The 'HTC 6th May Product Launch' coverage post (now with official specs) |
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 The Main Man  Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,495 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage  |
QUOTE(nurotic @ May 6 2008, 17:28)  Has the screen responsiveness and sensitivity been increased to match that which we get in the Iphone, or does it still feel like any ordinary windows mobile "resistive touchscreen"? MUCH improved... Feels like a normal screen. P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 6 2008, 22:36
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,495 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
QUOTE(finisterre @ May 6 2008, 17:30) Can you turn of the fancy dan interface and just have the default WM6 home screen if you wish? Yes... P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 7 2008, 03:43
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 6 Joined: 5th March 2006 Member No.: 175,919 |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ May 6 2008, 15:17) - The screen is NOT capacitive due to acceptable user experience for handwriting recognition essential in asian markets There are a few capacitive touch screens that can be used with finger or normal stylus. HTC should have gone with one of those screens, capacitive screen for better finger user experience and still stylus for asian markets. Best of both worlds and it would have made the Diamond the true iPhone Killer. Can't comment on the screen, I'm happy they put a glass on it and I've read it's more sensitive so I'm hoping it won't be frustrating to use with fingers but the other advantage with capacitive screens at least the one on the iPhone. I can view the iPhone screen at arms length when it's facing direct sunlight, my HTC P3600 is barely readable even with my hand providing some shade in direct sunlight. They really shot have gone with a capacitive touch screen. |
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May 7 2008, 04:00
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 Blackjack'd Group: Moderator Team Posts: 4,184 Joined: 18th April 2003 From: Mt Laurel, NJ USA Member No.: 4,796 Device(s): Motorola Q9h/iPhone |
Missed the live coverage due to schedule....but read back and watched the vids/pics.
BEAUTIFUL device and VERY tempting. Smaller than I thought. Looks like the perfect PPC size for me. No keyboard necessary. The only thing I'm disappointed in is the fact that the UI, like the Touch, is limited to TouchFlo apps for the most part. Really want the experience to continue thru the rest of the on board apps. At least the rotation of screen orientation when the device is held sideways. Almost seems like an oversight. Or did I not read through enough? May have to wait for 7.0 for the full experience....but this is very very very close to where I want it to be! (which is the best parts of the iPhone mixed with the best of WM!) -------------------- Nick Cornaglia blog | photos | twitter | location | geocaching | xbox |
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May 7 2008, 05:57
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 Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 20 Joined: 27th May 2007 From: Penang, Malaysia Member No.: 260,533 |
wow, beautiful device...only bummer is the lack of a storage card and perhaps the tri-band gsm and dual-band 3g...otherwise..its simply amazing...i wonder how the iphone 3g will be...anyway, its coming out around the same time - june.
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May 7 2008, 06:32
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,495 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
Arne at theunwired has some shots of the O2 uglified version...
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=photoview-...onal-smartphone P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 7 2008, 06:38
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 2nd October 2007 Member No.: 306,449 Device(s): HTC S710 |
Aren't the buttons to big ?
When you see vids and pics, it seems like the screen is smal, because the buttons are large... I'll wait for the Pro, I really need the keyboard. As network administrator, I do almost everything (adding users, exchange, accessrights, remote control,...) from my phone (now the S710 !!) when I am away from the keyboard. |
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May 7 2008, 07:53
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 Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 317 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: UK Member No.: 44 |
I cant listen to the sound on the vid as I am at work. It looks like the messaging apps don't rotate - is this the case? Also was ti possible to pop up the qwerty side on in the messaging apps? was there enough screen real estate to make this usable. Looks like you still have to click the fiddly 'X' to close a message and go to the next one
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May 7 2008, 08:55
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 409 Joined: 18th August 2004 Member No.: 53,335 |
I'm not one to be swayed by fancy graphics alone, and from watching the video, the actual usability seemed poor. Lots of repeated stabbing at the tiny Start and X buttons, delays before menus open, and the response overall seems laggy, with some frustrating delays and too many ambiguous and inconsistent taps and strokes needed to do apparently simple tasks (like get back to the home screen).
