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 Aug 8 2008, 00:51
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Regular  Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 78 Joined: 28th May 2008 From: Melbourne Member No.: 392,773 Device(s): HTC TyTN  |
You get a call from a number that's not saved in your contacts and you look @ the screen and wonder, now who could that be? Well according to Privus Mobile gone are those days. With their new Mobile Caller ID application it can display the registered name and number of the calling party, even if they aren't stored locally on your phone contacts. Windows Mobile ( both Professional and Standard ) and Blackberry can run this application and a port to Symbian is on its way. Full-service functionality requires simultaneous voice and data communications to be supported by both the phone and the carrier. QUOTE("Pocketnow.com) Because the service scans its network to search and retrieve the caller name and number, WiFi and 3G will enable both simultaneous voice and data connection to allow the data to be transmitted back. With EDGE, you can still get that data, but it will be available after the call or after the call gets sent to voicemail should you decide not to pickup, providing less utility but still good to know who called without needing to check voicemail or sit and guess. The service is currently available in North America and will expand to European Union countries by the end of the year. A 3-month subscription will cost about $25 while a year-long subscription goes for $90. The rates are high, but the service will be useful to the mobile professional. [Via: Privusmobile] --------------------  ||  |
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Aug 8 2008, 01:18
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 71 Joined: 20th April 2005 Member No.: 124,934 Device(s): MPX220 |
How does it get the name? I looked on the website and it didnt answer that. I can understand if it does a lookup in the telephone directory but mobile phones aren't listed anywhere. I was thinking it may get the name and number only if the other person has the program installed but i cant imagine that'd be the case as it would be crap.
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Aug 8 2008, 02:16
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Regular Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 78 Joined: 28th May 2008 From: Melbourne Member No.: 392,773 Device(s): HTC TyTN |
detailed info on how the application retrieves the contact info is not provided , i coudnt find anything about it on their website.
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Aug 8 2008, 08:43
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 Moderator - Boing!  Group: Admin Team Posts: 8,557 Joined: 12th December 2002 From: Guildford, UK Member No.: 993 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
Unless this is the networks selling their databases of numbers of those who didn't opt out when they signed up, i don't see where they get the info from. Bit of a phishers/social hackers paradise if you can call a random number and get the name associated with it!
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Aug 8 2008, 08:55
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TyTNic !  Group: News Team Posts: 812 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): T-Mobile MDA Vario III |
QUOTE(Monolithix @ Aug 8 2008, 09:43)  Unless this is the networks selling their databases of numbers of those who didn't opt out when they signed up, i don't see where they get the info from. Bit of a phishers/social hackers paradise if you can call a random number and get the name associated with it! Yeah ... "Can I speak to Mr Mono please?" "ummm wtf!" -------------------- --
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Aug 8 2008, 11:27
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 93 Joined: 16th August 2007 Member No.: 289,646 Device(s): HTC TyTN III |
QUOTE(Monolithix @ Aug 8 2008, 09:43) Unless this is the networks selling their databases of numbers of those who didn't opt out when they signed up, i don't see where they get the info from. Bit of a phishers/social hackers paradise if you can call a random number and get the name associated with it! I haven't thought about this too deeply, but wouldn't you have to get the number to call you in order to find out who they are? According to the snippet, it only works on incoming calls, not outgoing. |
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Aug 8 2008, 11:46
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Moderator - Boing! Group: Admin Team Posts: 8,557 Joined: 12th December 2002 From: Guildford, UK Member No.: 993 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
Ah so it is, apologies for getting a bit ahead of myself </big brother paranoia>
 Still, the question does remain as to how they're getting the data...
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Aug 8 2008, 12:23
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 5 Joined: 14th February 2008 Member No.: 356,257 Device(s): At&t Tilt |
Why is the Blackberry fee 24.95 p/yr & the Windows Mobile fee $89.95 p/yr. What exactly is the extra $65 for. ?
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Aug 8 2008, 13:33
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Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 397 Joined: 25th August 2004 Member No.: 54,173 |
Wouldn't it be cheaper to answer the call, and ask "who's calling?"
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Aug 8 2008, 17:46
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 93 Joined: 16th August 2007 Member No.: 289,646 Device(s): HTC TyTN III |
QUOTE(paholman @ Aug 8 2008, 14:33) Wouldn't it be cheaper to answer the call, and ask "who's calling?" Oh, there's always one! 
