Paul Reviews... The Q-Starz BT-Q810 GPS, Q-Starz BT-Q810 GPS Review |
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 The Main Man!  Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,816 Favorited Topics: 50 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulatmodaco  |
Introduction
 Regular readers of MoDaCo may know that, prior to working full time on MoDaCo, I worked as a technical lead for a large UK company on a huge Telematics project. For this reason, my interest, nay enthusiasm, nay OBSESSION with GPS goes back a fair few years. I remember how we discussed GPS and how, in a few years time, it would become a true consumer technology with commoditised hardware. Well, I think you'll agree that time is now here. With the rise and rise of PND (Portable Navigation Devices), the huge availability of Bluetooth GPS units and the trend towards integration of GPS into mobile devices (which we are just starting to see), GPS will become more and more a part of people's everyday lives. Selecting a GPS solution to partner your mobile device isn't the easiest task in the world, simply due to the huge amount of devices available with a wide range of prices. Today, i'm reviewing the BT-Q810 GPS from a new player in the market, Q-Starz... and I will be following this review over the coming weeks and months with similar evaluations of hardware from other suppliers. Buying the Q-Starz BT-Q810   In the UK, the appointed reseller for the device is TechGlobe, however the device is yet to be listed on their site. In the USA, the Q-Starz BT-Q810 is resold by Semsonsas the i-Blue 737, retailing at $89.99 at time of writing including a free vent mount - more details. Semsons ship worldwide, and come highly recommended. Unboxing the Q-Starz BT-Q810 The GPS unit ships in a smart, compact box proudly displaying the device through a clear window, and emblazoned with the various features of the unit  Included in the box you will find...
 Although no software is included in the box, PC and Pocket PC test applications are available from the Q-Starz download page. Hardware Let's talk about the exterior of the device first. The device has a predominantly grey exterior finish, with the exception of the black branded panel on the top. The device is made from a smooth almost metallic looking plastic, and feels extremely light. Even with the battery in place, our tests showed the device weighed in at a paltry 66g.   Below the black panel on the top of the GPS sit 3 LEDs. The top LED is coloured Orange, and is used to indicate the current fix status. The left LED indicates bluetooth status, and the right LED indicates charging / battery status. Sadly, the LEDs are somewhat bright and flash when in use - not great when using the device in a car at night for example - i'd love to see a way to disable the LEDs altogether, or at the very least stop them from flashing! The left of the device holds the power switch, and the right of the device the miniUSB socket. Owners of Pocket PCs / Smartphones that also use miniUSB should take particular note here - the BT-Q810 charges just fine from my Pocket PC charger and my sync and charge cable, effectively negating the need for additional cables. In fact, i've just left the wall / car chargers for the GPS in the box. Excellent! The bottom of the device has an anti-slip pad, which is perfect for putting the GPS on your dashboard. There's nothing worse than seeing your GPS fly out the window as you round a corner with the windows down The base is also home to the battery cover, behind which sits the 1000mAh battery - an impressive capacity, that no doubt contributes to the (claimed) 25 hour battery life. We'll find out if that's a reasonable figure later! The brief specifications of the device are as follows, you can read the full details at the Q-Starz Site:
Which leads us on nicely to the 'in use' section. In use For my test of the unit, I first of all gave it a thorough charge, and then powered it up and placed it on the office window sill. At this point I expected it to take a while to get a fix (as is customary in a 'cold start' scenario), but immediately, the BT-Q810 started to shine. The device actually found a good quality fix before my SiRF III unit had, which astounded me - I was up and running in around 30 seconds. Pairing the GPS with my device was painless, as you would expect - just search for bluetooth devices, select the 'iBT-GPS' device, and enter the '0000' PIN. I seleceted the 'Serial Port' service, and I was done. For the general testing, I used MoDaCo CamerAware, TomTom and iGo. All three applications ran just fine with the unit. Over a couple of days testing, I found the BT-Q810 to have excellent sensitivity, at least on par and sometimes better than that of my SiRF III GPS - a very unexpected result! I then conducted a number of 'torture tests' to determine how long the battery would last, and whether it could hit the claimed 25 hours. In honesty, in each of my tests the low battery LED would illuminate at around 15 hours, with it then lasting a further 3 hours at best before expiring. A fair way off the claimed 25 hour battery life, but impressive nonetheless. 18 hours of continuous GPS is not to be sniffed at. There's one more feature that i'd like to tell you about that also contributes to prolonging the battery life, and that's the 'Auto on-off'. Basically, the BT-Q810 will only power up the GPS chipset when it detects an active connection via Bluetooth. At all other times, it will only keep the Bluetooth side of the device running, waiting for connections. This is a great idea as GPS is the major power drain on the device. I have owned a GPS with this feature before, and it was invaluable for times when I would leave the GPS somewhere and forget to turn it off Conclusion In conclusion, I found the BT-Q810 to be a very impressive and very capable GPS receiver. Something of a dark horse, performing much better than I expected, particularly given the very reasonable $89.99 price point. If you are in the market for a GPS receiver, then it comes highly recommended... and i'll leave you with my positives and negatives!  The positives
-------------------- My current devices of choice - HTC Touch HD (Miri 6.5 v11), White T-Mobile G1 (Haykuro ADP1.5Hr3-A2SD), Samsung Blackjack II (6.1 stock)   |
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Nov 8 2006, 21:44
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 Its not my real name ya know !!! Group: Posters Posts: 1,065 Joined: 7th February 2003 From: Long Eaton,Notts Member No.: 2,696 Device(s): M600 |
Great Review Paul,
Any chance of a photo nxt to the ever popular Clipon. old or new I'm looking at a new device but size is an issue dispite what the wife tells me lol Cheers mate -------------------- Grab ya free console HERE ;-)
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Nov 8 2006, 21:59
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The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,816 Favorited Topics: 50 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulatmodaco |
Sadly I don't have the Fortuna here.