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May 7 2008, 09:02
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Enthusiast  Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 254 Joined: 19th August 2004 Member No.: 53,347 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
Unfortunately without any synergy in the Windows Mobile OS itself HTC just adding applications and trying to re-org the OS itself isn't helping. Microsoft need to take a serious look at Windows Mobile and get up to speed with the core of the OS so that you can navigate to any area and it functions the same (in terms of UI and interaction) as any other. Don't get me wrong I like Windows Mobile but the UI and OS is lacking and needs a major refresh. Still no multi touch either, come on MS! Jeeze
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May 7 2008, 09:07
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,495 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
IMHO multitouch is overrated...
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 7 2008, 09:22
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 409 Joined: 18th August 2004 Member No.: 53,335 |
QUOTE(creamhackered @ May 7 2008, 10:02) Unfortunately without any synergy in the Windows Mobile OS itself HTC just adding applications and trying to re-org the OS itself isn't helping. Microsoft need to take a serious look at Windows Mobile and get up to speed with the core of the OS so that you can navigate to any area and it functions the same (in terms of UI and interaction) as any other. Don't get me wrong I like Windows Mobile but the UI and OS is lacking and needs a major refresh. Still no multi touch either, come on MS! Jeeze Exactly, and you can bet the X1 which everyone is lusting after at the moment will be just the same (or probably worse, seeing that SE are doing the software). The sooner HTC move away from WM as the core OS the better. MS have had years to get PPC/WM right and they still haven't a clue how to design a UI. 2008 and the only major feature they can offer with 6.1 is "zoom" in IE? Paleeeeze... Come on Google, where are you.... This post has been edited by Metoo: May 7 2008, 09:23 |
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May 7 2008, 09:30
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Enthusiast Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 254 Joined: 19th August 2004 Member No.: 53,347 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ May 7 2008, 09:07) IMHO multitouch is overrated... P Why? The games aspect makes it worth it alone. I am glad they have started using an accelerometer as that's a great idea too, who wants to press something to move the screen around. They're getting there and hopefully with a push from MS it will make Windows Mobile even better -------------------- |
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May 7 2008, 10:31
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,495 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
USB 2.0 confirmed for mass storage transfer...
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 7 2008, 10:41
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Addict  Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 739 Joined: 19th November 2003 From: London - UK Member No.: 21,445 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ May 7 2008, 10:07) IMHO multitouch is overrated... P Yeah, I agree. Wow! You can zoom in and out! Amazing. Though, as stated above, using it for gaming purposes (ie being able to display a control pad on screen and use many buttons at once) is very nifty. It's a bit to embryonic at the moment. As the applications and technology gets better then I think it will have a lot more to offer. Currently, its more of a gimmick. |
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May 7 2008, 10:44
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,495 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
If it's zooming you care about, the zoom function on the dpad of the diamond performs the same thing.
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 7 2008, 11:17
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Enthusiast Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 254 Joined: 19th August 2004 Member No.: 53,347 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ May 7 2008, 10:44) If it's zooming you care about, the zoom function on the dpad of the diamond performs the same thing. P Yeah and that's fine for pictures but the dpad won't cater for games. The spore iPhone demo is a good example of how multi touch will be great for gaming alongside an accelerometer - I think they definitely need to build multi touch into Windows Mobile. -------------------- |
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May 7 2008, 12:40
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 Bsc. E.E. Group: Moderator Team Posts: 527 Joined: 21st April 2003 From: Vesterbro, Danmark Member No.: 4,893 Device(s): C500 with WM6.1 |
Look at Touch Diamond @ Expansys.
Handset Only Price: £434.95 (370.17 exc.) Discounts available for orders of 5 units or more - call +44 (0)161 868 0868 Availability: Due Thursday 19th June -------------------- Having smoking areas in restaurants, is like having peeing areas in swimminpools..
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May 7 2008, 12:53
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,495 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
MoDaCo Group Buy? :-D
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 7 2008, 12:57
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 Staff Team Leader Group: Admin Team Posts: 17,023 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 53 Device(s): C550 and JasJar |
The O2 version has definately ruined the styling of the device.
Group buy would be interesting. -------------------- 3 mobile where the words "customer" and "service" only exists in the dictionary
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