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 Jan 23 2008, 21:24
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Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 21 Joined: 23rd January 2008 Member No.: 348,287 Device(s): Samsung Blackjack 2  |
this is just a simple question dealing with the GPS in the Blackjack 2. Is it possible to use the GPS feature if i do not have a internet/data plan with my service provider(AT&T) if so how would i go about doing this, (including unlocking the GPS chip other things)
ps. im pretty new to cellphone modding |
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Jan 23 2008, 21:39
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Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 412 Joined: 29th January 2007 Member No.: 225,188 Device(s): Samsung i617 |
All you would need is software that doesn't require a network connection. Garmin Mobile XT is what I would recommend.
You don't need to do anything else. |
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Jan 23 2008, 23:38
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 21 Joined: 23rd January 2008 Member No.: 348,287 Device(s): Samsung Blackjack 2 |
i know this is a streach but are there any free GPS services that do not require a network connection?
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Jan 24 2008, 00:43
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 412 Joined: 29th January 2007 Member No.: 225,188 Device(s): Samsung i617 |
None that I know of offering turn by turn, but it's apparently possible to get Google Maps preloaded onto your device...but that's not turn by turn navigation and I don't know how to do it...
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Jan 24 2008, 00:58
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 Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 29 Joined: 3rd January 2008 From: usa Member No.: 340,352 Device(s): i617 blackjackII |
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Jan 24 2008, 05:40
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 4 Joined: 11th October 2007 Member No.: 310,327 Device(s): Samsung Blackjack II |
Yea i dont have data either so i just use a program called gpsVP (http://gpsvp.garminmapsearch.com/) you can just download the program for free and then use thier program to download the areas you want (so you dont have to load a map of the whole US). If you have any questions feel free to ask me!
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Jan 25 2008, 07:15
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 24th January 2008 Member No.: 348,734 |
QUOTE(Sk8er4life3737 @ Jan 24 2008, 00:40)  Yea i dont have data either so i just use a program called gpsVP (http://gpsvp.garminmapsearch.com/) you can just download the program for free and then use thier program to download the areas you want (so you dont have to load a map of the whole US). If you have any questions feel free to ask me! Hello, i was wondering if you could help us out with GPS VP.. I have downloaded GPSVP and as well as the Garmin Americas Map (linke on the site above). However, I dont see how to use this device. How do i put in an address or search for a point of intrest? what do i need to get. i have yet to be able to connect to a GPS (I DONT HAVE A DATA PLAN).. I switched the gps/settings/ to com 4 (is this correct?).. Thanks bill |
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Jan 27 2008, 21:25
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 4 Joined: 11th October 2007 Member No.: 310,327 Device(s): Samsung Blackjack II |
QUOTE(WAYII @ Jan 24 2008, 23:15) Hello, i was wondering if you could help us out with GPS VP.. I have downloaded GPSVP and as well as the Garmin Americas Map (linke on the site above). However, I dont see how to use this device. How do i put in an address or search for a point of intrest? what do i need to get. i have yet to be able to connect to a GPS (I DONT HAVE A DATA PLAN).. I switched the gps/settings/ to com 4 (is this correct?).. Thanks bill GPSVP is not able to direct you to addresses, if you want that you would need to get google maps, windows live, etc. Unfortunatly those use a large amount of data. For now GPSVP is your best bet. Yes COM4 is correct. |
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Jan 30 2008, 04:45
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 24th January 2008 Member No.: 348,734 |
tried gpsvp.. quickly got frustrated. got garmin mobile xt. its awesome. worth the "buy".... btw.. when u install it.. it asks if you want to allow garmin to accesss an internet (data plan) connection.. say no
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Jan 31 2008, 15:45
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 31st January 2008 Member No.: 351,334 Device(s): Audiovox SMt5600 |
Hello! I'm considering buying a Blackjack II, primarily for the built-in GPS radio. I plan to also buy and use Garmin XT.
Two questions (1) Is it easy to receive/make calls while using the Garmin XT application? Any feedback on your experience with this point would be greatly appreciated (2) Is it possible to transfer all the Garmin software from the Garmin-provided micro-SD, onto a larger capacity SD card, so I don't have to keep changing cards back and forth, when I want to listen to music etc? Many thanks for your help! |
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Jan 31 2008, 15:56
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 12 Joined: 9th December 2007 Member No.: 330,964 Device(s): Samsung Blackjack |
QUOTE(magoh9494 @ Jan 31 2008, 10:45) Hello! I'm considering buying a Blackjack II, primarily for the built-in GPS radio. I plan to also buy and use Garmin XT. Two questions (1) Is it easy to receive/make calls while using the Garmin XT application? Any feedback on your experience with this point would be greatly appreciated (2) Is it possible to transfer all the Garmin software from the Garmin-provided micro-SD, onto a larger capacity SD card, so I don't have to keep changing cards back and forth, when I want to listen to music etc? Many thanks for your help! 1) not sure, I've not received a call while using it, how sad is that, lol. I don't think it's an issue, after you end the call you would just need to re-open the program. 2) Yes, it is possible, my garmin application and maps are all on my 8GB sd card, there are instructions on how to do it here somewhere. One thing to keep in mind...the gps burns up the battery pretty quickly, so it is recommended to have (and use it) with a car charger. |
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Jan 31 2008, 16:22
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 31st January 2008 Member No.: 351,334 Device(s): Audiovox SMt5600 |
QUOTE(shutter13 @ Jan 31 2008, 09:56) 1) not sure, I've not received a call while using it, how sad is that, lol. I don't think it's an issue, after you end the call you would just need to re-open the program. 2) Yes, it is possible, my garmin application and maps are all on my 8GB sd card, there are instructions on how to do it here somewhere. One thing to keep in mind...the gps burns up the battery pretty quickly, so it is recommended to have (and use it) with a car charger. Thanks Shutter13! Are you saying that I couldn't have Garmin running in the 'background' while I place/receive a call, so that when the call is done, I see the Garmin screen? Also, I would appreciate if you could post the link to the instructions re: moving the Garmin software onto another micro-SD card. And thanks for the tip on conserving battery life! |
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Jan 31 2008, 20:07
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 412 Joined: 29th January 2007 Member No.: 225,188 Device(s): Samsung i617 |
It is possible to receive phonecalls while using garmin. I have done so. The only problem, if you consider it a problem that is, is that the other party will hear the directions when Garmin starts talking to you. If you enable the turn preview option, and you run Garmin in the background, when you approach a turn, the turn preview will come to the front and show you where to turn. You can then press "OK" and it'll take you back to your last running program.
