Remote Tracker for Pocket PC devices, It survives a hard reset, and is free! |
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 Jul 23 2008, 10:34
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 Come on you Horns!  Group: News Team Posts: 409 Joined: 22nd May 2004 From: Wheathampstead Member No.: 44,098 Device(s): T-Mobile Vario 3  |
 Created for the continued line of devices with GPS built in (Artemis, Kaiser, Diamond etc.) its a neat little application that will track your device using gps and using the program, will text an alternative number details of its location. Now I have seen programs like this before, and have always thought them lacking due to the fact that all that needed to be done was a hard reset, however this is reported to survive a hard reset using certain registry values. I'm not certain what they are but unless a thief is cunning enough to steal a windows mobile device, and then to subsequently be able to hard reset the device, and then know that it has this application on it, then I think there might be a good chance that this could work. I have not tried it yet, as I am trying to get my device ready for repair, but I will be installing this when my Kaiser is ready. Hell I might even install it on my fiancée's Diamond just to freak her out once or twice, though I am not advocating for this program to be used just to spy on people! Whatever your needs/usage for this application may be, more information can be found using the link above, or to just download the program follow the link here. Don't forget to list your first impressions, problems, general opinions in the topic thread. And best of all, don't forget, its FREE!!!! Cheers Phill -------------------- www.watfordfc.com
www.thehornets.net |
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Jul 23 2008, 10:36
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 The Main Man  Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,431 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
If it can survive a hard reset, i'm definitely interested!
/me looks  P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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Jul 23 2008, 10:46
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Come on you Horns! Group: News Team Posts: 409 Joined: 22nd May 2004 From: Wheathampstead Member No.: 44,098 Device(s): T-Mobile Vario 3 |
Exactly what I have been waiting for. I always thought programs of this nature were floored as a hard reset just erases the program, but if this can survive it, its got to be worth considering.
If it does work, I think you might be having to update your list of great free apps for kaiser, artemis, diamond etc! Cheers Phill -------------------- www.watfordfc.com
www.thehornets.net |
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Jul 23 2008, 10:46
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 96 Joined: 16th August 2007 Member No.: 289,646 Device(s): HTC TyTN III |
From the description, you have to cook a ROM in order to make this hard-reset proof. Which makes sense to me!
No idea how you actually go about doing that though. QUOTE Now, RTRegCreate tool can create a configuration file using your PC. ROM cookers can use this DLL to make RT hard reset safe!
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Jul 23 2008, 11:03
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Come on you Horns! Group: News Team Posts: 409 Joined: 22nd May 2004 From: Wheathampstead Member No.: 44,098 Device(s): T-Mobile Vario 3 |
I'm sure that there will be a solution to this quite quickly! And when there is, it has the potential to be great!
Cheers Phill -------------------- www.watfordfc.com
www.thehornets.net |
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Jul 23 2008, 11:33
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TyTNic !  Group: News Team Posts: 937 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
/me shouts TLR !!!
Time to get that apron on, and get cooking! -------------------- --
My Toys: Omnia: Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia - 8GB SD HC TyTNic T-Mobile MDA Vario III - Dutty's Diamond Rom V1.0 wEEEbeastie Asus EEE PC 4GB Black 702 - Pimped with 2GB RAM, 16GB SD HC Class 6, Bluetooth. O-SeXy Advent 4211 - 2GB Ram - 250GB HDD - Running OSX Leopard like a dream! Doris She has bewbs! (Not her real name tho!) |
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Jul 23 2008, 13:11
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 68 Joined: 4th April 2006 Member No.: 182,550 Device(s): VOX (E650) |
QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Jul 23 2008, 12:33)  /me shouts TLR !!! Time to get that apron on, and get cooking! i have been looking for a piece of sofware like this for a while, but i cant find any info in the documentation about removing this app should decide you no longer want/need it. Alot of this type of software is designed to be hard to remove, im reluctant to install this before i know if im going to have difficulty removing it at a later date |
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Jul 23 2008, 13:18
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Come on you Horns! Group: News Team Posts: 409 Joined: 22nd May 2004 From: Wheathampstead Member No.: 44,098 Device(s): T-Mobile Vario 3 |
From the sound of it mate, all you need to do is flash it with another ROM.
