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 Turning the M2000 off !, Is there a hack?
jmcglynn
post Mar 7 2005, 09:40
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Do you agree that whoever designed the M2000 to turn off/on with a quick press of the power button, and to dim with a long press should be sacked? !

Is there a hack to turn it off/on with a long press and dim it with a short press?

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post Mar 7 2005, 09:55
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I doubt it. Its a feature which has been a part of the Pocket PC Operating system since the very first models; its always been like that.


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post Mar 7 2005, 12:33
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I don't have an M2000 but I have had a number of iPAQ PPCs and have never found this to be a problem.
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post Mar 7 2005, 13:10
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I'm really surprised. It seems like such an obvious design flaw to me. The amount of times I have taken my m2000 out of my pocket and found it on, surely I'm not the only one that has this problem?

I know you can use a PIN to stop it doing things, but it still wastes battery, and I find the pin a little annoying.

Perhaps the button is more accesible on the M2000? don't know ?

I'm sure there is some really really clever person out there that can write this hack. :-)

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post Mar 7 2005, 13:24
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I agree with you on this actually - it's annoying. I think something like you find on MP3 players would be good...a "hold" switch, so that you can put it into standby and then flick the switch, and it disables the keys....would be useful.

I often put my hand into my pocket and accidentally press the button, and then the calendar or contact button gets pressed, and then the call button and I end up making calls to people I didn't mean to call!


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post Mar 7 2005, 14:14
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QUOTE(jmcglynn @ Mar 7 2005, 13:14)
I'm really surprised.  It seems like such an obvious design flaw to me.  The amount of times I have taken my m2000 out of my pocket and found it on,  surely I'm not the only one that has this problem?
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I've got mine set so that the only button that will wake it up is the power button. That stops a lot of these. However, the phone switches itself on now and then to do housekeeping tasks (scheduled wakeup), and there's nothing you can do.

Even when you don't want it off, I want to be able to fire up an mp3 and drop it in my pocket. Without having to arange the pocket lining so that it won't touch the screen and hit the stop icon!! Grrr!
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post Mar 7 2005, 14:20
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QUOTE(fraser @ Mar 7 2005, 14:18)
Even when you don't want it off, I want to be able to fire up an mp3 and drop it in my pocket. Without having to arange the pocket lining so that it won't touch the screen and hit the stop icon!! Grrr!
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If you use Windows Media Player, you can use Screen toggle to switch the screen off whilst you listen to your music.....


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post Mar 7 2005, 15:27
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QUOTE(Chaser81 @ Mar 7 2005, 14:24)
If you use Windows Media Player, you can use Screen toggle to switch the screen off whilst you listen to your music.....
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You mean the backlight toggle? The light is off, but the screen is still active, so you can still hit the icons. Can't see any other options in WMP that you mention, could you clarify?
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post Mar 7 2005, 16:21
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Go into Media Player, hit Menu-->Options-->Buttons and assign a button to "Screen Toggle".

This switches the screen off whilst continuing to play music.


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post Mar 7 2005, 16:29
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Neat, nice undocumented feature. I've started using MortPlayer to play music though, seems less "stuttery" for mp3, plus it makes playing albums easy.

EDIT: cool, Mortplayer has this as well!!


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post Mar 7 2005, 21:22
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Thanks for the replies folks.

I have all buttons disabled for power except the power button, but I still knock it on occassionally.

So, is there a clever developer out there? :-)

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post Mar 8 2005, 12:15
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The only decent way to stop calls etc being made is to set a password that activates after the device has been unused for 30 secs.

It's a bit of a pain to type each time you need access but it's better than making calls you don't want to. The device still wakes on mssg receipt but won't let you do anything until 4 digit-pass is entered. At least the keypad that appears is a large thumbnail-type you can hit with grubby fingers . . . .

I tried MortSaver but couldn't get it to work.
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post Mar 8 2005, 13:47
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QUOTE(Chaser81 @ Mar 7 2005, 16:25)
Go into Media Player, hit Menu-->Options-->Buttons and assign a button to "Screen Toggle".

This switches the screen off whilst continuing to play music.
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Sorry if I'm being thick... but is this on the M2000? I can't find it anywhere.
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post Mar 8 2005, 16:06
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QUOTE(Chaser81 @ Mar 7 2005, 16:25)
Go into Media Player, hit Menu-->Options-->Buttons and assign a button to "Screen Toggle".

This switches the screen off whilst continuing to play music.
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I've just looked for this on my MDA III... no Menu in Windows Media Player here... just Playlist and Tools.

More info?
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post Mar 8 2005, 16:52
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try tools - settings - buttons... thats where it is on my mdAIII
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post Mar 8 2005, 18:01
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QUOTE(stug @ Mar 8 2005, 16:56)
try tools - settings - buttons... thats where it is on my mdAIII
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Hmmm... there is an option in that section called Full Screen Toggle but it doesn't do what Chaser described.
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post Mar 9 2005, 00:04
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It's on my M2000 right above Full Screen Toggle, the entry is "Screen Toggle". The media player MortPlayer does this as well. There is a slim but remote chance that some third-party software installed this feature, perhaps even MortPlayer if others who do have the option have installed it. I didn't notice it until someone pointed it out to me above, but I didn't exactly go looking either, never thought that there would be options that were only assignable to buttons.
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post Mar 9 2005, 09:10
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QUOTE(Pondrew @ Mar 8 2005, 19:05)
Hmmm... there is an option in that section called Full Screen Toggle but it doesn't do what Chaser described.
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Yep, and on my MDA III there is Screen toggle above full screen toggle
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post Mar 9 2005, 16:43
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Mortsaver works a treat for me.
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post Mar 9 2005, 17:35
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It may have just been me as the option is there now and I haven't installed Mortplayer! Time to get my eyes tested methinks...
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