About putting it on another card, it requires running a key generator to make a new unlock code for the new card. Key generators are considered piracy as they are means to circumvent copy protection, and I will not link directly to them, but that is the only way to go about putting it on another card. Unless you want to try contacting Garmin? Not sure how willing they'd be for that... |
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Jan 31 2008, 23:02
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 3 Joined: 31st January 2008 Member No.: 351,334 Device(s): Audiovox SMt5600 |
Thanks for both answers! One more question: do you know if AT&T requires you to carry a data plan, in order to get the BJII? If they don't, can I access the 'data network' on an as-needed basis? I'm able to do that today with the Audiovox SMT5600, meaning, that I don't have a data plan, but can get out as needed, and pay a per-unit-of-data fee.
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Feb 1 2008, 00:58
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 12 Joined: 9th December 2007 Member No.: 330,964 Device(s): Samsung Blackjack |
QUOTE Are you saying that I couldn't have Garmin running in the 'background' while I place/receive a call, so that when the call is done, I see the Garmin screen? Actually, I did mean that it would run in the background while you took the call. but when you end the call...typically your going to be taken back to your homescreen, not the last running program (at least that has been my experience), you would need to open the task manager and open the program back up (or click the icon in your MRU plugin, if your homescreen has one) and that would bring the program back tothe front. QUOTE(magoh9494 @ Jan 31 2008, 18:02) Thanks for both answers! One more question: do you know if AT&T requires you to carry a data plan, in order to get the BJII? If they don't, can I access the 'data network' on an as-needed basis? I'm able to do that today with the Audiovox SMT5600, meaning, that I don't have a data plan, but can get out as needed, and pay a per-unit-of-data fee. No, it is not required to have one if you have the Blackjack, but sometimes it is required to get the rebate. Course after you get the rebate you can drop the data plan. And yes, you can get one at the exhorbatant rate they charge for pay per use, IMO, if you use it at all...your better off with the plan. |
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Feb 1 2008, 04:25
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 5 Joined: 1st February 2008 Member No.: 351,567 Device(s): BlackJackII |
Wow, I'm a real noob here!! I need to know how to install the gps hack on my bj2. I have it downloaded on my desktop right now! Please help!!
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Feb 1 2008, 06:02
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Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 53 Joined: 16th January 2008 Member No.: 345,324 Device(s): Blackjack II |
QUOTE(Sk8er4life3737 @ Jan 23 2008, 21:40) Yea i dont have data either so i just use a program called gpsVP (http://gpsvp.garminmapsearch.com/) you can just download the program for free and then use thier program to download the areas you want (so you dont have to load a map of the whole US). If you have any questions feel free to ask me! So i installed the program and put the gps settings to port com4 and port speed to 19200 with track 1... now i have 2 questions 1. how do i install a map of California? what are the steps in doing so? 2. Should i use the gpstester first to see if im connected? and if so when should it connect? will i see the speed, conection, gps time, all that good stuff? thanks! i appreciate all the help and tips |
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Feb 11 2008, 13:05
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 1 Joined: 10th May 2007 Member No.: 254,723 Device(s): Samsung BlackJack |
QUOTE(Hylando @ Jan 23 2008, 16:24) this is just a simple question dealing with the GPS in the Blackjack 2. Is it possible to use the GPS feature if i do not have a internet/data plan with my service provider(AT&T) if so how would i go about doing this, (including unlocking the GPS chip other things) ps. im pretty new to cellphone modding Use Google Maps or Windows Live Search. They use the GPS receiver built into the BJII without having to buy software or "GPS service". You do need a data plan unless you want to pay as you use data (way expensive!). This post has been edited by iradi8: Feb 11 2008, 13:07 |
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Feb 17 2008, 07:55
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 7 Joined: 14th February 2008 Member No.: 356,458 Device(s): BlackJack II |
Ok, let me see if I m understanding correctly. If I were to go and get the Garmin XT, I could use GPS in my BJII and not need a data plan at all? Is this correct thinking? Also, I saw someone say they had the garmin xt moved to a 8 gig mem card. I thought BJII could only go to 4 gig? Can someone clarify on that as well?
Thanks, Silent76 |
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Feb 17 2008, 15:18
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 9 Joined: 20th January 2008 Member No.: 347,052 |
QUOTE(Silent76 @ Feb 17 2008, 02:55) Ok, let me see if I m understanding correctly. If I were to go and get the Garmin XT, I could use GPS in my BJII and not need a data plan at all? Is this correct thinking? Also, I saw someone say they had the garmin xt moved to a 8 gig mem card. I thought BJII could only go to 4 gig? Can someone clarify on that as well? Thanks, Silent76 As long as you make sure to turn off Garmin's traffic and weather services, then you will not need a data plan to use it. As far as the 8gb card, I've heard of people using it but I only have a 4gb card myself. |
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