Reports are suggesting it is built into a cooked ROM. So just find yourself a cooked ROM without this in it. Cheers Phill -------------------- www.watfordfc.com
www.thehornets.net |
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Jul 23 2008, 14:05
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TyTNic ! Group: News Team Posts: 937 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
Devils advocate for a second ...
Supposing your Kaiser were nicked ... and you found out where it was ... would you actually go and knock on the door and say "Oi gimme my phone back?" The police are able to track phones via triangulating the signal, and yet will only do it in cases of child abduction/kidnapping. A mate recently was burgled, and she knew exactly whom it was, and they took her mobile. The police wouldn't triangulate the signal to even give them due cause to get a warrant for the persons property for a search! pathetic! -------------------- --
My Toys: Omnia: Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia - 8GB SD HC TyTNic T-Mobile MDA Vario III - Dutty's Diamond Rom V1.0 wEEEbeastie Asus EEE PC 4GB Black 702 - Pimped with 2GB RAM, 16GB SD HC Class 6, Bluetooth. O-SeXy Advent 4211 - 2GB Ram - 250GB HDD - Running OSX Leopard like a dream! Doris She has bewbs! (Not her real name tho!) |
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Jul 23 2008, 15:38
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Come on you Horns! Group: News Team Posts: 409 Joined: 22nd May 2004 From: Wheathampstead Member No.: 44,098 Device(s): T-Mobile Vario 3 |
That's of course if you get the police involved......
Who's to say you don't have an army of hoodies backing you up when you go to get your phone back I would imagine the amount of work the police have to do to get the triangulation is so hard for them to do, they see it as not worth doing. Either that or they don't do it because there are certain guidelines each force has to adhere to. I work on the lantern project, which is mobile fingerprint taking using windows mobile devices and a GPRS card to identify people when the police are out and about, saving them time from having to arrest a person and then take their prints at the station to determine their identity, and I don't think they even use triangulation on these devices to find out where they are! Cheers Phill -------------------- www.watfordfc.com
www.thehornets.net |
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Jul 23 2008, 15:45
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TyTNic ! Group: News Team Posts: 937 Joined: 26th November 2007 From: Right Here, Right Now! Member No.: 326,361 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia |
lantern project ... sounds cool ... but also sounds very EDS !
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My Toys: Omnia: Samsung SGH-i900 Omnia - 8GB SD HC TyTNic T-Mobile MDA Vario III - Dutty's Diamond Rom V1.0 wEEEbeastie Asus EEE PC 4GB Black 702 - Pimped with 2GB RAM, 16GB SD HC Class 6, Bluetooth. O-SeXy Advent 4211 - 2GB Ram - 250GB HDD - Running OSX Leopard like a dream! Doris She has bewbs! (Not her real name tho!) |
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Jul 23 2008, 15:55
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Come on you Horns! Group: News Team Posts: 409 Joined: 22nd May 2004 From: Wheathampstead Member No.: 44,098 Device(s): T-Mobile Vario 3 |
Oh how wrong we are!!!
Its part of the Ident1 project. That is run by Northrop Grumman. I work for a company called Phoenix IT who the hardware side of the contract is sub-contracted to. It might not be of surprise that as the resident Windows mobile fan, Lantern is kind of my baby, so far as maintaining it is concerned. One day I hope to be able to bring along a lantern for display if we ever have another Modaco meet. Until then.... Cheers Phill -------------------- www.watfordfc.com
www.thehornets.net |
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Jul 23 2008, 16:16
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 138 Joined: 18th August 2004 From: Reading, UK Member No.: 53,278 Device(s): MDA Compact IV |
The thing is, most people would just turn the device on and use whatever sim in it as it would be at the least cost to them. Not many people know how to do hard resets on these devices.
So my question is, are there many programs out there that use the GPS to find out the location and then send an SMS/email once a device is turned on? Or is this the only one? Does this send emails as well as SMSs? |
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Jul 23 2008, 16:17
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 50 Joined: 6th January 2008 Member No.: 341,481 Device(s): iPaq HW6915 |
Have to say, this program is awesome. I helped test this piece of software, and after multiple builds of some GPS errors, the author fixed it.
