The official Eten Glofiish M800 'Ask Paul' thread |
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 Mar 20 2008, 15:59
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 The Main Man  Group: Admin Team Posts: 19,011 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III  |
Wish your Kaiser had a VGA screen? OK, so the specs don't EXACTLY match, but you might like to check out the the Eten Glofiish M800... unboxed here for your pleasure
 Featuring that oh so lovely VGA screen, a 500MHz Samsung processor, a slide out keyboard and second-to-none SiRF III GPS, it's one hot puppy. Strikes against it include 64MB RAM, a 2MP camera and no 'tilt', but i'll be putting the device through it's paces and will report back how I get on. Got a question? Fire away! P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Mar 20 2008, 17:18
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 Moderator - Boing! Group: Admin Team Posts: 8,485 Joined: 12th December 2002 From: Guildford, UK Member No.: 993 Device(s): Touch Diamond / MWg Zinc II |
How about an in action comparison vid using, say Google Maps or Netfront with both the M800 and the Kaiser? Show off some VGA lovin'
-------------------- This months MoDaCo WinMo Week device: the MWg Zinc II! Ask your questions HERE and download the show here! Visit My Mini City daily to help the population grow - Isildur's Bane! - By clicking HERE! - Every hit counts! 2.25GB of backup storage online for free with Mozy! - https://mozy.com/?ref=VQ664H |
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Mar 20 2008, 17:24
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 19,011 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
Nice idea
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Mar 20 2008, 17:47
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 Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 212 Joined: 3rd January 2005 From: Cambridge, UK Member No.: 104,315 Device(s): HTC Touch |
A weird question, but, do you think the device looks ugly?
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Mar 20 2008, 22:09
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TyTNic !  Group: News Team Posts: 612 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): T-Mobile MDA Vario III |
When I got the TyTN II I compared it with the Glofiish products available at the time, and the only thing putting me off was RAM and lack of tilt screen.
Is the lesser ram really an issue? Will the VGA screen deplete the battery quicker? Lastly, the "issue" about the TyTN II not using hardware accelerated graphics driver, is this the case with the M800, or is it using hardware graphics? If so, wonder if that will make it a Kaiser killer ! -------------------- --
T-Mobile MDA Vario III - 8GB SD HC Asus EEE PC 4GB Black 702 - Pimped with 2GB RAM, 16GB SD HC Class 6, Bluetooth. |
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Mar 20 2008, 22:32
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 12th May 2005 Member No.: 128,953 Device(s): MDA Touch Plus |
Hey Paul, drag yourself into this year, its 2008 you know!
 What I'd like to know... is this device really using the VGA resolution, a few year ago I had a IPAQ HX4700 which was VGA, looked great, but Windows Mobile still used the screen space the same, so I didn't really see the benefit till I installed a 3rd party app (SE_VGA I think it was called) . I've not really taken much note of the VGA stuff since then, have things moved on, and more importantly for me, will I get a full 640x480 Remote Desktop on screen at once? This post has been edited by fatbutcher: Mar 20 2008, 22:36 |
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Mar 20 2008, 22:36
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 10 Joined: 9th October 2003 Member No.: 17,933 |
I noticed that the screen orientation change was quite snappy in the unboxing. Can you clarify whether this is the case in normal usage? How does the video capability compare to the kaiser?
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Mar 21 2008, 08:08
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 19,011 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
QUOTE(fatbutcher @ Mar 20 2008, 22:32)  Hey Paul, drag yourself into this year, its 2008 you know! Discovered that when I tried to sync with Exchange. DOH! P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Mar 21 2008, 08:09
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 19,011 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
QUOTE(fatbutcher @ Mar 20 2008, 22:32) Hey Paul, drag yourself into this year, its 2008 you know! What I'd like to know... is this device really using the VGA resolution, a few year ago I had a IPAQ HX4700 which was VGA, looked great, but Windows Mobile still used the screen space the same, so I didn't really see the benefit till I installed a 3rd party app (SE_VGA I think it was called) . I've not really taken much note of the VGA stuff since then, have things moved on, and more importantly for me, will I get a full 640x480 Remote Desktop on screen at once? It's not running 96dpi, so things appear the same size but clearer generally. For remote desktop, browsing etc. tho, it DOES use the full VGA! P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Mar 21 2008, 08:11
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 19,011 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): MDA Vario III |
I'm just flashing to the latest ROM, then I'll report back on video performance etc.!
