Windows Mobile 7 VERY 'scooped'... you're gonna want this now!, Bag open, cat nowhere to be seen... |
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 Jan 6 2008, 22:33
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 The Main Man  Group: Admin Team Posts: 19,559 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage  |
 It's clear they've got hold of something they really shouldn't have - and i'm sure Microsoft will be livid at such extensive detail leaking so early in a product's life cycle - but for us Windows Mobile fans, it sure makes for exciting reading! You can read the full article at http://microsoft.blognewschannel.com/archi...otion-gestures/, i've included a teaser below  Let the drooling begin! P QUOTE(InsideMicrosoft) Microsoft is currently developing Windows Mobile 7, the first revolutionary change to its mobile device operating system. Recently, I was given a document by a source inside Microsoft that details the touch and gesture plans for Mobile 7. This document is a confidential internal use only document, used to explain the plans for Mobile 7, and contains well over a hundred pages of designs, ideas, and changes to the way we interact with our mobile devices.
Below, you’ll find over 3,000 words detailing my notes from the document. I can’t publish the document here, at least not until after the product is announced, to protect my sources. I will provide the document to trusted journalists in order to share and show proof of this information. If there is anything I leave out, please don’t hesitate to ask and I will try to provide a screenshot or answer. The document appears to be from the past summer, and some of the details may change before the product is announced. However, the touch and gesture plans appear to be set in stone, and will be the focus of Windows Mobile 7. What’s New Windows Mobile 7 will dramatically change the way we use mobile devices. It will emphasize the use of touch on the device, as well as motion gestures created by using the device. It is, absolutely, Microsoft’s effort to beat back the iPhone, and the iPhone is referenced several times in the document. -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Jan 6 2008, 23:03
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Addict  Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 709 Joined: 19th November 2003 From: London - UK Member No.: 21,445 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
I just read aobut this on here, engadget and gizmodo.
Looks bloody amazing! Obviously...people are going to compare it to the iPhone...but jesus...this is the overhaul that windows mobile needs. If this is what WM7 is going to bring...then WM8 (the supposed true FULL overhaul) should be earth shattering. This post has been edited by Syphon Filter: Jan 6 2008, 23:04 |
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Jan 6 2008, 23:06
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 19,559 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
Looks to me like this IS the full overhaul, and yus, I want it NOW!
You're right tho, this is the kinda of complete change that WinMo needs. I just hope it retains the power in with the user friendliness  P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Jan 6 2008, 23:07
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 AKA 'jlowap' MoDaCo Old Skool Group: Moderator Team Posts: 3,527 Joined: 12th February 2003 From: North Devon, UK Member No.: 2,777 Device(s): glofiish X800 + HTC Diamond |
oh boy! Oh boy! OH BOY!!!
Wow, wow and double wow! Well its only going to be about a year late but its sounds fantastic!! I love the idea about using the camera to detect motion  P.s. Writing this on my iPod touch:) -------------------- James Lovell
Microsoft Windows Mobile Specialist 2008 And ive got a certificate to prove it :P Get Your HTC DIAMOND HERE! |
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Jan 6 2008, 23:11
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 Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,475 Joined: 27th February 2006 From: Milton Keynes UK Member No.: 174,863 Device(s): Kaiser, Touch, WM6 G4 Wizard |
It's starting to look more and more like the iPhone was the just kick up the rear WM needed!
A very long-overdue overhaul, roll on 2009
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Jan 6 2008, 23:21
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 62 Joined: 25th April 2006 Member No.: 186,955 Device(s): T-Mobile MDA Touch Plus |
Wow - bring it on I say, the current touch interface of WM6 is too stylus intensive and that's what I hate about it.
-------------------- Smartphone History
Orange SPX1 Prototype > Orange SPV E100 > Orange SPV E200 > Orange SPV C500 > iMate SP3i > Qtek 8310 > Qtek 8500 > Samsung i600 |
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Jan 6 2008, 23:40
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 Silly Me  Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 169 Joined: 29th January 2005 From: Coventry, UK Member No.: 107,447 Device(s): SPV C500, Hermes |
It looks superb and really interesting/slick. Great write up as well from that author as well.
THe interesting thing is that it appears that the camera will be a lot more pivotol in future generations. This post has been edited by emyllis: Jan 6 2008, 23:48 |
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Jan 6 2008, 23:49
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Regular Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 134 Joined: 11th July 2006 From: Sunny Island Member No.: 197,771 Device(s): HTC TYTN II |
Very nice but I suspect we will all need new hardware to take advantage of it properly.
I'm still struggling to see why this is going to take a year to get to market though... |
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Jan 7 2008, 03:24
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 65 Joined: 19th October 2004 Member No.: 61,112 |
after microsofts track record of overpromising underdelivering...(eg vista)
I say yawn.. by 2009 apples phone will be at another level all together, blackberry will have the touch features and googles phone will likely be on its 3rd or 4th version. I say too late microsoft, am done with you. I wave a gesture at micorosft, hopefully their phones will be able to interpret |
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Jan 7 2008, 06:37
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 Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 162 Joined: 8th April 2006 From: Pune - India Member No.: 183,623 Device(s): HTC Vox |
this is really awesome, i guess this will WM7 is the photon release then
i just hope the WM7 devices show up soon -------------------- HTC Vox
ThinkPan.com |
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Jan 7 2008, 09:23
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Maybe it's just me but having played with iPhone from a friend, Microsoft is just copying their design. So nothing new... move on.
