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 Dec 17 2007, 13:57
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 32 Joined: 5th December 2007 Member No.: 329,616 Device(s): BJII  |
Is it like this for everyone? It takes almost 7 minutes for my BJ-II to get a position lock. I have a bluetooth GPS puck and its always within 3 minutes from a cold start.
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Dec 17 2007, 14:12
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 6 Joined: 12th December 2007 Member No.: 332,095 Device(s): BlackJack II |
QUOTE(opticalc @ Dec 17 2007, 08:57)  Is it like this for everyone? It takes almost 7 minutes for my BJ-II to get a position lock. I have a bluetooth GPS puck and its always within 3 minutes from a cold start. Same for me, very aggrivating. I think I may drop 35 bucks for a bluetooth one on ebay. |
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Dec 17 2007, 14:37
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 Peanut Brain  Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 6,358 Joined: 10th September 2004 From: Surrey, England Member No.: 56,072 Device(s): iPhone 8Gb. Athena, C600 |
HTC phones have a utility called QuickGPS which downloads details of satelites periodically and helps get a quicker fix. Maybe that would help if you can find a copy.
-------------------- He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
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Dec 17 2007, 14:41
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 The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,097 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
Not as simple as that unfortunately confucious.
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Dec 17 2007, 14:47
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 14 Joined: 15th March 2007 Member No.: 238,349 |
I run a program called GPSTest to get my GPS running before I use the actual GPS program I use (Windows Live Search). I find that GPSTest can get a lock in a couple of minutes from a cold start. I usually turn it on like 10 minutes before I know I'm going anywhere to make sure the GPS signal is 'warmed up'. Is it perfect? No, but it's good enough for me.
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Dec 17 2007, 17:19
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 32 Joined: 5th December 2007 Member No.: 329,616 Device(s): BJII |
It seems like Google Maps *should* be able to use the MyLocation feature combined with the cell tower time to determine which satellites should be overhead at that particular location/time. This should allow for a less than 30 second GPS signal lock in 3D. How could we go about proposing this idea to google?
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Dec 18 2007, 06:26
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 7 Joined: 25th December 2006 Member No.: 219,428 |
Maybe someone adept at programming for WM can whip up a little app that uses minimal resources and simply runs in the background and maintains a GPS connection, so its "always on".
Discuss viability... -shrug- |
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Dec 18 2007, 18:08
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 Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 280 Joined: 8th February 2004 From: USA Member No.: 31,559 |
Just to add my $0.02, it works fine for me.
I ran the MoDaCo GPS fix. I had no problem this morning with Google Maps. While driving it found me via the GPS in under 2 minutes. Note however that Google Maps ONLY worked when I used the 'windows' settings. It doesn't pick it up using the COM ports. I've seen discussion to this effect elsewhere, and I wonder if there is some confusion out there, what with some people using other GPS software that might require the COM port approach. So for Google Maps - stick to the default 'windows' settings and it should work out fine. |
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Dec 19 2007, 16:21
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 14 Joined: 15th March 2007 Member No.: 238,349 |
QUOTE(JemDogs @ Dec 18 2007, 01:26) Maybe someone adept at programming for WM can whip up a little app that uses minimal resources and simply runs in the background and maintains a GPS connection, so its "always on". Discuss viability... -shrug- I'm pretty confident your battery life would take a nosedive doing that. But I'm not at all adept on the subject. I just don't think there's a way to keep a 'small' connection to GPS satellites. There may be a way to keep it 'warmed up', but I still think the battery life cost wouldn't make it viable. :\ |
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Dec 19 2007, 17:48
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 1 Joined: 12th December 2007 Member No.: 332,347 Device(s): BlackJack 2 |
I have a BJII and it is acquiring the GPS signal in under 2 minutes. I have the GPS working with the Garmin XT and also Google Maps.
Clark |
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Dec 19 2007, 22:58
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,097 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
I'm gonna release a simple little 'GPS Starter' app for BJII and Q9H, watch this space.
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Dec 20 2007, 05:32
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 7 Joined: 19th December 2007 Member No.: 334,848 Device(s): BJ II |
I start the GPS function, throw it on my dash, and within a minute I am locked in using Google Maps. Your location and obstructions will affect it greatly. I am in the Sacramento valley so it is flat and easy. And your battery will take a hit if you leave it live.
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Dec 22 2007, 04:38
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 5 Joined: 19th December 2007 Member No.: 334,948 Device(s): SGH-i617 |
QUOTE(kpy @ Dec 19 2007, 21:32) I start the GPS function, throw it on my dash, and within a minute I am locked in using Google Maps. Your location and obstructions will affect it greatly. I am in the Sacramento valley so it is flat and easy. And your battery will take a hit if you leave it live. I have to agree, but something strange here. I installed your GPS fix, found it didnt work. Uninstalled, tried google maps again and it worked under a minute. Since then I had it running periodicly and it runs just fine under the 'windows' setting also. But the fix is uninstalled, I'm wondering.. after uninstalling, are there changes internally that I dont know about? (newb here). I tried installing the reg commander app posted in one of these threads but I got a "this program was not intended for your device". I'm guessing you changed something in the registry with your fix? Either way, it works now =) when connected to 3 sat's i get a reading from within 30 or so feet, when only 1 sat it can be as bad as a hundred meters. Either way, its free and im loving it. I dont think I'll have problems being lost down town now 
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Dec 26 2007, 19:03
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 6 Joined: 16th December 2007 Member No.: 333,539 |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ Dec 19 2007, 22:58) I'm gonna release a simple little 'GPS Starter' app for BJII and Q9H, watch this space. P Anxiously waiting for this app! :-P |
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Dec 31 2007, 22:41
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 24 Joined: 31st December 2007 Member No.: 339,158 Device(s): Black Jack II |
QUOTE Maybe someone adept at programming for WM can whip up a little app that uses minimal resources and simply runs in the background and maintains a GPS connection, so its "always on". Discuss viability... -shrug- QUOTE(jpwoof @ Dec 26 2007, 14:03) Anxiously waiting for this app! :-P GPSTest does exactly that. After a couple of minutes aquiring the GPS information it stays resident in the background. This allows all of my apps to pick up a gps signal instantaneously. If you haven't gotten it...it's here: http://classic.pocketgear.com/software_det...p;associateid=9 Just hit the .exe with activesync open and it fires up on the phone. Then create a startup lnk and you are good to go! |
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