Samsung i300 IrDA remote control, it's on the CD that comes with the phone |
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 Jan 11 2006, 14:05
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Wow this works *really* well.
It's made by Agilent technogies and is a 500kb .cab file that has pre-defined codes for Panasonic, Philips, Sony and Samsung Tv's, DVD, Video's, and Audio. Audio what?, it doesn't say but I assume mini systems. Range is at least 8 or 9 *metres* using it with my sony TV even though the i300 battery is nearly flat. Wow. Compared to most smartphones running remote software this is AMAZING.  Richard
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Jan 11 2006, 14:15
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
Right, the philips codes are standard RC5, so anything that uses these can be controlled natively eg my Marantz CD player, Arcam DVD player, Cyrus Amplifier. Only basic transport controls for the CD / DVD but still useful. Not all functions work eg the power buttons. But there's a remote learning function accessed by pressing a key with no label! Yay!
" Learn Key Wizard. To learn a key, i) Align your remote control to IR port in your phone ii) Select the 'Start' menu. iii) Press the key on your remote control you want to learn (Press only once, DO NOT HOLD). " Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jan 11 2006, 15:41
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 Hardcore Group: Moderator Team Posts: 4,408 Joined: 19th February 2003 From: South Croydon Member No.: 2,910 Device(s): MDA Vario II |
Fluffcat1, can you confirm though that this works due to different ir hardware in the Samsung compared with all the other Smartphones? Just that for so long now it's been taken as gospel that the SPV range's IR hardware wasn't appropriate for use as a remote control. Would be nice if this does prove to be incorrect.
But I'm not holding my breath! |
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Jan 12 2006, 09:38
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(Pondrew @ Jan 11 2006, 16:41) Fluffcat1, can you confirm though that this works due to different ir hardware in the Samsung compared with all the other Smartphones? Just that for so long now it's been taken as gospel that the SPV range's IR hardware wasn't appropriate for use as a remote control. Would be nice if this does prove to be incorrect. But I'm not holding my breath!  Must be different IR hardware - tried some un-scientific tests with a remote control tester( £4.99 from CPC ) and a Sony videocamera (pulses with IR) and the samsung has a helluva range compared to HTC stuff. Learning function works well too, although cyclic codes can't be programmed eg my Arcam DV88 'menu 'button pulses 2 different codes in a cycle and this is too difficult for the i300. Pronto esq remotes also suffer this and the solution for those is a download patch, but as this is a value-added side feature of the i300 can't see any updates being done. Also installed the app on other QVGA devices - a c550 and an sp5. Although it installs ok, gives a 'WPSM error' or 'driver not loaded' and no ir output when buttons pressed. Understandable as the screen displays the i300's keypad with functions mapped over it so it is deviuce specific, but pressing various keys on the other phones do make the displayed buttons illuminate so it isn't a button mapping issue. Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jan 14 2006, 00:04
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(fluffcat1 @ Jan 12 2006, 10:38) Must be different IR hardware And some! Seems the underlying technology has changed recently to enable low cost, low power, high range units to be embedded into phones / pda's. Agilent, who supply the software with the samsung, also design and make the hardware. http://news.thomasnet.com/fullstory/461929/264 "Agilent Technologies Introduces Industry’s Smallest, Lowest-Power Infrared Transceiver for Universal Remote Control via Mobile Phone Transceiver’s 1.6mm Ultra-Low-Profile Package and 1.8-V Logic Input/Output Interface Enable Slimmer, Compact Mobile Devices PALO ALTO, Calif., March 14, 2005 -- Agilent Technologies Inc. (NYSE: A) today introduced the industry’s smallest, lowest-power infrared (IR) transceiver that enables mobile phones and personal digital assistants (PDAs) to function as universal IR remote controls for televisions, VCRs, DVDs and other home appliances. The new transceiver offers a remote control distance of up to 7 meters (approximately 23 feet) with an IrDA (Infrared Data Association) link distance of up to 50 cm (approximately 20 inches) and compatibility with Agilent’s universal remote control software." Speed is upto 4 mb/s so fairly reasonable, IRDA certified link range is 50cm so laptop links should be better. Maybe IrDA has a new lease of life? an off-the-peg solution from one manufacturer of componants for approx $2USD in 'moderate volume' - how long before it spreads to other devices? From reading their product spec the actual control software can also be embedded within the emitter so that 'dumber' devices can also play too  But these cost $4...http://www.avagotech.com/products/parametr...licationId=5267 Come on HTC, catch up! Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jan 14 2006, 17:20
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Hardcore Group: Moderator Team Posts: 4,408 Joined: 19th February 2003 From: South Croydon Member No.: 2,910 Device(s): MDA Vario II |
I second that motion! Come on HTC, why can't the SPV/SDA range incorporate this technology?
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Jan 15 2006, 14:47
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(Pondrew @ Jan 14 2006, 18:20) why can't the SPV/SDA range incorporate this technology? Perhaps they can I've ordered some engineering samples to test-bodge onto various HTC boards I have spare. If I've read the specs of (some of) them correctly, they are higher power direct replacements as they use standard IrDA control codes If it works and they ring me up and ask me to buy 1000 units anybody interested in a group buy?  Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jan 22 2006, 13:47
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 Come on you Horns!  Group: News Team Posts: 187 Joined: 22nd May 2004 From: Wheathampstead Member No.: 44,098 Device(s): T-Mobile Vario 3 |
Have you had any luck yet mate? If you dont get any luck maybe you could try maplins or RS who might be able to get these things. Either that or search the web for a part number that might sell them in lower batches. Id certainly have a few from you if you get them working!
