HTC prep 'HTC Touch Diamond' for imminent reveal + 'HTC Touch Pro' / 'HTC Touch Dual Pro' details |
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 Apr 25 2008, 16:56
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Newbie  Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 1 Joined: 22nd August 2007 Member No.: 291,830 Device(s): T-Mobile MDA Vario III  |
What does all this mean for the Omni? Is there any news of the Omni? TIA.
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Apr 25 2008, 18:53
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 The Main Man  Group: Admin Team Posts: 18,800 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
The Omni is not dead...
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Apr 25 2008, 19:10
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Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 330 Joined: 25th January 2005 From: London - U.K. Member No.: 106,723 Device(s): MDA Compact 3 |
QUOTE(shootydogthing @ Apr 25 2008, 12:22)  Nah, I'd take the Raphael over the X1 any day, for Manilla/TouchFlo, and the fact that HTC are a more experienced WinMo brand. And I'm almost certain they'll have learned their lesson, there'll be drivers here. I hope you are right about the drivers as (even though the X1 is far superior!) I'll be getting a T-Mob MDA Compact 4 as soon as they come out !QUOTE Enhanced GPS. from Wikipedia : "eGPS delivers a "universal positioning capability that will not only work reliably indoors and in zero GPS signal conditions, but greatly speed time to fix in poor GPS reception areas where most handsets are used." More specifically, it can "exploit data available from the cellular network to speed GPS fixes and provide complementary, fast, and reliable location sensing when GPS signals are weak or unavailable." " Good old Wiki ! So does this mean that eGPS will be an extra feature which the Network will charge for ? If you don't pay then you're left will plain vanilla GPS ?QUOTE And seeing as it's winmo, you can get the benifit of doing things like Powerpoint presentations or websurfing on the bigger screen, or work on documents etc, even watch videos or show pictures. Looks like TV-out is a pretty cool feature after all !-------------------- JAM version 5 is gonna be soooo sweeeet :D ....
All Band & All Data = like the Tytn !! Super Hi Res Screen = in 2008 ? Yup, like the Raphael !! Super Fast CPU = like the Kaiser !! Super Long Life Battery = in 2009 ? Built in GPS Sat Nav = like the TyTn !! Television & Radio Reception = in 2008 ? Yup, like the N96 !! Playstation Emulator = in 2008 ? Yup, like N-Gage !! 5MP Camera with Flash & Zoom = in 2008 ? Yup, like the G800 !! 128GB Storage = in 2010 ? Even Smaller & Lighter = like the Xperia X1 !! Cant wait to keep upgrading :) |
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Apr 25 2008, 19:50
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 308 Joined: 31st August 2007 From: Edinburgh Member No.: 294,928 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
QUOTE(Perfectionist @ Apr 25 2008, 19:10) I hope you are right about the drivers as (even though the X1 is far superior!) I'll be getting a T-Mob MDA Compact 4 as soon as they come out ! Good old Wiki ! So does this mean that eGPS will be an extra feature which the Network will charge for ? If you don't pay then you're left will plain vanilla GPS ? Looks like TV-out is a pretty cool feature after all ! How is the X1 better? It's basically the same, but this comes in various form factors with varying extras... And nope, I think it's just a hardware thing. Glad I could convince you 
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Apr 25 2008, 19:59
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 18,800 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
The X1 is WVGA I guess, which also gives moe space for the keyboard, that's about it tho!
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Apr 25 2008, 20:02
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 Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 212 Joined: 3rd January 2005 From: Cambridge, UK Member No.: 104,315 Device(s): HTC Touch |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ Apr 25 2008, 17:24) Specs are in the first post Ovie ;) P Oh woops my mistake  !Specswise the Diamond is looking a lot better than the Samsung i900. I've decided I don't need a keyboard anymore, after getting used to how light and small my touch is I don't think I could get anything bigger! Can't wait to see some more pics, I expect it's going to be out really soon too! --------------------  |
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Apr 25 2008, 23:38
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 330 Joined: 25th January 2005 From: London - U.K. Member No.: 106,723 Device(s): MDA Compact 3 |
QUOTE(shootydogthing @ Apr 25 2008, 19:50) How is the X1 better? Dude !  3" WVGA Screen with (slight!) Tilt = Excellent improvement over the usual and unimpressive 2.8" 3.5mm = Essential to use quality earphones instead of proprietary nastiness Radio has RDS = Nice feature to have 1500 mAh Battery = Extremely important !! Plus ..... Sony are using good Drivers = HTC's downfall in the past ..... Sony have a great reputation with Camera quality = HTC's Achilles heal ..... I'm a HTC fan and will jump on the new models as soon as they come out ..... but the X1 is without doubt the better device !!  Seeing as HTC are making the thing for Sony ..... why couldn't they make the Rapheal have at least the same (if not better!) spec ?!All the X1 needs to do is mate with the Nokia N96 and we'll have the Perfect device !!  Or just wait for the X2/X3 !! The only potential problems with the SEX1 will be possible delays in release and more than likely expense !! 
