Midlets that DO work with the MiTAC Java Runtime! |
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 Aug 10 2003, 12:00
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 61 Joined: 16th March 2003 Member No.: 3,528 Device(s): C500  |
QUOTE QUOTE QUOTE Well I didn't download the Java.zip - I downloaded the APCD-v20.zip ... Which can be found here!  Well that site has been down for me .. for the better part of two days! I mentioned APCD-v20.zip cause it was also in the directory found here: ( http://cordo.free.fr/spf/Mitac/ ) - should probably have made that a lil more clear :oops: Oh well... Java.zip is all that is needed. The two CAB files should be placed in IPSM/Windows/Start Menu and then use your phone to run the files (they should appear in your Programs menu list). |
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Aug 10 2003, 12:10
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 |GoT PLuS??|  Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,889 Joined: 1st April 2003 From: Denmark Member No.: 4,163 Device(s): SPV C500 |
QUOTE Java.zip is all that is needed. The two CAB files should be placed in IPSM/Windows/Start Menu and then use your phone to run the files (they should appear in your Programs menu list). If you read like 5 posts or so up .. you'll understand why I suggested the entire zipfile .. and not the two cabs. Wouldn't be right to suggest something I haven't tested - when other people hollar about their phones breaking.. Interesting to know if the JavaWM and the midpng_SmartPhone.cab are one and the same cab. *shrug* -------------------- <CENTER>[img]http://mobimobi.textamerica.com/recent.aspx[/img] <img src='http://celltrack.spv-developers.com/render/msn/MoRFLeZ.png'>
</CENTER> Primary: | QTeK 8310 | TDC FoRCe oNe | DeCeRTiFieD | SiM-uNLoCKeD | RoM 5.1.70.14406 | 1024mb MiNi SD CaRD | Secondary: | N70 | QTeK 8100 | uNoTeL / TeLMoRe |
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Aug 10 2003, 15:29
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 61 Joined: 16th March 2003 Member No.: 3,528 Device(s): C500 |
QUOTE QUOTE Java.zip is all that is needed. The two CAB files should be placed in IPSM/Windows/Start Menu and then use your phone to run the files (they should appear in your Programs menu list). If you read like 5 posts or so up .. you'll understand why I suggested the entire zipfile .. and not the two cabs. Wouldn't be right to suggest something I haven't tested - when other people hollar about their phones breaking.. Interesting to know if the JavaWM and the midpng_SmartPhone.cab are one and the same cab. *shrug* I think the people who had the problem were downloading the full 6MB zip file, and running set-up.exe. This causes their phone to run in Chinese and maybe freeze! Java.zip has only the files needed to run java - not the setup.exe file. The file is a lot smaller to download and will not cause the potential problems of the full zip file. |
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Aug 10 2003, 21:47
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 Addict  Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 536 Joined: 20th February 2003 Member No.: 2,937 Device(s): O2 Graphite, HTC s730 |
ahhh DopeWars that lovely family fun trading game
http://www.jams.it/index.php?action=list_a...cazioni&catid=1 looeee |
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Aug 11 2003, 16:19
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 Vario fanatic! Group: Posters Posts: 1,005 Joined: 11th January 2003 From: Leeds Member No.: 1,806 Device(s): MDA Vario II |
my advise is to run the setup without phone on cradle. the programs ie metalstrike get saved in my programs under mitac the all you do is download the cab. next time you put phone on cradle click no to cancel install
-------------------- Pre phones:3210-3310-sl45i-m50-mt50-spv-T-mobile Sda - C550 - Nokia N70 - MDA Vario
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Aug 11 2003, 18:39
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 40 Joined: 8th August 2003 Member No.: 12,419 |
ok, so if i run/install those cab files, the SPV would be able to handle java?
