use, the addition of dedicated buttons for your GPS application and Pocket IE is a nice touch, especially when implemented in such a compact but usable layout. The RollR consists of a tiny white ball, which is used like a trackball on a computer. Rolling it up / down / left / right emulates the action of a regular directional pad, and you can also switch to an 'on screen pointer mode' to make the experience more like a Windows PC. The ball illuminates in a funky blue when in use. Around the outside of the trackball is the wheel, The wheel is shiny in appearance, and makes a quiet 'click' as you use it. It performs the same function as the wheel on the side of other devices, i.e. it performs the up and down directions depending on whether you scroll clockwise or anticlockwise. On my particular unit, the wheel is exceptionally 'loose', and feels very cheap. That's not to say it compromises it's use, it still works as intended, it just doesn't feel as good as I had hoped. The back of the device contains a black piece of rubber at the top, behind the right hand side of which is the plug for the GPS antenna. This will be vital for you if you plan using your P3300 in environments such as a car with a reflective windscreen. ![]() Below this, centrally mounted, is the 2 Megapixel Camera. I won't dwell on it too much, as it's a typical HTC camera (poor). There is no flash, and the self portrait mirror is mounted just below it, actually on the battery cover. Also on the battery cover is another HTC logo. The left hand side of the device has a shiny silver strip, which contains a 'voice speed dial' button at the top, which opens the voice recording application when held down. Below this is a conventional volume slider, and at the bottom of the strip is the reset hole. The right hand side of the device also has a shiny silver strip, and at the top is the power button. At the bottom is the Camera button. The bottom of the device is home to the miniUSB port (for sync, charge and headset), the lanyard loop, and the stylus silo. The top of the device is home to the speaker (which actually is on the top / back), which is sufficiently loud for a device of this type. Software When you first spark up the P3300, you're greeted by the HTC logo, before the device launches into the AKU3 setup wizard. Traditionally the bane of Pocket PC owner's lives, the wizard has been improved slightly for AKU3. Most importantly, the annoying 'tap and hold' tutorial can now be skipped! Hurrah! In addition, email accounts can be configured during this first setup phase. ![]() ![]() After the initial setup has been completed, and the device has performed it's Extended ROM customisations (followed by a reboot), the user is greeted by the Today screen. Presented in the now-familiar HTC ultra-green, the layout is very simple. The TomTom homescreen plugin is immediately apparent (TomTom 6 is in ROM on both the taster and premium packs), and the new 'Shortcut Bar' is also displayed. You'll notice the default configuration has shortcuts for power status, screen rotation, comm manager, backlight settings, quick GPS and mouse mode. Let's talk about mouse mode. This shortcut toggles between the regular operation of the RollR (whereby it emulates the directional pad found on conventional devices) and a mode where a pointer appears on screen that is controlled by the trackball. Application wise, all of the standard applications you'd expect from a Pocket PC are there. I won't go through them in detail, rather i'll talk about what's new and different on the P3300
As you'll note from the specifications, the P3300 has what appears to be a good memory size, with 128MB ROM. However, as you can see from the memory screenshot that was taken virtually immediately after a hard reset, things are not too great in this department. The amount of memory that is left for the user is smaller than I would have liked to see. I'm not sure if this is due to TomTom being installed or something else, but should you purchase a P3300, you will definitely want to buy a microSD card, and re-jig the default configuration. Next, I come to Phone Pad. Oh, HTC why has thou forsaken me? In use ![]() My my, so we get to the In use section. Take a deep breath... and read on First things first, let's talk about the general use of the device aside from the RollR. In use, the device feels nice and brisk, with very few pauses belying the fact that the processor is 'only' a 200MHz OMAP 850 ;) This experience is consistent with what I've seen on AKU3 devices in general... the latest OS coupled with a generous helping of RAM (altho not in this case!) adds up to a good user experience. The P3300 holds on to both the mobile signal and WiFi signals as well as my other devices, indicating that the inclusion of a GPS antenna hasn't had a detrimental effect. Likewise, when GPS is enabled, it too doesn't cause any unexpected issues. As previously mentioned, the GPS chipset in the P3300 is the acclaimed SiRF Star III chipset. It offers very high sensitivity with good power management, although that being said, GPS is still a big drain on power. By supplementing the GPS with the A-GPS download function, the theory is that TTFF (time to first fix) is much reduced. Unfortunately, the reality seems to be that it's taking as long to get a fix as my other non A-GPS SiRF III devices, so i'm not 100% sure it's working properly. On the plus side, once I have a fix, I've actually managed to walk right around the house without losing the fix at all, which is very impressive, and something that i've not been able to do on a GPS enabled PDA before now. Having said that, I have noticed some performance issues when using the GPS in the car. I have been running the P3300 alongside my Hermes + Parrot CK3300 car kit, to compare signal strengths. In general, the P3300 has had a vastly superior signal, which I attribute to the fact that it is a far newer chipset and the fact it is sat on the dashboard , unlike the the CK3300 antenna which is actually below the dashboard, tucked away for stealth The