P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Mar 21 2008, 12:58
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TyTNic ! Group: News Team Posts: 612 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): T-Mobile MDA Vario III |
C'mon ... you've had almost 5 hours !!!! *whipcrack*
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Mar 21 2008, 19:45
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Addict Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 673 Joined: 19th November 2003 From: London - UK Member No.: 21,445 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
QUOTE(Ovie @ Mar 20 2008, 17:47) A weird question, but, do you think the device looks ugly? I'll agree with you on that. It is kinda FUGLY. I don't understand PDA makers. Take the Kaiser, great device only issues IMO are a slightly lacking CPU and no VGA or WVGA screen. E-Ten come along and make the M800, great screen, faster CPU BUT LESS RAM?! They ALWAYS leave something out. I don't get it. It's not that hard. Listen to what the consumers are bitching about, take action BUT DON'T rip anything else out in the process!! |
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Mar 22 2008, 17:00
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 212 Joined: 3rd January 2005 From: Cambridge, UK Member No.: 104,315 Device(s): HTC Touch |
QUOTE(Syphon Filter @ Mar 21 2008, 19:45) I'll agree with you on that. It is kinda FUGLY. I don't understand PDA makers. Take the Kaiser, great device only issues IMO are a slightly lacking CPU and no VGA or WVGA screen. E-Ten come along and make the M800, great screen, faster CPU BUT LESS RAM?! They ALWAYS leave something out. I don't get it. It's not that hard. Listen to what the consumers are bitching about, take action BUT DON'T rip anything else out in the process!! EXACTLY! Why oh why, are there soooooo many devices that are coming out but with only 64mb of RAM! It's just not enough! -------------------- |
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Mar 22 2008, 17:07
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Moderator - Boing! Group: Admin Team Posts: 8,485 Joined: 12th December 2002 From: Guildford, UK Member No.: 993 Device(s): Touch Diamond / MWg Zinc II |
I'm not a fan of the insistance of 64MB RAM either, but I have to say I never really noticed it day-to-day on my Atom Life...
-------------------- This months MoDaCo WinMo Week device: the MWg Zinc II! Ask your questions HERE and download the show here! Visit My Mini City daily to help the population grow - Isildur's Bane! - By clicking HERE! - Every hit counts! 2.25GB of backup storage online for free with Mozy! - https://mozy.com/?ref=VQ664H |
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Mar 22 2008, 21:23
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 212 Joined: 3rd January 2005 From: Cambridge, UK Member No.: 104,315 Device(s): HTC Touch |
I notice it quite a lot on my Trinity, I reckon the killer is trying to do something whilst listening to music!
Hopefully though, it seems that the Sony X1 will address all these issues! -------------------- |
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Mar 23 2008, 14:56
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Moderator - Boing! Group: Admin Team Posts: 8,485 Joined: 12th December 2002 From: Guildford, UK Member No.: 993 Device(s): Touch Diamond / MWg Zinc II |
Hmm i don't use mine for music all that much, but i'd have thought the slowness would have been a CPU limitation rather than a memory one?
-------------------- This months MoDaCo WinMo Week device: the MWg Zinc II! Ask your questions HERE and download the show here! Visit My Mini City daily to help the population grow - Isildur's Bane! - By clicking HERE! - Every hit counts! 2.25GB of backup storage online for free with Mozy! - https://mozy.com/?ref=VQ664H |
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Apr 9 2008, 01:07
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 Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 29 Joined: 5th January 2008 Member No.: 340,880 Device(s): h4150 |
The problem is with 64ram on boot you already have only about 25mb left. Add something like spb mobile shell or pocket plus, calligrapher, it goes down to under 20, very soon it becomes a limitation.
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