Am very interested, especially in the irc applet
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Aug 11 2003, 19:17
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QUOTE Might note that JavaMan doesn't like the java app names longer than 9 letters. It'll give an error "alert: Cannot access j9midpng. Make sure the file is not in use or try opening it from within an application". Is there a way round this? Would renaming the java apps work? Whats the purpose of the 2 cabs that we have to install - I can see that 2 new apps are now on the phone but why are 2 needed, how do they differ from each other? Can't get anything to work right now, nothing locked up or hard reset either...nada! -------------------- FrankyG
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Aug 12 2003, 05:11
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 Addict Group: Posters Posts: 837 Joined: 25th November 2002 From: Denmark Member No.: 74 |
QUOTE QUOTE Might note that JavaMan doesn't like the java app names longer than 9 letters. It'll give an error "alert: Cannot access j9midpng. Make sure the file is not in use or try opening it from within an application". Is there a way round this? Would renaming the java apps work? Whats the purpose of the 2 cabs that we have to install - I can see that 2 new apps are now on the phone but why are 2 needed, how do they differ from each other? Can't get anything to work right now, nothing locked up or Hard Reset either...nada! The big one is the java runtime, and the other one is just a launcher. -------------------- My cat's breath smells like cat food
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Aug 12 2003, 07:50
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|GoT PLuS??| Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,889 Joined: 1st April 2003 From: Denmark Member No.: 4,163 Device(s): SPV C500 |
QUOTE Is there a way round this? Would renaming the java apps work? Yes - renaming them would work... -------------------- <CENTER>[img]http://mobimobi.textamerica.com/recent.aspx[/img] <img src='http://celltrack.spv-developers.com/render/msn/MoRFLeZ.png'>
</CENTER> Primary: | QTeK 8310 | TDC FoRCe oNe | DeCeRTiFieD | SiM-uNLoCKeD | RoM 5.1.70.14406 | 1024mb MiNi SD CaRD | Secondary: | N70 | QTeK 8100 | uNoTeL / TeLMoRe |
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Aug 12 2003, 12:22
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 Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 45 Joined: 27th February 2003 From: Carlisle UK Member No.: 3,131 |
Anyway, back to the topic . . .
I've got the following working on my SPV all downloaded from the sites mentioned in this thread. UK Lottery results TennisS60 (for Nokia's) Spruce Tennis sp8ball (magic 8ball) Spruce Alarm Clock (with analogue clock) SpruceStopwatch Notepad (Office.jar) Genie Advisor EmailViewer (reqwireless.com) http://www.midlet.org http://www.innograte.com http://www.mobiled.net/download.html http://www.spruce.jp/freemidlets/ http://www.jams.it/ Cool! 8) Anyone found any more decent midlet sites :?: |
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Aug 13 2003, 14:28
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 Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 309 Joined: 17th December 2002 From: London Member No.: 1,174 Device(s): C500 |
QUOTE my advise is to run the setup without phone on cradle. the programs ie metalstrike get saved in my programs under mitac the all you do is download the cab. next time you put phone on cradle click no to cancel install :lol: Good move. I got the following: CStar.CAB CStar.ini game.CAB game.ini game2.CAB game2.ini MIDI.CAB MIDI.ini PhoneBackup.CAB PhoneBackup.ini PhoneExplorer.CAB PhoneExplorer.ini PhoneReader.CAB PhoneReader.ini Taskmgn.CAB Taskmgn.ini UrlPlugin.CAB UrlPlugin.ini MoRFLeZ, or indeed anyone, have you managed to successfully install all of these CAB files without hanging your phone? Cheers, -------------------- Matt Whitfield
WapTV Development UK |
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Aug 13 2003, 14:39
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just some guy, you know... Group: Posters Posts: 1,626 Joined: 29th November 2002 From: London, New Zealand Member No.: 271 Device(s): HTC Diamond |
I'm currently working through testing all these cabs and will post a full list of what they are and whether they wreck your phone.
Just as a preliminary thing tho. DO NOT INSTALL CSTAR. After installing CStar, the next time you reboot the phone will almost finish booting and then reboot again and get stuck in this loop. As in you will have to hard reset the phone. If you've already installed it but not rebooted yet you may be able to uninstall it and save yourself some grief -------------------- Like a monkey ready to be shot off into space. Spacemonkey. Ready to sacrifice himself for the greater good.
owned: SPV, E200, C500, C600, Wizard, Hermes smartphone software by me : http://www.surrealservices.co.uk |
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Aug 13 2003, 14:46
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|GoT PLuS??| Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,889 Joined: 1st April 2003 From: Denmark Member No.: 4,163 Device(s): SPV C500 |
Like Spacemonkey said .. stay clear of the cstar cab.
