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Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth  |
Thought I'd experiment with this and got a result today.
Here's how to do it. Torrentflux or other media orientated web interfaces allow for files to be streamed using VLC. Log on to your media server using your favourite browser(opera mini for me) and select the file to stream... I selected the following output options : Video DIV4 - 384kbps Audio - mpga - 64kbps Launch TCPMP and point it to your home IP .... mms://home-ip:port/ Sit back and enjoy your movie. I'm in the process of tuning TCPMP for network playback as it does stutter a bit. Any help fine tuning would be great here. I've found that it's definately TCPMP that needs tuning as streaming over wifi is perfect. |
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Feb 14 2008, 03:44
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 143 Joined: 13th August 2005 From: Colorado, usually Member No.: 144,173 Device(s): Tilt, 2125, SMT5600 |
QUOTE(Subliminal Aura @ Feb 13 2008, 17:04)  Thought I'd experiment with this and got a result today. Here's how to do it. Torrentflux or other media orientated web interfaces allow for files to be streamed using VLC. Log on to your media server using your favourite browser(opera mini for me) and select the file to stream... I selected the following output options : Video DIV4 - 384kbps Audio - mpga - 64kbps Launch TCPMP and point it to your home IP .... mms://home-ip:port/ Sit back and enjoy your movie. I'm in the process of tuning TCPMP for network playback as it does stutter a bit. Any help fine tuning would be great here. I've found that it's definately TCPMP that needs tuning as streaming over wifi is perfect. That sounds cool, but it seems a bit more complicated than, say, Orb or something similar. What's the advantage here? |
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Feb 14 2008, 09:21
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
QUOTE(Snooginsguy @ Feb 14 2008, 03:44) That sounds cool, but it seems a bit more complicated than, say, Orb or something similar. What's the advantage here? Yeh you may be right... But at least you can guarentee the streaming of any media type using method. Also setting up automounting of isos is relatively easy as everything is modular... You hit a webpage ... click the link and in the background scripts decide how to mount and stream the object to you. The source object could be anything from a webcam/av input such as cable tv or a file. Got a link to 'orb' ? Google time for me |
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Feb 14 2008, 09:56
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TOMnia !  Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,048 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
http://www.orb.com/
I've got it working, and seems ok over home LAN. Can happily browse my files over internet from wireless access point or via handset on 3G. But always times out when I try to get it to stream a video file. -------------------- --
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Feb 14 2008, 10:03
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
Yeh had a quick look at Orb and don't think much of it tbh.
VLC is the King in this arena. |
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Feb 14 2008, 10:10
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TOMnia ! Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,048 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
Orb is great if you want remote access to files too.
I just want a simple solution to stream video from my home network. So lets see if I've got this right ... with your setup, you login to your media streaming application and select what you want to watch, and start it streaming. Then you launch VLC to capture the streaming feed and display it? Sounds a bit fiddly but interesting nonetheless. Id be interested to see how you go with this. Ok, you say when on the internet it stutters a bit. I guess this is down to two issues: 1) How fast is your internet upload at home? 2) Viewing over HSDPA, 3G etc is not the same as viewing over a land based broadband connection. (Unless its changed without me knowing!). As far as Im aware, mobile broadband solutions send the data in bursts, its just that with the faster mobile broadband it can almost be deemed as streaming because there are lots of packets coming very fast. -------------------- --
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Feb 14 2008, 10:27
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Feb 14 2008, 10:10) Orb is great if you want remote access to files too. I just want a simple solution to stream video from my home network. So lets see if I've got this right ... with your setup, you login to your media streaming application and select what you want to watch, and start it streaming. Then you launch VLC to capture the streaming feed and display it? Sounds a bit fiddly but interesting nonetheless. I've seen the youtube video for Orb and I don't see anything more than what torrentflux cannot already do. Torentflux is a web server that also allows you to download torrents via the web interface(its primary function actually) it also has a file manager from which you can stream files... So everyting happens through the web interface - ie no launching VLC directly. The webserver also keeps track of what you are streaming and allows you to stop/start or change source. http://tf-b4rt.berlios.de/features.html#filemanager http://tf-b4rt.berlios.de/images/screensho...-alpha7/vlc.png QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Feb 14 2008, 10:10) Id be interested to see how you go with this. Ok, you say when on the internet it stutters a bit. I guess this is down to two issues: 1) How fast is your internet upload at home? 2) Viewing over HSDPA, 3G etc is not the same as viewing over a land based broadband connection. (Unless its changed without me knowing!). As far as Im aware, mobile broadband solutions send the data in bursts, its just that with the faster mobile broadband it can almost be deemed as streaming because there are lots of packets coming very fast. 1 - Should not be an issue - 786kbps up - I have streamed the files to my desktop at work and they are flawless. 2 - Indeed I think this may be the issue I have to look at a way to buffer TCPMP more effeciently. Quick google came up with this page : (note the quality variables) http://www.mobilestreamingvideo.com/ Also note how they emphasise low quality in this page... http://www.mobilestreamingvideo.com/playback.html However as I said previously I streamed directly from home to my laptop via HSDPA and again the playback was perfect so my finger points firmly to TCPMP. This post has been edited by Subliminal Aura: Feb 14 2008, 10:31 |
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Feb 14 2008, 10:50
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
The other thing I don't get is that when I'm streaming to the Kaiser from home to the phone whilst it's craddled playback is again flawless. (I just tried it a couple of mins back).
