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 Jul 18 2005, 03:06
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 Diehard  Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 16th December 2002 From: Lymington Member No.: 1,148 Device(s): M500 and C500  |
Errr ok - this might sound a bit n00bish to some of you, but I received my M500 on Saturday and have been battling trying to work out how on earth you are supposed to lock the keys on it.
I've found the "Button Lock" option and have that set to "Lock all buttons except Power Button" when the "device is off". And I think I've turned off the device. A short press of the "power" button on the side seems to turn the device off completely (media player stops playing, etc..) and a long press just dims the screen. However, in both of these states, if I hit the green "make a call" button twice, it dials the last number (currently just Orange customer services so it's free!). Also, if I hit the "voice dialling" button, it'll start up the voice dialling app. Is there anyway to stop all this? I've set it up to ask for a password after 15 minutes of not being used - but there has to be a better solution - I hope! |
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Jul 18 2005, 09:22
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Diehard Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 16th December 2002 From: Lymington Member No.: 1,148 Device(s): M500 and C500 |
OK - I've found the problem - or is it solution...?
It appears that if you have bluetooth running, the keylock does not work. However, with BT turned off, it works fine :/ Only found it this morning as I've had BT on all weekend, when connected to my PC *sigh* |
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Jul 18 2005, 09:30
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 Addict  Group: Posters Posts: 631 Joined: 22nd February 2005 From: HOLLAND!!!!! Member No.: 112,518 Device(s): SPV C500, M500 |
when i "lock all buttons except power button" it does just that... nothing else works at all.
EDIT: just checked this with bluetooth active and it is still totally locked EDIT EDIT: ooh k, yes, it does do those things but it does them without switching the screen on. strange bug.... anyone know if the crops up with the jam? This post has been edited by confused and hungover: Jul 18 2005, 09:52 -------------------- devices: C500, evil evil M500, C600, Magic Bullet, hole punch, screw driver
So this seal walks into a club..... But.... i didn't eat sweetcorn?!?!? |
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Jul 18 2005, 10:38
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 Hardcore  Group: Posters Posts: 3,395 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: UK Member No.: 51 Device(s): i-mate JAM/SPV C500 |
Does the same on my JAM, if BT is off and i turn the device off, i can press any buttons and nothing happens, but if BT is on, i turn the device off, but the calender, call etc. buttons still work :?
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Jul 18 2005, 11:00
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 32 Joined: 2nd December 2004 Member No.: 100,142 |
Does the same on my Qtek S100, running the latest ROM.
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Jul 18 2005, 12:22
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Diehard Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 16th December 2002 From: Lymington Member No.: 1,148 Device(s): M500 and C500 |
Glad it's not just me then...
And yeah - I should've said about the screen still staying switched off - apologies about that! Can't understand how something so obvious was missed during the testing for the OS (as that's where it would seem to be going by the fact that it's present in more than one brand of handset). I found it within about 5 minutes of playing with the handset as keylocks are something that I just don't trust until I've proven to myself that they work. And especially as many people are likely to be driving with BT headsets and will want to shut the phone down as they don't want to make any calls, but will want to have it alive to answer incoming calls. Can just imagine the phone voice-dialling the first name it recognises from the radio :roll: EDIT: Just wondering - does the same thing happen on an M2000 (for example) or is it limited to just these models? Anyone with an M2000 able to test this? This post has been edited by Hax: Jul 18 2005, 12:24 |
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Jul 18 2005, 13:57
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 Hardcore Group: Moderator Team Posts: 4,408 Joined: 19th February 2003 From: South Croydon Member No.: 2,910 Device(s): MDA Vario II |
Doesn't seem to happen on my MDA III (HTC Blue Angel same as an SPV M2000) so guess it's specific to the HTC Magician.
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Jul 21 2005, 12:53
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 22 Joined: 7th May 2003 From: E.London Member No.: 5,732 |
I have had a similar problem with mine (which I got yesterday).
