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QUOTE(Sonicr360 @ Mar 11 2008, 13:33)  Errr.... but I did try one.... and I hated it! And as you said.... £270 for something that lacks 3G and GPS.... hmmmmm think I would have held off and waited for a revised model or the Google Phone which is going to give the iPhone a good run for its money. I have someone here and all I see now as I look over his shoulder is a ton of grease marks on the screen... and LOL as I write this he is just using his shirt to clean it  But each to their own.... I am not sure comments about hacking and making "public" use of tools to hack an iPhone (or any other phone) outside its legal contract is a good comment. People may take a dim view on this matter.  Paul the owner of Modaco or the forum moderator(s) may be able to answer this! I will be amazed if Modaco take a dim view of discussing hacking iphones... I will be even more amazed if the "google phone" gives the iphone a run for tis money. The "google phone" is an OS - not a finished complete project. The android OS will rely heavily upon hardware manufacturers to give the iphone even a glancing blow. -------------------- HTC Diamond
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Mar 11 2008, 15:29
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QUOTE(Metoo @ Mar 11 2008, 13:44) I've just looked on eXpansys for something with 3G and GPS for £270 and failed, so don't see how that makes the iPhone poor value? You can bet that, like WM devices, the 3g iPhone will be much more expensive! The obvious difference is that the networks will do you any number of 3G/GPS phones for peanuts, whereas with the Iphone you have to pay a high up front price and sign up to a steep 18 month contract. My Kaiser cost me £50 on a 12 month, £20pm contract - show me an Iphone deal that beats that. |
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Mar 11 2008, 16:01
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IT may be - but with the 3G connectivity, it may persuade people to move over.
I just feel (personally) that the iPhone is well over hyped. Hell it could be cause the UK get a poorer and slower deal compared to the US. There again, I think the US are bonkers for queueing day after day outside an apple store to get one LOL Whats that all about! To be "im the first in the US to have an iPhone" ? LOL get real 
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Mar 11 2008, 16:15
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QUOTE(Boinng @ Mar 11 2008, 15:29) The obvious difference is that the networks will do you any number of 3G/GPS phones for peanuts, whereas with the Iphone you have to pay a high up front price and sign up to a steep 18 month contract. My Kaiser cost me £50 on a 12 month, £20pm contract - show me an Iphone deal that beats that. Dont forget its an 18 Month 02 contract (legal of course!)
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Mar 11 2008, 16:16
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Nice video of the "so called" Google phone (or if you are JIMBOUK) we will call it Android
Only time will tell just how well it will do ..... of course the US will get it first http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dynzVHt6ocw |
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Mar 11 2008, 17:20
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 358 Joined: 6th February 2003 From: Taunton, Somerset Member No.: 2,662 Device(s): Apple IPhone |
Well my iPhone was free with a 12 month contract
Got an N95, sold it for £200 which was what the iPhone cost me. Now of course, that was the good old days when the yanks would sell them to cash wielding brits! Anyway, you can still pick them up here for £269 and unlock them yourself. |
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Mar 11 2008, 17:26
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QUOTE(Boinng @ Mar 11 2008, 15:29) The obvious difference is that the networks will do you any number of 3G/GPS phones for peanuts, whereas with the Iphone you have to pay a high up front price and sign up to a steep 18 month contract. My Kaiser cost me £50 on a 12 month, £20pm contract - show me an Iphone deal that beats that. OK, here's a possible deal that will beat it.:- Sign up to a Kaiser, N95 or high priced handset contract for 12 months, pay perhaps £50 for the phone (if it's not free) Sell it on eBay for £300 + With the cash buy an iphone, and unlock it for free and use your existing SIM contract You'll still have cash left in your pocket.... So there's little point in still slating the iphone because of the so called "required" expensive 18 month contract, because it's not the only way to get one. Out of the tens (perhaps hundreds) of thousands of iphone owners in the UK out there, I wonder how many of them are actually using it on the official o2 iphone tariff. The O2 iphone tariff is overpriced, I completely agree, but in my opinion the £270 for the actual iphone itself is not. It is, like we've all said and as with any device, down to personal preference and what features you do and don't need on a device. You either love it or hate it, but I can forsee a number of great applications on it's way because it's new, and many software companies want to develop for the iphone, and it's slick interface. This post has been edited by paholman: Mar 11 2008, 17:35 -------------------- |