I have installed all of the other cabs, and haven't had any problems yet. I've rebooted my phone quite a few times .. and it's been a few days. So I would imagine that they are okay. Still .. if you haven't backed anything up, and if you don't want to do a hard reset. Don't install anything. I don't see much use of most of the cabfiles - except PhoneBackup which I find VERY useful!! -------------------- <CENTER>[img]http://mobimobi.textamerica.com/recent.aspx[/img] <img src='http://celltrack.spv-developers.com/render/msn/MoRFLeZ.png'>
</CENTER> Primary: | QTeK 8310 | TDC FoRCe oNe | DeCeRTiFieD | SiM-uNLoCKeD | RoM 5.1.70.14406 | 1024mb MiNi SD CaRD | Secondary: | N70 | QTeK 8100 | uNoTeL / TeLMoRe |
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Aug 13 2003, 15:00
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 309 Joined: 17th December 2002 From: London Member No.: 1,174 Device(s): C500 |
MoRFLeZ, did you have any trouble installing JavaMan.cab and JavaWM.cab on their own?
Am I safe to give those a go or might I be risking a hard reset? Cheers, -------------------- Matt Whitfield
WapTV Development UK |
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Aug 13 2003, 15:26
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just some guy, you know... Group: Posters Posts: 1,626 Joined: 29th November 2002 From: London, New Zealand Member No.: 271 Device(s): HTC Diamond |
OK, the conclusion... these are all as tested as I can test them...
URLPlugin.cab - adds a homescreen, UrlPlugin.dll and setLang.exe to /IPSM/Application Data/Home. Nothing useful or exciting... if the plugin takes some settings it might be useful to homescreen builders. Taskmgn.cab - a very limited task manager. It shows a list of apps running and a total memory allowing killing of apps. Doesn't show processes or any more detail PhoneReader.cab - this looks like a text file reader. Didn't have any appropriate files but I get the impression they need to be open text files, NOT ebook or doc or pdf or anything PhoneExplorer - a file explorer utility. Smart Explorer is much better but this seems OK. PhoneBackup - Don't know much about this yet but it's talking about backups, presumably to SD Card? Not sure whether it's full IPSM or just data or what... will try it more tonight. MIDI.cab - put's 10 midi files into /IPSM/Application Data or /Storage Card/Application Data. I think that's all it does. game.cab and game2.cab - Metalstrike. A sort of walking along, above view shooting game, like commando or something. game2.cab is an additional level I think. CStar.cab - DO NOT INSTALL. I think this is something todo with enabling chinese characters as I noticed a number of text fields affected. However after installing CStar on SPV the phone will die on the next reboot and require a hard reset. JavaMan and Midpng_smartphone.cab will install the java virtual machine. Then you must create a directory /IPSM/Temp and put your .jar and .jad files in it. Java runs fine, but some apps run pretty slow, additionally some apps that access the network need a setting change as mentioned by Terwin: QUOTE Just figured out how to make a few midlets work that didn't before. midlets that need to connect to the internet didn't have security permissions to do so, so they weren't working. I've just successfully used an irc midlet called Virca and a telnet app called mutelnet with the changed security settings. Code: Here is what I changed to make the apps work: CODE 1) Drag IPSMProgram FilesMIDPNGlibsecurity.policy to the desktop.