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Aug 8 2008, 19:00
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 I've always wanted to explore the Pacific rim Group: Posters Posts: 2,305 Joined: 19th January 2003 From: Lincoln Member No.: 2,100 Device(s): MWg Atom, i-mate Smartflip |
Right I have a MwG Atom Life (compatable). When you install it you have a choice to give them your express permission to use your name and mobile number - this, to me, seems how they get their information. If this is correct then it only will show you the name if someone else has installed it and allowed them to use your name and number. If this is the case then it is one sh1te application. If I am wrong I will withdraw the comment.
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Aug 9 2008, 08:04
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Regular Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 78 Joined: 28th May 2008 From: Melbourne Member No.: 392,773 Device(s): HTC TyTN |
QUOTE(paholman @ Aug 8 2008, 23:33) Wouldn't it be cheaper to answer the call, and ask "who's calling?" true, u dont pay anything just pick up and ask who it is. Rogers ( Canadian Provider ) apparently has this feature , I remember reading about it on xda-dev. -------------------- || |
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Aug 9 2008, 09:00
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 62 Joined: 15th February 2004 Member No.: 32,500 Device(s): S730 |
QUOTE(PPCInformer @ Aug 9 2008, 08:04) true, u dont pay anything just pick up and ask who it is. Rogers ( Canadian Provider ) apparently has this feature , I remember reading about it on xda-dev. From a slightly ancient FAQ at http://www.ainslie.org.uk/callerid/cli_faq.htm: The original specs for Caller ID allow for the name of the caller to be sent as well as the number. This service is widespread in North America, whereas BT got as far as a small trial, in Edinburgh I think, and then quietly dropped the whole idea citing "privacy problems". The only bulk method for getting caller names would be to do a reverse lookup of numbers in the published phone directories. This is legal in N America but not UK or Ireland, so I can't see this service being of much use here. |
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Aug 9 2008, 10:14
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 93 Joined: 16th August 2007 Member No.: 289,646 Device(s): HTC TyTN III |
QUOTE(madferret @ Aug 9 2008, 10:00) From a slightly ancient FAQ at http://www.ainslie.org.uk/callerid/cli_faq.htm: The original specs for Caller ID allow for the name of the caller to be sent as well as the number. This service is widespread in North America, whereas BT got as far as a small trial, in Edinburgh I think, and then quietly dropped the whole idea citing "privacy problems". The only bulk method for getting caller names would be to do a reverse lookup of numbers in the published phone directories. This is legal in N America but not UK or Ireland, so I can't see this service being of much use here. Hmm... one thing an app could usefully do is quickly Google the incoming number, and display a short summary of the first couple of hits. Not necessarily very neat, but it would give you a rough idea in many cases if it's a spam call. Obviously the app wouldn't do the search if the number were already in your own local contacts list. |
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Aug 10 2008, 16:01
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I've always wanted to explore the Pacific rim Group: Posters Posts: 2,305 Joined: 19th January 2003 From: Lincoln Member No.: 2,100 Device(s): MWg Atom, i-mate Smartflip |
Has no one else tried this yet??? There is a three day free trial.
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Aug 11 2008, 01:55
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 5 Joined: 14th February 2008 Member No.: 356,257 Device(s): At&t Tilt |
QUOTE(mcwarre @ Aug 10 2008, 11:01) Has no one else tried this yet??? There is a three day free trial. I started a free trial to day,and it does seem to be working. I had one number that showed up as "brown bear", but the rest were accurate. |
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Aug 11 2008, 02:36
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Regular Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 78 Joined: 28th May 2008 From: Melbourne Member No.: 392,773 Device(s): HTC TyTN |
QUOTE(Kots85 @ Aug 11 2008, 11:55) I started a free trial to day,and it does seem to be working. I had one number that showed up as "brown bear", but the rest were accurate. " Brown Bear " now who could that be , It sounds like a prison name.In some countries , there is a service called reverse number lookup ( mostly for Fixed line ) and i am assuming there might be a Mobile phone Reverse number lookup Database. This might be illegal in certain counties ! -------------------- || |
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Aug 11 2008, 21:54
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 5 Joined: 14th February 2008 Member No.: 356,257 Device(s): At&t Tilt |
QUOTE(PPCInformer @ Aug 10 2008, 21:36) " Brown Bear " now who could that be , It sounds like a prison name.In some countries , there is a service called reverse number lookup ( mostly for Fixed line ) and i am assuming there might be a Mobile phone Reverse number lookup Database. This might be illegal in certain counties ! I thought it was hilarious. The call was from my best friend, his employer has multiple phone lines with un-lised numbers. This post has been edited by Kots85: Aug 11 2008, 21:57 |
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