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 Aug 30 2003, 13:15
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i recently saw this "photographer" program that enables the camera of the Nokia 3650 to zoom digitally.
does anyone know if such a program will be released for the smartphone :?: |
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Aug 31 2003, 01:19
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 78 Joined: 9th June 2003 Member No.: 7,699 |
QUOTE i recently saw this "photographer" program that enables the camera of the Nokia 3650 to zoom digitally.
does anyone know if such a program will be released for the smartphone :?: The 8380 has digital zoom built into their app. Digital zoom is ugly. better just to snap it without zoom and digital zoom it in photoshop. -------------------- Terwin
Mitac Mio 8380 |
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Sep 1 2003, 04:28
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 190 Joined: 9th June 2003 From: Quezon City, Philippines Member No.: 7,717 |
QUOTE Digital zoom is ugly. I beg to disagree. I saw an actual demo of how the "Photographer" application works...it surely does look pixelized in the preview screen during the shoot, but when you get to see the actual image, it's crisp and clear. |
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Sep 1 2003, 09:19
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 Staff Team Leader  Group: Admin Team Posts: 17,188 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 53 Device(s): C550 and JasJar |
Digital zoom is never a good thing as you will always sacrifice quality by the very nature
of digital zooming without any optical help. So you may start off with 640x480 but arter zooming you will have say 240x320 etc. -------------------- 3 mobile where the words "customer" and "service" only exists in the dictionary
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Sep 2 2003, 06:18
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 190 Joined: 9th June 2003 From: Quezon City, Philippines Member No.: 7,717 |
attached herewith are samples of images taken using a 3650 camera loaded with the "Photographer" application...
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03-09-02(1).jpg ( 46.17K )
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03-09-02(2).jpg ( 45.57K )
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03-09-02(3).jpg ( 41.34K )
Number of downloads: 911 |
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Sep 15 2003, 21:39
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 Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 2,098 Joined: 4th December 2002 From: Kiev UA Member No.: 702 Device(s): E100 |
This is indeed pretty good for a digital zoom on a PHONE! Bring on the Photographer SPV Edition
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Sep 18 2003, 20:42
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 190 Joined: 9th June 2003 From: Quezon City, Philippines Member No.: 7,717 |
QUOTE This is indeed pretty good for a digital zoom on a PHONE! Bring on the Photographer SPV Edition at last...*sigh of relief*...a concurring opinion! 
cheers madu :wink: |
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Sep 25 2003, 13:14
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well i'll be f**** :shock:
i was a "photoshop it"-follower, so i took the first image and blew it up to 400% (which means 16x, i think) and it doesn't look as good. even sharpening it didn't help.
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Sep 25 2003, 13:34
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Addict  Group: Posters Posts: 698 Joined: 6th March 2003 From: Denmark Member No.: 3,288 |
I dont see how this even can be possible?
You're sure you didn't move the camera any closer in the close-ups? 'couse i can't see how digital-zoom could do bether that photoshop? -------------------- Check out 4Smartphone.dk - For everything you need to know about MS Smartphones
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Sep 25 2003, 18:46
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 190 Joined: 9th June 2003 From: Quezon City, Philippines Member No.: 7,717 |
[quote]I dont see how this even can be possible?
You're sure you didn't move the camera Affirmative... No tricks here mate. I wouldn't even go out of my way to do such desperate act because I'm not trying to sell any product here. I'm just hoping that this application would be made available to SmartPhone users. :wink: |
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Oct 1 2003, 14:56
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 23 Joined: 30th September 2003 From: Herts - UK Member No.: 17,215 |
bring on the SPV version.
I hope they get cracking on it soon 
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Oct 1 2003, 17:13
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 2 Joined: 18th March 2003 From: Salford, UK Member No.: 3,561 |
The photoshop version probably looks worse as it's trying to expand an already compressed image which has already lost some fine detail, while the Photographer app is more than likely working directly on the uncompressed image.
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Oct 1 2003, 23:28
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Staff Team Leader Group: Admin Team Posts: 17,188 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 53 Device(s): C550 and JasJar |
Going by the size of each file it seems strange that the image
is managing to keep the samesimilar resolution when zooming in :? Now I would like to know how that is achived with a fixed lens ? -------------------- 3 mobile where the words "customer" and "service" only exists in the dictionary
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Oct 2 2003, 11:55
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just some guy, you know... Group: Posters Posts: 1,628 Joined: 29th November 2002 From: London, New Zealand Member No.: 271 Device(s): HTC Diamond |
One question, when you took the photo's at like 16x zoom, did the photo take longer to take? like if you took a 1x photo while moving the camera and a 16x photo while moving the camera, does the 16x one have more motion blur/ look horrible?
One thing their app may being doing is capturing several successive frames from the camera and feeding these into their zoom algorythms... Otherwise they've just got a very good expansion algorithm and the advantage of doing it off raw pixels rather than compressed images... -------------------- Like a monkey ready to be shot off into space. Spacemonkey. Ready to sacrifice himself for the greater good.
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Oct 2 2003, 12:21
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 23 Joined: 30th September 2003 From: Herts - UK Member No.: 17,215 |
QUOTE Going by the size of each file it seems strange that the image is managing to keep the samesimilar resolution when zooming in :? Now I would like to know how that is achived with a fixed lens ? Photoshop can do an equally good job when you have an uncompressed image to work with, eg. raw pixels. Its unfair to compare this with pshop since you are feeding pshop some crappy JPG whereas the app works with the raw output. Also, look more carefully - there is a fair bit of pixellation, although this app does seem to do a great job
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Oct 2 2003, 14:08
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My favourite function in Photographer is the Panoramic view mode. That would would be nice on an SPV also.
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Oct 2 2003, 21:31
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 190 Joined: 9th June 2003 From: Quezon City, Philippines Member No.: 7,717 |
QUOTE My favourite function in Photographer is the Panoramic view mode. That would would be nice on an SPV also. I didn't get the chance to check that feature out...care to post an image of the "panoramic view" :?:
QUOTE One question, when you took the photo's at like 16x zoom, did the photo take longer to take? i would say it took longer for the mobilephone to process the (16x) image compared to the others (normal, 1x, 2x, etc)...and in the preview screen, it looked horribly pixelized (different from the actual image stored by the phone).
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