-------------------- JAM version 5 is gonna be soooo sweeeet :D ....
All Band & All Data = like the Tytn !! Super Hi Res Screen = in 2008 ? Yup, like the Raphael !! Super Fast CPU = like the Kaiser !! Super Long Life Battery = in 2009 ? Built in GPS Sat Nav = like the TyTn !! Television & Radio Reception = in 2008 ? Yup, like the N96 !! Playstation Emulator = in 2008 ? Yup, like N-Gage !! 5MP Camera with Flash & Zoom = in 2008 ? Yup, like the G800 !! 128GB Storage = in 2010 ? Even Smaller & Lighter = like the Xperia X1 !! Cant wait to keep upgrading :) |
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Apr 26 2008, 07:58
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 18,800 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
QUOTE Sony are using good Drivers = HTC's downfall in the past ..... Says who? HTC are making the device, so if it's the same platform, i'm willing to bet it's the same drivers! QUOTE Sony have a great reputation with Camera quality = HTC's Achilles heal ..... See point above, I bet the camera will be the same as on these... P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Read my Blog or get your own on MoDaCo! Free 2.25GB online backup from Mozy... Click here for details! MACHEIST IS BACK! Click Here to check out the uber-bundle of apps for you Mac! Check out MUPromo bundle too :D |
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Apr 26 2008, 07:58
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 18,800 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
Radio on Diamond has RDS I believe.
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Apr 26 2008, 13:38
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 330 Joined: 25th January 2005 From: London - U.K. Member No.: 106,723 Device(s): MDA Compact 3 |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ Apr 26 2008, 07:58) Says who? HTC are making the device, so if it's the same platform, i'm willing to bet it's the same drivers! Quite true ! Although the reviews of the X1 are saying it is the dogs !! Hopefully Sony has overseen this aspect and made sure HTC doesn't screw it up !  QUOTE See point above, I bet the camera will be the same as on these... Again quite true ! I read something about Sony wanting to put a 5MP in there ..... but HTC downgraded it to a 3MP !! As above, I'm pretty confident that Sony would make sure HTC imporve this feature above their lacklustre offerings in the past ! Anyway, back to the Diamond/Raphael ! Would you be able to hazard a guess as to possible prices of the new MDA Compact 4 ? ;) The Compact 3 is dirt cheap now on contract ..... would the Compact 4 simply replace it at the same price point ? I take it that the Raphael will be the new Vario 4 ?? ;) -------------------- JAM version 5 is gonna be soooo sweeeet :D ....
All Band & All Data = like the Tytn !! Super Hi Res Screen = in 2008 ? Yup, like the Raphael !! Super Fast CPU = like the Kaiser !! Super Long Life Battery = in 2009 ? Built in GPS Sat Nav = like the TyTn !! Television & Radio Reception = in 2008 ? Yup, like the N96 !! Playstation Emulator = in 2008 ? Yup, like N-Gage !! 5MP Camera with Flash & Zoom = in 2008 ? Yup, like the G800 !! 128GB Storage = in 2010 ? Even Smaller & Lighter = like the Xperia X1 !! Cant wait to keep upgrading :) |
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Apr 26 2008, 13:52
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 5 Joined: 30th July 2007 Member No.: 283,310 Device(s): HTC p4350 |
What I'm actually most interested in is the hardware controls.
It doesn't seem like there are too many buttons on the new devices, and I personally went for the TyTN II because of the scrollwheel. If the Raphael doesn't have a scrollwheel, I'll be sorely disappointed. It already seems like softkeys are going to be on-screen rather than hardware buttons, which I'm not overly fond of either. |
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Apr 26 2008, 17:11
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 10 Joined: 9th February 2006 Member No.: 171,857 Device(s): Loox 720 |
Apologies about doubting the motion sensor info. Some-one in the know has confirmed that the Diamond/Raphael does have an accelerometer, and that this works very well for changing screen orientation.