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Mar 11 2008, 17:58
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paholman,
You will be pleased to hear that I hate it. I mean, I simply cannot see the point of it - but as I have continully said, if your into music/videos on the go, and really need to store 8000 songs on a device, then please blow yourself away and do it But for me personally, after seeing and using my colleague's phone I am not really impressed. He is ... in fact he went to the London Apple store to get one.I called him an idiot for queuing, because I knew full well the "hype" was simply OVER HYPE!! Wait... give it a few more years.... few more decent apps, and then maybe, just maybe the iPhone can compete in all areas that Palm, Nokia and WM aim for. Thats not to say WM/Palm/Nokia is any better, because I am not a big fan of them either! And I do own a Tytn II device, and for my business and work on the go, I cannot ask for much more. Well.... its either that or my laptop. So for convenience, I use the Tytn II. Nuff said on the subject But hey, if your happy .... stay happy and cool  Simon |
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Having used WinMo since the first SPV back in 2002 I have to say that the iPhone can only be a good thing for all of us. The progress that WinMo devices have seen over these 6 years are to be frank worrisome. Maybe it would be forgivable to accept such an unintuitive user interface if it was the first iteration of the software, but with 6 years development time the current user experience is very poor. The iPhone should provide the kick up the rear that Microsoft needed to actually produce a less buggy, more user friendly platform.
And just to illustrate this point, my non technical friend just bought a Touch Dual instead of the iPhone as the later doesn't have push email. After me spending a day with him getting the user interface to something he felt comfortable with (installing 3rd party calender, home screen apps etc) he still has the large learning curve of using a Windows Mobile device. Compare this to the iPhone, where after 5 minutes of playing with it I felt I knew everything about it, in fact being the tinkerer I am, I was bored and handed it back to the owner unimpressed. Having played with a jailbroken iPhone since, I can truly see the possibilities of the platform you get almost all the functionality without the frustration. When I informed my friend of the fact that the iPhone will soon have push email his face clearly dropped, I'm sure when it arrives his Touch Dual will be on ebay. Lets hope Microsoft can close the gap with the release of WinMo 7, and by 2009 Apple doesn't already have an unassailable lead. |
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QUOTE(paholman @ Mar 11 2008, 17:26) The O2 iphone tariff is overpriced, I completely agree, but in my opinion the £270 for the actual iphone itself is not. Like I said, Flex-T/WnW: 450 minutes OR 900 texts - £32.50 O2: 600 minutes AND 500 texts - £35 OK there's no "low user" tarriff, but to somebody who needs that kind of airtime, how is O2 overpriced? |
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QUOTE(Metoo @ Mar 12 2008, 09:54) Like I said, Flex-T/WnW: 450 minutes OR 900 texts - £32.50 O2: 600 minutes AND 500 texts - £35 OK there's no "low user" tarriff, but to somebody who needs that kind of airtime, how is O2 overpriced? I didn't specifically say "O2 was overpriced", just the "O2 iPhone tariff". It's overpriced in the sense of it's a tariff only price, with no free handset. Other networks offer free handsets with similar tariffs, so I think you get better value for money going for one of those, with a decent handset, selling the handset, buying the iphone with the cash, and unlocking it to use that tariff. That way you've not paid the extra money for the Iphone. This post has been edited by paholman: Mar 12 2008, 11:18 -------------------- |
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QUOTE(Mr.Clark @ Mar 7 2008, 13:56) I've been anti iPhone from the beginning, but I did cut down my "essentials" list to 3 things: Full Exchange integration 3G (and having used it, HSDPA) Built-in GPS I gave up on it after I was confidently assured by my new Head of IT a few months ago that Apple would never go to Microsoft and ask for a licence for Exchange. Now my hopes are raised, and if it ever gets HSDPA and GPS, I'll get one, jailbreak it, and use it on my T-Mob contract... Well apparently, someone listened... http://www.apple.com/uk/iphone/ reckons that the new version has all 3 of those... are the days of my Vario III numbered? 
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