Orange scupper Smartphone gamers with the E200 |
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 Nov 24 2003, 14:01
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 The Main Man  Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,027 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage  |
Breaking News:
The SPV E200, Orange's new flagship Smartphone device, is constrained with a 4 directional joystick, as opposed to the 8 way controller featured on the original SPV and SPV E100. This is terrible news for gamers, as the 8 way controller is quite simply vital for a large number of games. Our readers have already confirmed that xRick Dangerous is unplayable, Total Soccer suffers from having no diagonal movements, and further posts are reporting similar issues. In addition, development of the eagerly anticipated fighter 'Kumite' has been postponed for the E200 device, with development continuing only for other handsets. More information on this story as we get it...  -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:12
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Addict  Group: Posters Posts: 602 Joined: 17th July 2003 From: Walsall, UK Member No.: 10,261 |
nice one orange :roll:
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Nov 24 2003, 14:15
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Addict Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 744 Joined: 19th November 2003 From: London - UK Member No.: 21,445 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
its silly of them to have done this but can keys not be remapped to say the keypad instead of the stick, ie using 1,3,7 and 9 for the diagonals? Is this perhaps the excuse to switch to the P900 i was looking for??
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Nov 24 2003, 14:15
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Labrador  Group: Posters Posts: 91 Joined: 27th November 2002 Member No.: 155 |
Please say this is not true! I've not got a E200 yet... but gaming would have been one of the priorities!
Is there any chance it could be a software issue meaning that the s/w is not recognising diagonal movement? |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:16
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 It makes calls too!? Group: Posters Posts: 136 Joined: 12th April 2003 Member No.: 4,598 Device(s): M5000! It's Ace! |
Yes, I noticed this also. Mini Super Bike is uplayable. I can live without an eightway joystick, but it is baffling that orange appears to have taken this step backwards whilst gaming. Im sure it makes navigating menus easier though.
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Nov 24 2003, 14:18
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 Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 212 Joined: 4th September 2003 Member No.: 15,057 |
Actually, the original joystick is 9 way. 8 ways + push it in, or "action button".
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Nov 24 2003, 14:21
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 SpinDoctorBlow Group: Posters Posts: 2,765 Joined: 25th February 2003 From: Edinburgh, UK Member No.: 3,060 |
Seems that (suprise, suprise, Cilla!!) Orange have not really thought it thru!
I'm thinkjing about upgrading to the e200 - but with the amount of complaints about it so far (only after 1 week) I'm now reconsidering!! -------------------- "... time is an illusion ... lunchtime doubly so ..."
http://monosapiens.9f.com |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:24
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 Staff Team Leader Group: Admin Team Posts: 17,188 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 53 Device(s): C550 and JasJar |
Looks like I'll be going for the MXP200 then :?
-------------------- 3 mobile where the words "customer" and "service" only exists in the dictionary
Smartphone and PocketPC History SPV, E100, E200, C500, C550, C600 (MoDaCo Edition), MPX200, MPX220, MIO8380, Voq Pro, Lobster 700, JasJar, Vario  New and updated Smartphone History Life's too fast can I get off and walk for a bit? I used to be top poster....... |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:25
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 Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,065 Joined: 27th December 2002 From: Norwich (ish) Member No.: 1,434 |
took quite a while to notice this rather huge bug didnt it.
Glad i didnt jump and buy a E200 now although i think the improvements outweigh this loss (although i dont play many games on my SPV) shame on orange for screwing over developers and not telling them of this change ](*,) =D> -------------------- Lifes nothin but bitches and money
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Nov 24 2003, 14:28
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 Addict Group: Posters Posts: 572 Joined: 17th December 2002 Member No.: 1,170 |
Let me get this straight first, As far as I know no digital joystick/pad has eight switches, they have 4 and make a diagonal out of 2 switches, i.e. up and right together to give diagonal up/right?. So are you saying that the stick on e200 can't make the 2 switches together? or that the phone software is not acepting a signal from 2 switches made together?. If the later is the case an update should be able to sort it. If the stick can't phisically make 2 switches together then obviously we are screwed.
Hope I haven't got that completely wrong :oops: Kevlar -------------------- |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:31
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 Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 3,685 Joined: 27th January 2003 Member No.: 2,344 |
whats amusing is it affects Rebound, the game that comes with the e200
-------------------- Alien Invention - home of Eclipse: First Wave and Kumite
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Nov 24 2003, 14:31
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,027 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
We are trying to clarify at the moment...
The software definitely isn't receiving the two at once (despite the fact it can detect the two soft keys together no problem)... P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:32
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 Regular Group: Posters Posts: 100 Joined: 29th November 2002 From: Bristol, UK Member No.: 283 |
Oh dear.. i really don't know what to say. :roll: They really have scuppered a lot of peoples hopes for this phone...
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Nov 24 2003, 14:34
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 572 Joined: 17th December 2002 Member No.: 1,170 |
Right. Who's going to be the first to open their e200 to check? :?
Kevlar -------------------- |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:34
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 3,685 Joined: 27th January 2003 Member No.: 2,344 |
8 way is just a term used for pushing a joystick in 8 directions, meaning that if you had a character on screen you can move in 8 directions aswell. We are running tests to see if its hardware or software thats at fault.
It does affect a lot of games though, beatemups, shooters, rpg's, footy games the list goes on 
-------------------- Alien Invention - home of Eclipse: First Wave and Kumite
Midnight SP! Smartphone Registry Tweaks and Voice Themes irc.monolithix.org #smartphone (come and have a chat ) My Gadgets Gallery |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:42
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 Addict Group: Posters Posts: 700 Joined: 19th December 2002 From: Oxford Member No.: 1,263 |
Yay for MPX200 funness..
Something to be addressed for the SPV E220? -------------------- "If you can't control your peanut butter, you can't expect to control your life." - Calvin
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Nov 24 2003, 14:44
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 Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 486 Joined: 24th February 2003 From: Vizag, India Member No.: 3,022 |
Huh? My Congratuations to the Orange/HTC team that tested this phone. What a bunch of jokers !!
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Nov 24 2003, 14:48
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Addict Group: Posters Posts: 572 Joined: 17th December 2002 Member No.: 1,170 |
Testing?, what is this testing you speak about?
Wait till msmobiles gets hold of this!! Kevlar -------------------- |
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Nov 24 2003, 14:58
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 Addict Group: Posters Posts: 569 Joined: 16th December 2002 Member No.: 1,113 |
It's just not all that good is it...the whole E200 package :!: Ok, so it does have lots of things that work...AS THEY DAMN WELL SHOULD DO :!: :!: ...there's just too many things which don't work, or don't work well enough to be enjoyable. My decision is now made; I WON'T be buying E200, not until the dust settles and(IF??) many of the raised issues are addressed by Orange/MS/HTC. Such a pity, they really should have done better. Missed oppurtunity :?
-------------------- FrankyG
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Nov 24 2003, 15:01
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Labrador Group: Posters Posts: 91 Joined: 27th November 2002 Member No.: 155 |
Another thing to note about the E200 package is that it does not include the carry case that came with earlier SPV's, that's nearly as bad as the D-pad thing
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