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 Ringtone delay
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post Sep 4 2008, 18:48
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hi guys anyone might to solve the delay ringtone problem.

i tried change the value of the control panel/ringtone value from 3 to 0 but i'm still having the delay.
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post Sep 11 2008, 20:04
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QUOTE(helmetbox! @ Sep 4 2008, 19:48) *
hi guys anyone might to solve the delay ringtone problem.

i tried change the value of the control panel/ringtone value from 3 to 0 but i'm still having the delay.


Im having this problem and have searched a number of websites but to no avail. Is there anyone out there in Omnia land who has solved this problem. Many thanks smile.gif
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post Sep 11 2008, 20:50
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Is it that slight delay where the first tone is about half the usual ring?
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post Sep 11 2008, 21:22
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mine ring begin with low volume then turn into high volume too~~
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post Sep 12 2008, 07:57
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post Sep 12 2008, 12:10
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Ok I have just been on to Samsung customer services and am confused with the information I have been given about this problem. They have told me that the delay in sound on the ringtone is because the phone is built this way to protect the speaker? It takes 2 to 3 seconds for the phone to evaluate the ringtone volume before it sets it at normal, they say this is done so it doesnt blow out the speaker???? Im a noob but this seems ridiculous. Why doesnt it just set every ringtone at a normal volume from the start??

Is there somebody out there with a bit more knowledge than me, advise is there reason.... reasonable??

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post Sep 12 2008, 12:44
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Does not sound quite true to me.
If ringtone volumes can be set then why would the device decide what was best for you?
If the speaker was not designed for loud volumes then is could be altered to restrict the max output.
Real time ring volume monitoring? don't think so.


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post Sep 12 2008, 13:45
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Yes thats what I thought too.

Can anyone on here advise if an mp3 ringtone they have actually works correctly without the delay.

I basically think I have been fobbed off by Samsung mad.gif
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post Sep 12 2008, 13:54
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The very same thing happens with my Samsung i600 running WM5, maybe it's the same with all their devices?
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post Sep 12 2008, 13:57
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I thought this was a WM thing not necessarially device specific.

For every WM phone that I have had at least, it takes 2-3 rings before I hear a ringtone. And even then, when I click on answer, it doesnt do it for about 2-3 seconds, which can be a pain when its just before it goes to voicemail.

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post Sep 15 2008, 00:26
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QUOTE(deadphill @ Sep 12 2008, 14:57) *
I thought this was a WM thing not necessarially device specific.

For every WM phone that I have had at least, it takes 2-3 rings before I hear a ringtone. And even then, when I click on answer, it doesnt do it for about 2-3 seconds, which can be a pain when its just before it goes to voicemail.

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I never had this problem with a C500 or C550 hence why I thought it might be device specific unsure.gif
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post Sep 15 2008, 08:22
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After many tweaks to my Titan I had it it ringing by the first ring that callers heard. Also, by disabling the dialer skin, it would response to the talk button almost immediately.
However on this phone I was able to set the Cell Tower Polling frequency, I do not know how to do that on GSM devices.

I currently have my Omnia's ring script set to av1pr, which causes a vibrate for 1s before the ring. The first ring is unchanced in volume (starts out quiest then gets louder) so I don't think that it the excuse provided holds water.
Some things that I plan to try:
- Is it AT&T? I wonder if there is a way to check on another network with someone else sim card.
- Is it searching through too many contacts to find what to display? I may try deleting them all to see if there is a difference?
- Do personalized ring tones make a difference? How about pictures?
- Is there a way to disable these? or to defer the check until after the first ring?
- Is there a way to change the number of rings prior to voicemail?
- Are raw Waves faster than Mp3?
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post Sep 16 2008, 12:28
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Hullo,
I have bought a HTC Diamond for my wife ( it stucks sometime, never respond and needs to be resetted, and some applications are not so userfriendly etc and we will buy an Omnia smile.gif ) and it has the same operating system u know; 6.1... The delaying of the ringtone is one of its bugs too. Maybe its the problem of the WM6.1..? Any suggestions?
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post Sep 16 2008, 18:18
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Most of the optimizations that I found I have only been able to do on the Titan where I can control Cell Tower polling frequences.
Three helpful ones, each has its compromises;
- Short fast ringtone. Preferably .wav or a Mp3 <= 40k in size
- Disable phone canvas (default loads fastest)
- use av1pr as your ringtone script. Or apv1r. One vibrates first, the other rings first. They both have some latency.
Disabling pushmail may help.
Activesync disconnect when done =1 may help.
Ensure to close all apps in the task manager when you are idle.
remove services that you don't need.

With all of these settings my phone was immediate on my titan, but I have not been able to reproduce on Omnia. Still, my response times improved to they point that I am 1-2 seconds behind. (I think that the default polling frequency is betwee 2.5 s to 5 s. On my titan I could set it to 1 second.)



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post Sep 16 2008, 18:47
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As pidsw suggests, the size and format of the ringtone can make a big difference, with all WM devices.

The quickest to respond is a WAV file of less than 50KB, which the OS plays natively; MP3 and WMA ringtones need to fire up the Windows Media Player kernel in the background to play the file, and this takes a finite time; WMP also buffers a certain amount of the file, so a larger file will see a longer delay.

Thiose of you seeing a delay might like to experiment with a small WAV file to see if this makes any difference smile.gif


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post Sep 25 2008, 13:06
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try this dudes

HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0
edit "Script" value to av0pr
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post Sep 25 2008, 15:47
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QUOTE(lastnikita @ Sep 25 2008, 13:06) *
try this dudes

HKCU\ControlPanel\Sounds\RingTone0
edit "Script" value to av0pr


I tired that and it made no difference sad.gif
I did a soft reset too to make sure
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post Sep 26 2008, 03:35
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QUOTE(3shirts @ Sep 25 2008, 22:47) *
I tired that and it made no difference sad.gif
I did a soft reset too to make sure


I've tried this too with no luck.
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post Sep 27 2008, 13:50
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QUOTE(Laruku Jr. @ Sep 26 2008, 04:35) *
I've tried this too with no luck.



All,

I have been using Windows Mobile devices for years and I'm afraid that this "feature" is a Windows Mobile thing as all the phones I have had are the same.

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