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Apr 26 2008, 19:22
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 212 Joined: 3rd January 2005 From: Cambridge, UK Member No.: 104,315 Device(s): HTC Touch |
Is there any information on the Touch Dual Pro's dimensions and whether it has WiFi or not this time round?
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Apr 26 2008, 19:25
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Addict  Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 661 Joined: 19th November 2003 From: London - UK Member No.: 21,445 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
QUOTE(surur @ Apr 26 2008, 18:11) Apologies about doubting the motion sensor info. Some-one in the know has confirmed that the Diamond/Raphael does have an accelerometer, and that this works very well for changing screen orientation. Surur If that is the case, could it not be used to make the GPS "dead-reckoning", though I suppose that would also require an electronic compass. |
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Apr 26 2008, 22:15
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 308 Joined: 31st August 2007 From: Edinburgh Member No.: 294,928 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
yeah, you'd need a compass.
As to the X1... HTC will be bringing their experience from the X1 to these devices, and they'll end up with a superior device Accelerometer. Multiple form factors. eGPS rather than aGPS. And Manilla on all of them, as well as HTC's other bits of software. I'd take that over the X1 any day. |
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Apr 26 2008, 23:09
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 42 Joined: 15th May 2004 Member No.: 43,372 |
looks like we have another dud smart pda phone with the X1
as you will see from the video, the X1 is desperately crying for some dedicated video acceleration. Looks like HTC have messed things up for Sony Ericcson. http://www.theunwired.net/?item=videoview-...-6-1-smartphone hopefully i'm wrong and it will be better once its released commercially. |
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Apr 27 2008, 00:06
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 330 Joined: 25th January 2005 From: London - U.K. Member No.: 106,723 Device(s): MDA Compact 3 |
Most probably just prototype teething troubles ..... if not, then I wouldn't expect the HTC models to be any better ..... if they have messed up drivers again, I'm gonna burn the HTC factory down ..... actually nah, I'll just get an N96 I guess !!
-------------------- JAM version 5 is gonna be soooo sweeeet :D ....
All Band & All Data = like the Tytn !! Super Hi Res Screen = in 2008 ? Yup, like the Raphael !! Super Fast CPU = like the Kaiser !! Super Long Life Battery = in 2009 ? Built in GPS Sat Nav = like the TyTn !! Television & Radio Reception = in 2008 ? Yup, like the N96 !! Playstation Emulator = in 2008 ? Yup, like N-Gage !! 5MP Camera with Flash & Zoom = in 2008 ? Yup, like the G800 !! 128GB Storage = in 2010 ? Even Smaller & Lighter = like the Xperia X1 !! Cant wait to keep upgrading :) |
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Apr 27 2008, 08:51
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Addict Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 661 Joined: 19th November 2003 From: London - UK Member No.: 21,445 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
Christ....there are lot of assumptions and speculation flying around regarding X1 vs New HTC Devices.
Fact is none of them are out yet. I think we can all agree that all the new devices including the X1 "look" fantastic. We all "hope" that HTC has learnt learnt from past mistakes with regards to drivers etc. Hopefully May 6th will bring more answers. I'm betting on a Q3-4 launch for these devices, I think this was the sort of time frame that we saw the Kaiser released. Not sure when the Touch/Touch Dual landed. |
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Apr 27 2008, 09:50
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 308 Joined: 31st August 2007 From: Edinburgh Member No.: 294,928 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
agreed. this is speculation. but I am hoping SO much that HTC have learned from their mistake with the Kaiser.
If these are released Q3... hmm. my contract runs out in about 14 months. so if kaiser = last summer, these = this sumer... then their sucessors will probably be next summer, I can just keep my contract going and upgrade when their sucessors come to t-mobile. Oh, i've had a flash of inspiration! remember how the Compact IV had home and back keys? I bet these are the same, and that home and back keys are what MANILLA uses! it would explain the odd settup. and i'd also guess that if you disable Mailla (if that's possibe) they'll work as Start and Ok keys. |
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Apr 28 2008, 16:22
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 2 Joined: 12th July 2007 Member No.: 276,943 Device(s): HTC Mogul (Sprint PPC-6800) |
Hey Paul the leaked spec sheet photo for the Raphael shows it based on the 7500a (not 7200a) chipset with an agps (not egps). Is it possible the CDMA/Sprint versions will use a different chipset? I think the 7200a is GSM only while the 7500a can do CDMA (EVDO Rev A) and tri-band GSM.
Info for 7500a here:MSM7500a Info (HTC CDMA Touch / Titan uses MSM7500) http://www.scribd.com/doc/2605778/MSM7500A |
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