Paul (P)Reviews the HTC S710 'Vox', HTC S710 'Vox' (P)Review |
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 Apr 1 2007, 16:19
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 Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 112 Joined: 24th June 2005 Member No.: 136,400 Device(s): c600  |
QUOTE(chucky.egg @ Apr 1 2007, 07:41)  The review is fine. It mentions the weight (Not that you can do anything about that anyway) and says that the reviewer doesn't think it's an issue. If you disagree then perhaps this isn't the phone for you, but to say the reviewer is wrong about the issue is highly subjective and clearly not based on experience of this device. I did not say the reviewer is wrong about the issue, I said the review was not very good. If it was Paul's personal thoughts about the Vox then I will retract what I said. But it was called a review and to say I'll ignore those who claim 140g is too heavy (it's not in my experience), is excluding, I would think, many of us who do want a light smartphone. You could use this sentiment for any feature of a mobile being reviewed. For example............I'll ignore those who claim that a 2 mp camera is poor by today’s standards because I don't use a camera. |
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Apr 1 2007, 16:23
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 The Main Man  Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,241 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
Any review is a reviewers personal perspective on a device is it not? I told you the device is 140g and that I didn't think it was too heavy (making quite clear that was my opinion), what else would you expect from a review?
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Apr 1 2007, 17:23
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 7 Joined: 27th January 2006 Member No.: 169,588 Device(s): SPV C500 |
what are the benefits of having 3G? The Htc Wings has 3G but will i be able to use my orange sim on this. (this might be a very stupid question).
The Vox is very impressive and the 140g wouldn't really bother me for a device that is only slightly larger than the c500. i might wait for the Wings though on pdadb.net the spec says that the d pad is 5 way. the review indicates that the dpad can go diagonally so wouldnt this make the dpad 9 way? This post has been edited by tautegu: Apr 1 2007, 17:28 |
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Apr 1 2007, 17:43
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,241 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
3G = faster data and video calling.
The directional pad on the unit I had did diagonals, so yes, 9 way. P -------------------- |
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Apr 1 2007, 23:28
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 112 Joined: 24th June 2005 Member No.: 136,400 Device(s): c600 |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ Apr 1 2007, 17:23) Any review is a reviewers personal perspective on a device is it not? I told you the device is 140g and that I didn't think it was too heavy (making quite clear that was my opinion), what else would you expect from a review? P A treo @178 grams is also not to heavy for some people. But the idea of a smartphone is to have a normal phone that is smart.............either with windows5/6 or symbiam included. Most normal phones (without windows5/6 or symbiam) are now quite light and the smartphones should reflect this. As the c600 etc. has done. Just because some people are happy to carry a 140 gram plus phone should not detract from the 'what constitutes a smartphone' debate. What market is the Vox aimed at? Many members here state that they will wait for the 'Wings', because it is lighter, but not as light as first thought. 120 grams not 110. If they made a not qwerty keypad version at least that would be something. A review should reflect this and if marks were given then some should be deducted from the Vox score because it is not a true smartphone. |
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Apr 2 2007, 02:41
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 51 Joined: 26th February 2007 Member No.: 233,392 |
QUOTE(moonshot @ Apr 1 2007, 23:28) ...it is not a true smartphone. I'm a little confused as to why this point keeps coming up. M$ has two distinct versions of their mobile operating systems, one with touchscreen, one without. The latter was officially named, until WM6, the "smartphone" edition. Another significant difference is the dependence of the smartphone version OS on the two soft keys. This phone has no touchscreen, and runs the smartphone version ("standard" in WM6-speak). That's how I define smartphone. Is there some other, subjective definition out there? Also, when slid closed, it looks like a phone. That is, incidentally, a big selling point. I don't want to be in the club and pull something out that looks like some sort of nerdy device. Anyways, thanks Paul for the review, it's made me even more excited for the arrival of my Vox -- current ETA last week of April. This post has been edited by Dster: Apr 2 2007, 02:43 |
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Apr 2 2007, 09:38
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 Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 499 Joined: 13th January 2005 From: Sunderland Member No.: 105,258 Device(s): SPV C600/E650 |
Nice review.