However, the dimensions of each are as follows: BT-Q810 - 72mm x 47mm X 20mm Fortuna - 74mm x 41mm x 30mm As you can see, it's not massively smaller than the Clip-On, but it is a better shape (being thinner), and the size is the price you pay for that monster 1000mAh battery. Performance wise it blows the Fortuna away of course, as you would expect, being much newer! P |
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Nov 9 2006, 11:03
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 Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 53 Joined: 27th May 2004 From: UK Member No.: 44,583 Device(s): O2 Xda Mini S, MDA Compact III |
Any Idea were the will be available from in the UK as I would prefer to get this from a UK site.
reading your review this Looks really good
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Nov 9 2006, 12:44
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 Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 426 Joined: 29th March 2005 From: Brisbane AU Member No.: 120,376 Device(s): HTC Touch Dual (P5500) |
rofl you really hate flashing lights dont you
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Nov 9 2006, 12:46
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The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,816 Favorited Topics: 50 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulatmodaco |
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Nov 10 2006, 10:06
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The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,816 Favorited Topics: 50 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulatmodaco |
Just a reminder that there is a 10% discount at Semsons available to Plus members!
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Nov 24 2006, 10:39
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 Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 402 Joined: 13th December 2004 From: Weston super Mare Member No.: 101,753 Device(s): HTC S740 |
Just got me one of these from ebay - next day delivery, cost £42... now I just need to wait for my copy of Route 66 to arrive so I can use it :|
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Nov 24 2006, 11:11
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The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,816 Favorited Topics: 50 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulatmodaco |
Where did you buy yours from?
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Nov 24 2006, 16:23
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 402 Joined: 13th December 2004 From: Weston super Mare Member No.: 101,753 Device(s): HTC S740 |
ebay HERE
Tested it at lunchtime using a basic speed/coordinate/compass piece of GPS software - looks good. |
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Nov 29 2006, 13:55
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 402 Joined: 13th December 2004 From: Weston super Mare Member No.: 101,753 Device(s): HTC S740 |
Got my copy of Route 66 Mobile 7 a couple of days ago, and have tested this receiver with it on a few journeys. My experience of GPS is limited, having only used this, with Route 66 and an 8500, and Copilot with a Motorola A780.
Route 66 picked up the signal from this receiver instantly and didn't lose it once - during trips on average of about 45 minutes. From switch-on the unit picked up a dozen satellites within a matter of seconds - on my old GPS I had to wait upto a minute for this. I keep the unit in my glove box when driving, and still get excellent signals. There are cheap generic GPS units out there for around the same price I got this one for, but after reading Paul's and various other reviews, I felt this was the one for me. Finding it for £40 (£29+pp) was an added bonus, although I would be prepared to pay the full £60ish from semsons if I had to. If you need a GPS receiver, this should be high on your shortlist. |
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Nov 29 2006, 15:28
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The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,816 Favorited Topics: 50 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulatmodaco |
I'm still really pleased with mine too.
Not only that, after reading the review, Q-Starz contacted me and said they'd like to put a sticker on every box with a MoDaCo logo and details of the review. Kinda cool P |
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Nov 29 2006, 15:52
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 402 Joined: 13th December 2004 From: Weston super Mare Member No.: 101,753 Device(s): HTC S740 |
now that's cool.
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Nov 30 2006, 08:53
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 53 Joined: 27th May 2004 From: UK Member No.: 44,583 Device(s): O2 Xda Mini S, MDA Compact III |
Ive got myself one of these as well now, and it works really well with tom tom
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Jan 5 2007, 22:32
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 Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 269 Joined: 5th July 2003 From: North Wales Member No.: 9,444 Device(s): Palm Treo 750v |
Paul, I think my trusty Clipon is about to become surplus to requirements. The most important question is though..... does it sit as snugly in the A4 cup holder
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Jan 15 2007, 19:18
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 269 Joined: 5th July 2003 From: North Wales Member No.: 9,444 Device(s): Palm Treo 750v |
Paul, having trouble getting TomTom, CamerAware connecting to my Qstarz. I have set it up the same as you, but nothing seems to want to connect. Any ideas. I've noticed that I can't set up an outgoing com port like I had with the clipon. Any ideas?
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Apr 12 2007, 07:54
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The Main Man! Group: Admin Team Posts: 21,816 Favorited Topics: 50 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): Touch HD / G1 Twitter: @paulatmodaco |
Just seen this (doh), I assume you sussed it out? You should be able to create an outgoing COM port.
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Apr 16 2007, 11:36
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Enthusiast Group: Posters Posts: 269 Joined: 5th July 2003 From: North Wales Member No.: 9,444 Device(s): Palm Treo 750v |
Yup, got it sussed in the end. Had to start from scratch
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