Phill -------------------- www.watfordfc.com
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Jan 22 2006, 13:57
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,343 Joined: 10th May 2004 Member No.: 42,906 Device(s): E200 2xC500 SP5m Vario |
QUOTE(Pondrew @ Jan 14 2006, 17:20) I second that motion! Come on HTC, why can't the SPV/SDA range incorporate this technology? oh it can - like i said i am on the case  htc are just being jack... *fill in the blanks* -------------------- http://www.spapps.co.uk
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Jan 23 2006, 18:52
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(deadphill @ Jan 22 2006, 14:47) Have you had any luck yet mate? If you dont get any luck maybe you could try maplins or RS who might be able to get these things. Either that or search the web for a part number that might sell them in lower batches. Id certainly have a few from you if you get them working! Phill Agilent are their own distributer, these are designed for OEM/ODM's so I've emailed to ask for a development kit sample but so far no response :-( I've tried the usual suspects in Taipei for a source as well and nothing so far. I think they're a bit too new / specialist for the likes of Farnell (R.S) and defo not maplin's thing, but I'll keep you informed. I've managed to source XDA dock connections in small volumes so am fairly hopeful. QUOTE(Tech @ Jan 22 2006, 14:57) oh it can - like i said i am on the case htc are just being jack... *fill in the blanks* These are new technology - some of the emitters available actually have the code firmware built in, and they all have a much longer range, I don't think it's something that can be achieved using software as the output of the IR emitters in HTC equipment is currently too low. The plan is to swop these newer emitters with higher power onto an existing HTC board - assuming the output / control format /voltage is compatible. I think we may well see these on future HTC products, but a retro-fit option would be cool too :-) Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jan 24 2006, 21:49
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Newbie  Group: Members Posts: 6 Joined: 30th July 2003 Member No.: 11,604 |
hi,
i'm one of them stupid people that threw away that software cd when i got my phone because i knew i already had outlook and sactive sync, so could some-one post / attach the file for irda remote to the forum for me pleeeaaaaaaassseeeee!!! jezz. |
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Jan 24 2006, 21:58
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(jezz @ Jan 24 2006, 22:49) hi, i'm one of them stupid people that threw away that software cd when i got my phone because i knew i already had outlook and sactive sync, so could some-one post / attach the file for irda remote to the forum for me pleeeaaaaaaassseeeee!!! jezz. Tried samsung customer services? Won't run on any other device. You shouldn't ask for downloads of copyrighted software on the forum. Maybe try the shop where you got it? Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jan 24 2006, 22:01
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 Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,711 Joined: 29th November 2005 From: Guildford Member No.: 160,616 Device(s): 8gb Touch Dual YUM |
i am against copyrighted files being posted, but how sure are we tht it will not run on the c550
--------------------  *DROOLING ON A TOUCH DUAL* |
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Jan 24 2006, 22:09
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(mini_man @ Jan 24 2006, 23:01) i am against copyrighted files being posted, but how sure are we tht it will not run on the c550 Read post number 4 and find out :-) (Different IR emitter hardware) Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jan 24 2006, 22:15
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,711 Joined: 29th November 2005 From: Guildford Member No.: 160,616 Device(s): 8gb Touch Dual YUM |
ok thats a shame! can tech work from this or would he need some sort of source code
-------------------- *DROOLING ON A TOUCH DUAL* |
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Jan 24 2006, 22:19
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Hardcore Group: MoDaCo Plus Posts: 1,521 Joined: 22nd August 2005 Member No.: 145,647 Device(s): 8500 amongst others... |
QUOTE(mini_man @ Jan 24 2006, 23:15) ok thats a shame! can tech work from this or would he need some sort of source code I doubt it - I think it's designed to work in conjunction with agilent's new range of IR emitters that have a longer range than those used in HTC devices ( see links above). From info on the agilent site some emitters have basic codes actually built into firmware, so without opening the samsung up as yet I don't know what emitter is actually there and therefore what / how this app works. Richard -------------------- '....It's been out in Japan nearly 3 weeks - where's yours?'
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Jan 24 2006, 22:28
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Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 1,711 Joined: 29th November 2005 From: Guildford Member No.: 160,616 Device(s): 8gb Touch Dual YUM |
ok fair enough it is a newer model.
Anyway it will be gr8 to have the htc range in with the remote control phone range. i can still imagin ppls surprise to find that the tv magically changin spooky -------------------- *DROOLING ON A TOUCH DUAL* |
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Aug 26 2006, 15:06
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 Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 5 Joined: 23rd August 2006 Member No.: 203,203 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i300 |
When i try to install this to my i300 i get a windows error:
Only part of a ReadProcessMemory or WriteProcessMemory request was completed. maybe the file is corrupted? the cd has some scratches.. This post has been edited by awarner (MVP): Sep 25 2006, 09:55 |
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Sep 20 2006, 15:38
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 5 Joined: 23rd August 2006 Member No.: 203,203 Device(s): Samsung SGH-i300 |
C'mon please no one can help me?!
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Sep 25 2006, 09:57
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 Staff Team Leader Group: Admin Team Posts: 16,538 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 53 Device(s): C550 and JasJar |
Have you tried contacting Samsung and requesting a replacement cd?
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