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El Boyo
post Jul 18 2008, 15:25
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Hey

I'm going in 17 in October and looking for a car. I've had rough estimates on a corsa 1.0l at about £700 for the car and an extra £1300 for insurance. I know you can get the classic Range Rover for the same price as about the Corsa, but does anybody have any rough guesses on the price of insurance I'd pay?

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post Jul 18 2008, 15:34
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QUOTE(El Boyo @ Jul 18 2008, 16:25) *
Hey

I'm going in 17 in October and looking for a car. I've had rough estimates on a corsa 1.0l at about £700 for the car and an extra £1300 for insurance. I know you can get the classic Range Rover for the same price as about the Corsa, but does anybody have any rough guesses on the price of insurance I'd pay?

Alex


Classic I hope means pre 2001 and I hope isn't a 3.9l vogue. Because you'd need a very large sum of money coming your way soon if it is.
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post Jul 18 2008, 16:03
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Why don't you just check on the web?
It'll probably be almost as much as you will need for running costs....


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post Jul 18 2008, 16:33
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it would b a 80s or early 90s
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post Jul 18 2008, 17:42
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So that would cost you £400 a year in road tax then...



And at 15 miles to the gallon, you would also enjoy spending time watching the £'s and pence counter at the petrol station.


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post Jul 18 2008, 17:59
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So that would cost you £400 a year in road tax then...


Because it's pre-2001 it would be £180(ish) a year. But the millage would hurt your wallet. I know a guy with a fairly good income that sold his because it was uneconomical (granted it was his second income). It was very close to top of the range when it was new and he only for £950 for it.

Big cars are cheap to buy now but not to run. It really hurts to say this, but you're better off with a corsa.

(P.S - I drive a 98 Celica that I've had for 3 months, I'll get 30MPG around town and 40 on a good trip and recently I've thought about selling it, I just love it too much)
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post Jul 18 2008, 18:54
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buy a corsa, wait till i become a millionaire then buy a range rover lol!!
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post Jul 25 2008, 11:34
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Yeah, I drive a Land Rover Freelander V6. The car tax is painful and so is the petrol, but I love my car very much and I don't want to change it, so I'll put up with the expense. I wouldn't recommend one to someone choosing a new car now though, and the fuel consumption is much better than you'd get on an old Range Rover.

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post Jul 25 2008, 11:47
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QUOTE(~Rob @ Jul 18 2008, 18:59) *
Because it's pre-2001 it would be £180(ish) a year. But the millage would hurt your wallet. I know a guy with a fairly good income that sold his because it was uneconomical (granted it was his second income). It was very close to top of the range when it was new and he only for £950 for it.


What about an LPG conversion?

I had a couple LPG cars around 2001 - they were great, factory fitted kits too. LPG at the time was 30p/litre and petrol about 70p.

The government used to pay towards conversion costs under the powershift programme though this stopped ages ago.

Loads of places sell LPG now. My car's got a Turo so can't be converted :-(

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A mate had a 7 series bwm which he had gas converted, and cost him less than a Corsa to run (in terms of fuel price per mile). However the cost to convert is about £1000 to £1500 quid, and the price of LPG is only being held where it is until sometime next year ... so Id be wary of paying for a conversion if you don't know you will get the money back. That said, id be very tempted to buy a car that's already been done!


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QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Jul 25 2008, 13:21) *
That said, id be very tempted to buy a car that's already been done!


That gives me an idea. As it's your first car, what about a Mk4 Ashtray.. I mean Astra that was LPG from the factory. However, I doubt there's many for sale at the moment unless something is majorly wrong with them
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post Jul 25 2008, 13:50
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My company bought a load of Ford LPG vans a few years ago - apparently Ford no longer want to know and it takes up to 9 weeks to get a service as they need to get in a Corgi registered gas fitter....

Personally I'd stick to Porsches if I didn't keep blowing them up but as I do I've settled for a pre registered Renault Megane ...


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post Jul 25 2008, 14:22
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QUOTE(Confucious @ Jul 25 2008, 14:50) *
My company bought a load of Ford LPG vans a few years ago - apparently Ford no longer want to know and it takes up to 9 weeks to get a service as they need to get in a Corgi registered gas fitter....


Corgi Gas fitter? ohmy.gif

Sounds like someone's pulling your leg. LPG is a whole different beast than natural gas requiring different handling and fitting.
When I had a gas Focus in 2001 I had trouble with servicing it as there were only 7 Ford dealers nationwide that were authorized so my closest was 200 miles away roundtrip. Had an issue with a valve on the donut fuel tank in the boot causing it to stall when cold (with a gas tank the valve's nearly always cold!) and the muppets didn't even check it running on gas first time around....got it sorted by Autogas2000 who used to be the Daddies for conversions years ago. They even fixed it for free despite me not buying anything from them before or since!

York City Council has factory LPG Astras for people to tootle around town in, from the reg plates these are approaching 3yrs old so will be approaching the end of their lease - I'm sure others will as well - so maybe worth checking about for an ex-council leased LPG car? Although hig mileage they'll be the most looked after servicing wise.

Sadly I'm sure they'll start taxing LPG heavily soon. IIRC it was originally burnt off from oilrigs / refineries as a waste product...

QUOTE(Confucious @ Jul 25 2008, 14:50) *
Personally I'd stick to Porsches if I didn't keep blowing them up ...


Ummmm, I think you're meant to check/top up the oil when that little oilcan light comes on the dashboard.... ;-)


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post Jul 25 2008, 14:38
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QUOTE(Mysterious Stranger @ Jul 25 2008, 15:22) *
Ummmm, I think you're meant to check/top up the oil when that little oilcan light comes on the dashboard.... ;-)
M.S

The light never came on - I was doing 70 (honest officer) in the outside lane on the M25 and after tyingh to figure out t=what the strange noise was I noticed the oil pressure gauge was very low. I went to pull over but, of course, whenm I lifted my foot of the accelerator the oil pressure dropped.....


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QUOTE(Confucious @ Jul 25 2008, 15:38) *
The light never came on - I was doing 70 (honest officer) in the outside lane on the M25 and after tyingh to figure out t=what the strange noise was I noticed the oil pressure gauge was very low. I went to pull over but, of course, whenm I lifted my foot of the accelerator the oil pressure dropped.....


Had you dipped the level recently? Modern cars oil lights are useless anyway as by the time they are on it can be too late.

I managed to 'save' my 1.8T Audi TT from an engine problem by virtue of checking the oil every week. I'd run over a (very high) speed hump with lowered suspension and a slightly flat front tyre and cracked the sump housing without realising - the oil was being caught and retained by the heatshield undertray so no massive leaks / drips were visible from visual checks after the 'thump'.

No warning light was on when I stopped the car a few days previously so without my checks I would have started it with no oil... ohmy.gif

£40 for the housing ( it's a VW golf and cheap as chips for parts unlike a Porsche, who are the most profitable car company in the world for a reason...) and 5 litres of fully synthetic later and I'm all sorted, no issues. The oil cost more than the sump - I'd only had it serviced the previous month.

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