I just assumed that you hit the powere button and that was key locked. By the sounds of it this ain't the case. I haven't seen anything in the manual about it either. My other problem is that the last called on my phone doesn't seem to change. Its been stuck on teh sam name even though I've called other people since?... Any ideas why that happened. Other then that i have no major problems. I haven't used a smart phone for a really really really long time so I am just trying to work things out with it. Just out of interest do I need to unlock it so that certain applications can work on it?.....and how do I change the background and ring tones etc? cheers |
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Jul 21 2005, 15:20
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 79 Joined: 23rd November 2004 From: Cardiff Member No.: 66,282 Device(s): Xperia X1 |
QUOTE(Hax @ Jul 18 2005, 09:22) OK - I've found the problem - or is it solution...? It appears that if you have bluetooth running, the keylock does not work. However, with BT turned off, it works fine :/ Only found it this morning as I've had BT on all weekend, when connected to my PC *sigh*  Afraid I still havent got it. Seems that no matter how I try to turn it off it still rings unless I actually remove the battery! Says in manual a long press to turn off phone and single press to turn off pda function. Both result in the phone still ringing! |
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Jul 21 2005, 15:43
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 631 Joined: 22nd February 2005 From: HOLLAND!!!!! Member No.: 112,518 Device(s): SPV C500, M500 |
QUOTE(dwj @ Jul 21 2005, 17:20) Afraid I still havent got it. Seems that no matter how I try to turn it off it still rings unless I actually remove the battery! Says in manual a long press to turn off phone and single press to turn off pda function. Both result in the phone still ringing! you can't switch it off, not completely. it needs to stay active to keep from loosing data. if you set it to 'flight mode' then press the button on the side to switch it of, that will stop calls, thats the closest you can come to actually turning it off -------------------- devices: C500, evil evil M500, C600, Magic Bullet, hole punch, screw driver
So this seal walks into a club..... But.... i didn't eat sweetcorn?!?!? |
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Jul 21 2005, 15:57
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 79 Joined: 23rd November 2004 From: Cardiff Member No.: 66,282 Device(s): Xperia X1 |
QUOTE(confused and hungover @ Jul 21 2005, 15:43) you can't switch it off, not completely. it needs to stay active to keep from loosing data. if you set it to 'flight mode' then press the button on the side to switch it of, that will stop calls, thats the closest you can come to actually turning it off Blimey! Guess I thought that with all that technology on board an on/off button wouldnt be that hard. But see what you mean and thanks for that. |
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Jul 22 2005, 06:39
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 Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,121 Joined: 20th February 2005 From: Leonay, NSW Member No.: 112,043 Device(s): Samsung BlackJack II |
Setting this setting works fine for me. With BT on or off it locks to buttons fine:
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Jul 22 2005, 11:28
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Diehard Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 16th December 2002 From: Lymington Member No.: 1,148 Device(s): M500 and C500 |
Odd...
It's a definite problem for myself and for others :s With Blue Tooth enabled, I make a short press of the "Power" button - the screen switches off and I would expect keys to be locked at this point. However, if I press the green "Make a call" button twice, then the last number I called is dialled without the screen coming to life. Another short press of the power button turns the screen on with the dialler showing the call progress. Does it every single time if Blue Tooth is enabled - 100% reproducible :s |
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Jul 22 2005, 11:40
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,121 Joined: 20th February 2005 From: Leonay, NSW Member No.: 112,043 Device(s): Samsung BlackJack II |
Nope, can't get it to turn on to any press by any button other than power. Pushing green twice does nothing either. All this will BT on. I have ROM v1.03.
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Jul 22 2005, 11:54
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Diehard Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 16th December 2002 From: Lymington Member No.: 1,148 Device(s): M500 and C500 |
Ah-ha...
I have: ROM Version: 1.06.00 ROM Date: 01/06/05 *sigh* looks like Orange have done it again... Updated the software and managed to screw it up :s |
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Jul 22 2005, 11:55
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 88 Joined: 10th August 2004 Member No.: 52,453 |
Could it be that this is intended functionality?
It sounds like it only does all this if Bluetooth is enabled. Could this be in order to allow voice control and last number redial without turning the screen on, if a headset is connected? Edit - Actually, I've just tried this on my M500 and it doesn't work. I turned on bluetooth, pressed the side button to turn the screen off, and then tried the voice button and the dial button (green phone). Neither do anything. Have those that are having the problem executed the "trick" to prevent the Orange software being installed from the Extended Storage folder? I'm sure there are both bluetooth and keylock things in there... (eg: the action engine, bthusb_patch, autolock?) This post has been edited by dan13l: Jul 22 2005, 11:59 |
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Jul 22 2005, 12:18
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Diehard Group: Members Posts: 415 Joined: 16th December 2002 From: Lymington Member No.: 1,148 Device(s): M500 and C500 |
What "trick" ?
(That's an obvious "no" then!) |
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Jul 22 2005, 13:08
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 88 Joined: 10th August 2004 Member No.: 52,453 |
Yeah, that pretty much answers my question Hax
 The "trick": If you hard reset the device, walk through the calibration process, then soft reset before the installation process starts, you can avoid having all the Orange software installed. You can then opt to install various bits and bobs from the extended storage folder (for example PhonePad, Photo Contacts, etc). At some point I must do a list of what each app does, unless someone beats me to it. |
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Jul 22 2005, 14:35
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 29 Joined: 1st December 2002 Member No.: 398 |
I keep seeing references to a "voice button" on the M500 - which one is it? Or have you allocated a button to the voice dial software?
EDIT - Never mind, I've found it - it's the Record button on the left hand edge. So how come it fires up Voice Dial, when it is clearly set to activate the Record software in the settings? And another thing - anyone found out if you can remap the volume slider on the left to do the same thing a scroll wheel does on other Pocket PCs? This post has been edited by Flopsy: Jul 22 2005, 14:41 |
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Jul 22 2005, 15:04
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 79 Joined: 23rd November 2004 From: Cardiff Member No.: 66,282 Device(s): Xperia X1 |
QUOTE(Hax @ Jul 22 2005, 11:54) Ah-ha... I have: ROM Version: 1.06.00 ROM Date: 01/06/05 *sigh* looks like Orange have done it again... Updated the software and managed to screw it up :s Might be your phone thats faulty? I have just got the m500 same rom as you and key lock works fine with or without bluetooth. |
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