2) Open it in a text editor like notepad or wordpad. 3) add the line "allow: javax.microedition.io.Connector.socket" under the "domain: untrusted" entries. 4) Save the file and replace the one on your phone with the new file. This allowed me to use a bunch of midlets that wouldn't work before. That's it... -------------------- Like a monkey ready to be shot off into space. Spacemonkey. Ready to sacrifice himself for the greater good.
owned: SPV, E200, C500, C600, Wizard, Hermes smartphone software by me : http://www.surrealservices.co.uk |
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Aug 13 2003, 15:54
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 Hardcore Group: Members Posts: 1,923 Joined: 28th March 2003 From: Philippines Member No.: 3,998 |
PhoneBackup - installed it but I cant understand how it works...the right softkey gives you a choice of 1.Storage Card and 2.Flash Rom
What does it mean? If I choose for example Storage Card...will it save my IPSM to the Storage Card? That could be logical. BUT if I choose Flash Rom.....will it save my IPSM to the Flash Rom? But how can I restore my IPSM from Flash Rom after a Hard Reset? |
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Aug 13 2003, 16:04
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 607 Joined: 21st February 2003 From: london Member No.: 2,963 |
People, you are aware that there's a mitac manual with the software, or at least was yesterday?!
Read thru, nothing exciting. PhoneBackup only backs up data, ie contacts, tasks, voice notes, avantago channels(!) etc to local storage. Phonereader is relatively useful, best free reader we've got (no cleartype!), text must be saved in unicode (since ascii doesn't support chinese char code set), but just load docs into notepad, then save as unicode (in xp). save in my docs Spacemonkey: can you figure out where to save text files to read from SD card? the manual is vague... just says, "on the sd card", but not automatically found AFAIK... I had no probs with Cstar, but ignored anyway. PhoneCity is a lovely app IMHO, but not on that list... may require some resediting to make it less garish tho! spacemonkey/midnight? BTW spacemonkey, long time no see. did you see my post in development forum about the other ARM handheld... thought that some of the code might be portable to SP2002... you're the man if anyone is! dinoalbert: you could only recover your phone data (NOT IPSM - this is only backed up thru Bootloader) if you've got the phonebackup installed on sd card, with an autoloading cab file or something. Then, if there's a hardreset - put in your sd card. Assuming that you're using a rom that software unlocked (ie non uk 1.5) then you'll have no certificate probs, phonebackup will load up, and you can restore instantly. V -------------------- |
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Aug 13 2003, 16:13
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|GoT PLuS??| Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,889 Joined: 1st April 2003 From: Denmark Member No.: 4,163 Device(s): SPV C500 |
QUOTE PhoneBackup - installed it but I cant understand how it works...the right softkey gives you a choice of 1.Storage Card and 2.Flash Rom ... It might just be me who thinks its extremely useful! But I just can't get enough of backups *hehe* What it does: First select if you want to Backup or Restore Then press next Say ok Tick the things you want to backup 1) Contacts 2) Calendar 3) Task 4) Channels 5) Notes 6) Voice Notes Click Next It tells ya how large the backup with be Click Backup It writes a backup to your SD Card or your IPSM (whatever you want) That file you can save on your PC as well as on your SD Card. So it's handy after a hard reset or whatnot... Personally I've had some mishaps with Outlook *sniff* - so I find a second backup really nice. -------------------- <CENTER>[img]http://mobimobi.textamerica.com/recent.aspx[/img] <img src='http://celltrack.spv-developers.com/render/msn/MoRFLeZ.png'>
</CENTER> Primary: | QTeK 8310 | TDC FoRCe oNe | DeCeRTiFieD | SiM-uNLoCKeD | RoM 5.1.70.14406 | 1024mb MiNi SD CaRD | Secondary: | N70 | QTeK 8100 | uNoTeL / TeLMoRe |
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Aug 13 2003, 17:02
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 607 Joined: 21st February 2003 From: london Member No.: 2,963 |
phone reader phone reader phone reader.
Someone figure out where to put files on sd! most of the other apps are fairly niche.. but try em all out, nice to have some "fresh blood" to play with! can't wait to bootleg Smartphone 2003 :wink: V -------------------- |
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Aug 13 2003, 20:08
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 34 Joined: 2nd December 2002 Member No.: 502 |
QUOTE "]The EmailViewer from reqwireless (reqwireless.com), DOES work :-)
P what settings did you use to get this running - I keep getting an html error when connecting via GPRS. It works fine when I use the pass through installing java didnt kill my phone either
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