If the device s keypad locked (which i'm presuming it has) will opening the keyboard unlock it? (you mention it wakes it up, but not anything about unlocking)  Cheers. |
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Apr 2 2007, 09:42
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Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 177 Joined: 30th July 2005 Member No.: 141,775 Device(s): E71, Touch Dual |
Does the Vox have coloured LEDs to indicated missed calls, or messages? One of the annoying things about the C600 is you have to look at the screen to see if you've got any alerts....
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Apr 2 2007, 09:51
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,241 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
QUOTE(moonshot @ Apr 2 2007, 00:28) A treo @178 grams is also not to heavy for some people. But the idea of a smartphone is to have a normal phone that is smart.............either with windows5/6 or symbiam included. Most normal phones (without windows5/6 or symbiam) are now quite light and the smartphones should reflect this. As the c600 etc. has done. Just because some people are happy to carry a 140 gram plus phone should not detract from the 'what constitutes a smartphone' debate. What market is the Vox aimed at? Many members here state that they will wait for the 'Wings', because it is lighter, but not as light as first thought. 120 grams not 110. If they made a not qwerty keypad version at least that would be something. A review should reflect this and if marks were given then some should be deducted from the Vox score because it is not a true smartphone. A Treo is a Pocket PC because, er, it runs Pocket PC OS. If people here are waiting for the wings, I strongly suspect that's due to 3G / GPS etc. rather than being 20g lighter! The Vox IS a true Smartphone, it runs the Smartphone OS! P -------------------- |
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Apr 2 2007, 09:52
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,241 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
QUOTE(Griff_FFOC @ Apr 2 2007, 10:38) Nice review. If the device s keypad locked (which i'm presuming it has) will opening the keyboard unlock it? (you mention it wakes it up, but not anything about unlocking) Cheers. I had to return the device today pending arrival of a full production device, so I can tell you that when I get the new one! P -------------------- |
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Apr 2 2007, 09:53
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,241 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
QUOTE(nuttyphilt @ Apr 2 2007, 10:42) Does the Vox have coloured LEDs to indicated missed calls, or messages? One of the annoying things about the C600 is you have to look at the screen to see if you've got any alerts.... There are 2 notification LEDs, not sure on whether they are used to alert to messages etc., will check when I get my production device. P -------------------- |
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Apr 2 2007, 10:06
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 Addict  Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 572 Joined: 20th February 2003 Member No.: 2,937 Device(s): O2 Graphite, HTC s730 |
I think I'm glad I got an o2 graphite which is 3/4 of the weight, has 3g and a decent camera and no gimmicky keyboard nonsense
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Apr 2 2007, 10:33
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,241 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
Yeah, the Graphite is nice and has good specs, with the exception of the fact the screen isn't a patch on the Vox's, and it's WM5 rather than 6.
My Graphite review is underway  P -------------------- |
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Apr 4 2007, 11:45
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 Regular Group: Posters Posts: 104 Joined: 23rd April 2006 From: Netherlands Member No.: 186,697 Device(s): HTC P4350, HTC S710, Qtek 8310 |
I actually like the "extUSB" port on my P4350 and I think I will like it just as much on the HTC VoX.
Why? Because it's a rocksolid connection and causes no pops and cracks when playing music. I also have a 8310 with the 2.5 audio connection and well...it sucks! whenever I connect my adapter cable and start moving the cable I hear interference in the music currently playing... with the extUSB port this problem has been fixed. I do agree a "industry standard" 3.5 connection would be very very nice to have embedded in the device. Also, Paul, have you tried TCPMP on the VoX? I'm really curious about playing a full screen movie on the VoX and the switch the screen to landscape. This is something I use ALOT with my P4350 and TCPMP can't handle it, so I switched to the newer Coreplayer, but it's much slower. (I did read that the slowness issue will be resolved on the next update tho) -------------------- [GUIDE] Encode HQ Movies For QVGA Devices
iPaq 3640, Qtek 8310, iPaq rx3715, Qtek S200, HTC P4350, HTC S710, HTC 3700 |
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Apr 4 2007, 11:52
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The Main Man |