Its got a wealth of features that similar software doesnt have (such as being able to get phone book, call logs, call recordings). Developer is also very active, and extremely open to suggestions, so if theres not something in there that youd like to see, he'd love to hear from you. Topic on XDA is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=394203. Big props to the author. And how the software survived a hard reset: The regcreate tool makes a dll file, that can be launched when the device starts up for the first time, the file has all the config in it, so things such as the number any command should be sent to is kept. Mike. EDIT: QUOTE The thing is, most people would just turn the device on and use whatever sim in it as it would be at the least cost to them. Not many people know how to do hard resets on these devices. So my question is, are there many programs out there that use the GPS to find out the location and then send an SMS/email once a device is turned on? Or is this the only one? Does this send emails as well as SMSs? The program can do both SMS and email, although currently to only 1 recipient for each. This post has been edited by Mike1002: Jul 23 2008, 16:19 |
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Jul 23 2008, 16:21
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 Regular Group: Posters Posts: 145 Joined: 1st June 2004 From: Southampton Member No.: 45,166 |
QUOTE(WearTheFoxHat @ Jul 23 2008, 15:05) Devils advocate for a second ... Supposing your Kaiser were nicked ... and you found out where it was ... would you actually go and knock on the door and say "Oi gimme my phone back?" The police are able to track phones via triangulating the signal, and yet will only do it in cases of child abduction/kidnapping. A mate recently was burgled, and she knew exactly whom it was, and they took her mobile. The police wouldn't triangulate the signal to even give them due cause to get a warrant for the persons property for a search! pathetic! Actually, its because the mobile networks wont supply that kind of info to the Police unless its a life and death matter. Quite right too. How would you like the Police to be able to track everyone that had a mobile phone in their pocket? Think about it.... -------------------- Now using a Vario 3 on Web 'n Walk Pro
Previously an MPX200, a C500 an SDA2, Imate Jam and a Tytn. Vario 3 is the dogs! |
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Jul 23 2008, 16:24
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 Peanut Brain Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 6,258 Joined: 10th September 2004 From: Surrey, England Member No.: 56,072 Device(s): Athena, Qtek 8500 |
QUOTE(Mike1002 @ Jul 23 2008, 17:17) Developer is also very active, and extremely open to suggestions, I miss read that as "Developer is also very attractive, and extremely open to suggestions," which got me a bit confused 
-------------------- He who asks a question looks foolish for 5 minutes. He who doesn't ask a question remains foolish forever.
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Jul 23 2008, 17:44
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 138 Joined: 18th August 2004 From: Reading, UK Member No.: 53,278 Device(s): MDA Compact IV |
Well i tried to install it on my stock tmobile diamond rom and it failed due to .net! I guess my rom doesnt have the right version installed.
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Jul 23 2008, 23:48
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 Editor Dude Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,712 Joined: 23rd April 2003 From: Leicester, UK Member No.: 4,973 Device(s): SPV M700 / E650 |
QUOTE(Confucious @ Jul 23 2008, 17:24) I miss read that as "Developer is also very attractive, and extremely open to suggestions," which got me a bit confused lmao! -------------------- |
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Jul 24 2008, 06:17
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 68 Joined: 4th April 2006 Member No.: 182,550 Device(s): VOX (E650) |
I been playing around with this software since yesterday and it works very well
changing the sim sent the alert to my other phone with the new number so i could send commands, all of which seem to work fine. Only problem i found is getting results via e-mail instead of sms, i dont get them untill my phone does a send/recieve email (every 2 hours) have to wait a few more days to see what the effect on battery life (if any) is going to be excellent software |
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Jul 28 2008, 14:44
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 Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 7 Joined: 10th April 2008 Member No.: 377,343 Device(s): ETEN X800 |
Hi people!
I'm the author of this small project and I found this thread unintentionally. I'm very happy with all comments  I must confirm an information that some users already have reached: RT does not survive after a hard reset. It should be a miracle But, I made a solution for ROM cookers. RT can be safe after a hard reset, but it must be cooked inside a new custom ROM. The difference from others solutions is the tool called RTRegCreate you can use to make a DLL with the configurations you need.All configurations are encrypted and stored in registry. You should be able to add these settings without any help. Just copy the RT registry to your new ROM. My idea with RTRegCreate is make this step easier. There is a lot of solutions like RT available. So, why I'm writting another one? At first I need to learn C# And I didn't find any free solution good enough for my two needs:1 - Get the phone back; 2 - If first goal was not possible, get your informations back. I have a long way to go yet, I'm just in the beginning. Please let me know everything you think about this project. This project must be participative. Cheers, Joubert -------------------- Joubert Vasconcelos
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