(but yay, it's coming to Windows Mobile anyway lol) -------------------- - Tony Sutton
- My Ford Focus ST170 car - Using MDA Vario III with 6GB MicroSD card - Got Phone, GPS and WiFi together? Sign up & Make Money with Navizon! |
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Jan 7 2008, 09:28
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 19,559 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
I think it's easy to dismiss it as iphone-alike, but when you look at the detail, it's really not so much.
Remember too that WM has had touch UI a lot longer than the iPhone P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Jan 7 2008, 09:46
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 Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 224 Joined: 31st January 2003 From: Selkirk, Scotland Living: Birmingham Member No.: 2,520 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
Can't wait until I can 'lean to the left' and drive my car game to the left also...Will get a bit mad, when everyone on the train is all body gesturing to drive their mobiles :-) hehehe - Really like the fact that it can be used on existing devices and not need a Hardware upgrade! M$FT might actually end up doing something right!
-------------------- Web: http://www.InternetWideWorld.com/
Phone History: Philips Genie (Vodaphone: 1998), Nokia 7110 (Orange: 1999), SPV (Orange), SPV E100 (Orange), SPV E200 (Orange), SPV C500 (Orange), SPV C550 (Orange), MDA Vario 2 (T-Mobile:21/08/2006), HTC TyTN II (T-Mobile:05/09/2007) HTC Diamond (T-Mobile:20/06/2008) |
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Jan 7 2008, 10:14
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 Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 2,669 Joined: 4th November 2003 From: London Member No.: 20,052 Device(s): HTC Diamond |
I am getting so bored with the MS knocking that rears its ugly head every single time we discuss a new development.
MS's products aren't a panacea. They don't stop World Poverty. They can't cure cancer. What they do is provide a pretty damned good OS for pc's or mobiles etc. If you don't like it, then go use someone else's OS's. Don't spend your life trying to make those of us who are "satisfied" with their products feel like dismal failures. If all the MS knockers were the same about everything else, they would stress themselves into an early grave: "OMG Waitrose have launched a new range of filled pasta's - but they haven't done one with Ricotta and Serano Ham - why oh why can't Waitrose be like Sainsburys?" I say: Thank God for choice! Edit to say this isnt aimed at anyone specifically on this thread - YET This post has been edited by jimbouk: Jan 7 2008, 10:16 -------------------- HTC Diamond running Dutty's V1.6 rom.
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Jan 7 2008, 11:35
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 191 Joined: 7th November 2004 From: Milton Keynes Member No.: 64,009 Device(s): SPV C500, SPV M3100 |
QUOTE(James @ Jan 6 2008, 23:07)  I love the idea about using the camera to detect motion Having seen this facility on Nokia phones in the past, it is generally pretty poor. Think about how it behaves in bad light conditions, and the issue with battery life from keeping the camera on all the time. An accelerometer solution is superior in every way. I use Windows Mobile and Symbian (sorry!) and the recent release of an accelerometer API for N95 has produced a variety of gesture based software similar to the stuff described here. Additionally, an accelerometer also lets the phone know which orientation it is at, allowing for automatic rotating of the screen, automatically rotating photos/videos taken with the camera to have the correct orientation when exported, etc. I'm guessing Microsoft is hoping to make WM7 backwards compatible with some existing handsets (at the least, it would make it easier to develop on existing handsets while new ones were being developed), or to reduce cost of handsets, but I really hope that they add in support for an accelerometer, even if it's just optional on devices. The camera based solution is a poor alternative. |
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Jan 7 2008, 11:55
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 Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 252 Joined: 29th April 2005 From: Italy Member No.: 126,630 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i600 (WM6) |
lol the camera motion... this sux
1. the camera always on, even on standby, will eat batteries like hot cakes 2. if you are in darkness it won't work 3. you can't use it while walking LOL what a poor man solution is the camera motion! -------------------- Weird things and Mitac Mio 8390 downloads on http://digilander.libero.it/tipika
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Jan 7 2008, 12:04
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 2,669 Joined: 4th November 2003 From: London Member No.: 20,052 Device(s): HTC Diamond |
I wonder when the conspiracy theoriests will suggest that MS want the camera always on so they can spy on you all the time.
-------------------- HTC Diamond running Dutty's V1.6 rom.
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Jan 7 2008, 12:10
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 Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 21 Joined: 6th October 2006 Member No.: 209,187 Device(s): Iphone |
Now that is sweet... 2008 sure is gonna be a long wait...
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Jan 7 2008, 16:53
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 1 Joined: 22nd May 2006 Member No.: 191,121 Device(s): qtek 8310 |
I want to see the time, not a freakin icon! Why does microsoft make their icons bigger than the actual info you want to see? How about a little more thought to function over design. That's what makes the iphone so nice.
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Jan 7 2008, 16:58
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 Regular Group: Posters Posts: 102 Joined: 13th May 2003 Member No.: 6,083 Device(s): HTC Wizard |
I'm not convinced this is real but if it is, it's a step in the right direction.
2009 is waaaaaay off for this though. It needs to be out by summer at the very latest. By 2009 the iPhone and other devices will have moved on and WinMo will be playing catch-up yet again. |
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