Camera on the P3300 is typical HTC fare. It's just about 'acceptable' rather than 'good', and is particularly poor in low light. It lags behind the competition considerably, which is a real shame. It's particularly a shame because the HTC Camera app is really quite fully featured, if only they could work some magic with the sensors on their devices, they could really do well. OK, so I can't put it off any more... let's talk about the RollR. Firstly, I should applaud HTC's innovation... the RollR on the Artemis and the JoggR found on the Excalibur show that as a company they are not afraid to innovate with their control methods, and put them on real live shipping products. However... I had serious reservations about the RollR. Let me start by saying that this is just my personal thoughts on it, and I would dearly love to hear what you, the readers, think of the RollR, whether you've bought a Artemis based device, or used one in store. In a nutshell... I don't see the point of the RollR. No matter how skilled you are with a trackball, I think that your experience with the RollR is going to be poorer than you would find with a real keypad. The ball itself is a little too 'loose' for my liking, and even if you are very skilled and used to the ball, it's too easy to either end up going in the wrong direction, or as I have experienced, 'overshooting' the selection. The 'click' action too can be troublesome, in that I find when I click I occasionally accidentally knock my selection up or down, and end up clicking on the wrong thing. The 'mouse mode' of the RollR has also been a much talked about feature. This mode replaces the conventional Pocket PC control with an onscreen mouse pointer, much like Windows on a Desktop PC. Once again - nice idea, but for me, it just doesn't work. Pocket PC as an operating system just isn't designed to be driven that way, and even after trying to persevere by running the pointer for a few hours... I really didn't like it. I found myself doing a ton of 'pointer miles' just to perform functions that were usually so simple! The wheel works well enough - as you would expect. It feels cheap, and I don't especially like the action, but it works. Conclusion So there you have it, a review that has actually turned out far more negative than I thought it would when I started it. Your experience with the P3300 will almost certainly hinge on how you feel about the RollR. I would find it very hard to recommend the purchase of a P3300 without trying it first, particularly for those who are already Pocket PC power users, who may find it just holds them up too much. The form factor and appearance of the device is nice, the integrated GPS is a great feature (although i'm disappointed at the performance of Quick GPS), and despite the 200MHz processor i've found performance more than adequate in my usual usage scenarios. If it had a regular dpad, I would probably be raving about it now, and even considering it as my primary device, just because the integrated GPS is a real nice to have. Having said that, the memory usage after a hard reset is also something of a worry too. So, in fact, this isn't really a conclusion at all. It's a 'it'll be a great device for some'... and maybe the best way to end would be to hear the feedback from other people who've tried it, or indeed own it! If YOU are a P3300 owner, i'd be very interested to hear if you agree with my review and my conclusion... feel free to reply below! |
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Mar 19 2007, 11:28
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 1 Joined: 19th March 2007 Member No.: 239,637 Device(s): HTC P3300 "Artemis" |
Hi everyone.
I used to have a Qtek 9100 somwhere a year ago.Now I`ve just bought a brand new HTC P3300 (known as well as"Artemis"). First, I liked the superiour design - this PDA is one of the most beautyful and nice on the market. Moreower , i really enjoy the unique RollR trackball system - it`s awsome.Surely, it is easier (at least if you are not used to RollR trackball or similar)to use a QWERTY keyboard, like in Qtek 9100, but dont forget:this makes any model bulky(except new HTC P3350,wich I`m goint to taste on later ;-) ). One of the minuses is the processor: 200MhZ, but actually it is enough. EDGE works great!Internet just "flies"! WiFi system is also good. Hard to get some maps for TomTom(1 offered for free to download),at least if you`re not in Britain,france or Russia, for example. My conclusion: this device is recommended for those,who`ve already had any modern PDA,especially Qtek.For novices it will be a bit hard to get on with some functions and settings, but actually,if you`re able to read,everything is very simple. So, calling all PDA lovers:you won`t find moe beautyful,qualitative and full of functions PDA for this reasonable price! |
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Apr 3 2007, 09:19
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 1 Joined: 24th February 2007 Member No.: 232,644 Device(s): HTC P3300 |
Great review Paul. But I disagree with you regarding the aesthetic design. I think it looks clean & smart but rather boring. Could easily be mistaken for your run of the mill pda. I used to have a Mio A701 & the antenna hump made it look distinctive but not ugly as you describe above. I liked the design of the A701 so as they say beauty is in the eye of the beholder. Built in wifi & gps are 2 things high up on my list of wants when choosing a device so on the face of it the Artemis would seem to be right for me. But I'm afraid the lowly processor puts an end to its desireability. I use Skype quite a lot & 200mhz just doesn't cut it I'm afraid. Plus it does seem rather expensive compared to the competition. I'm a happy user of the Asus P535 presently so am awaiting patiently for the P535 which should comfortably see of the Artemis. I use Skype on P3300 quite frequently and it works great. As far as your WiFi connection is ok, you'll be able to make calls without problems.... |
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