I'm going to try these settings.... http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...ing#post1911982 |
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Feb 14 2008, 11:01
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TOMnia ! Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,048 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
That might work, just to ensure that it buffers enough to start playing it properly.
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Feb 14 2008, 11:12
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Feb 14 2008, 11:01) That might work, just to ensure that it buffers enough to start playing it properly. Whoo Hoo It did  Sorry about the screen grab but you get the idea  
display_4.bmp ( 225.05K )
Number of downloads: 23
display_5.bmp ( 225.05K )
Number of downloads: 23 |
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Feb 14 2008, 11:25
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TOMnia ! Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,048 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
Looks good!
Come on then ... share how you got it working. I need to investigate this media centre thing. I have my "film backups" all currently arranged in a folder structure, rather than indexed by a torrent tool. Oooh also ... whats that homescreen you are using? It takes up less real estate than the standard HTC Home. -------------------- --
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Feb 14 2008, 11:30
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Feb 14 2008, 11:25) Looks good! Come on then ... share how you got it working. Huh ? Thought I just did What do you want a YouTube vid ?QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Feb 14 2008, 11:25) I need to investigate this media centre thing. I have my "film backups" all currently arranged in a folder structure, rather than indexed by a torrent tool. They are not indexed  My files are in directories too. QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Feb 14 2008, 11:25) Oooh also ... whats that homescreen you are using? It takes up less real estate than the standard HTC Home. 1 - phoneAlarm 2 - Wireless 3 - SPB GPRS Monitor |
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Feb 14 2008, 11:35
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
Next project will be to stream my cable TV box using the same principle.
Scart out from the TV/Digibox relayed via cat5e modules up to my PC in my office. Into the capture card and out via VLC - easy as 3.1415926536.... Channel changes will have to be done via a networked redrat remote (blame IRDA signals used by the telewest box). |
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Feb 14 2008, 12:00
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TOMnia ! Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,048 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
QUOTE(Subliminal Aura @ Feb 14 2008, 11:30) Huh ? Thought I just did What do you want a YouTube vid ?So these are all the changes you made? open TCPMP, goto OPTIONS goto SETTINGS goto SELECT PAGE goto BUFFERING set the NORMAL BUFFER SIZE to 8192 KB set the PRELOAD AT UNDERRUN to 50% (you may leave at 70%) set the PRELOAD FOR AUDIO to 128 KB leave others as it is... enjoy your DVD resolution movies... QUOTE(Subliminal Aura @ Feb 14 2008, 11:30) They are not indexed My files are in directories too. Ah ok, shall have to investigate that one ... looks promising :-) QUOTE(Subliminal Aura @ Feb 14 2008, 11:30) 1 - phoneAlarm 2 - Wireless 3 - SPB GPRS Monitor Oooh Phone alarm, Im using that, which skin is it then ? Cheers -------------------- --
My Toys: Omnia: Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia - 8GB SD HC O-SeXy Advent 4211 - 2GB Ram - 250GB HDD - Running OSX Leopard like a dream! Doris She has bewbs! (Not her real name tho!) |
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Feb 14 2008, 12:03
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TOMnia ! Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,048 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
Gah just realised Torrentflux is linux based ... Gonna have to stick with the memory hungry Azureus on my server. Especially as it has peer guardian running too :S
Although come to think of it, Azureus does streaming and media centerish stuff! -------------------- --
My Toys: Omnia: Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia - 8GB SD HC O-SeXy Advent 4211 - 2GB Ram - 250GB HDD - Running OSX Leopard like a dream! Doris She has bewbs! (Not her real name tho!) |
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Feb 14 2008, 12:03
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
Stop gap...
I'm trying to find some nice VLC web interfaces instead... Reading this at the moment as it appears that VLC has one built in ? :| http://www.engadget.com/2005/11/29/how-to-...hing-using-vlc/ QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Feb 14 2008, 12:00) Oooh Phone alarm, Im using that, which skin is it then ? Phatfingers I think ? This post has been edited by Subliminal Aura: Feb 14 2008, 12:04 |
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Feb 14 2008, 12:10
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 354 Joined: 8th October 2007 Member No.: 308,966 Device(s): ipaq 3630|Nokia 6210i|BooTooth |
QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Feb 14 2008, 12:03) Gah just realised Torrentflux is linux based ... Gonna have to stick with the memory hungry Azureus on my server. Especially as it has peer guardian running too :S LOL Azureus really does suck the life out of your machine. Torrentflux is the lightest one I've used to date but being mysql/php based should be easy to run on Windoze. |
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