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 Disabling "Static Navigation" on GPSr chip?, Trying to geocache and SN is messing me up!
Mojoski
post Apr 21 2008, 02:51
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Hey, guys! Does anyone know how to disable the "static navigation" feature of the GPSr chipset in the Blackjack 2? While I like having a steady GPS pointer while stopped at a traffic light, I don't like it so much that I want to render the GPSr unusable at slow walking speeds. I'm a geocacher and I need the GPS values to be updated even when walking slowly..

Anyone have a clue how to do this?

Thanks!
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post Apr 21 2008, 04:03
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QUOTE(Mojoski @ Apr 20 2008, 19:51) *
Hey, guys! Does anyone know how to disable the "static navigation" feature of the GPSr chipset in the Blackjack 2? While I like having a steady GPS pointer while stopped at a traffic light, I don't like it so much that I want to render the GPSr unusable at slow walking speeds. I'm a geocacher and I need the GPS values to be updated even when walking slowly..

Anyone have a clue how to do this?

Thanks!


Now if that's really the reason it's a little slow, that'd be great, as I'd love to have a back-up to my Vista HCX...but I'm skeptical.
I've looked through the GPS registry settings that I can find and don't see anything relevant or suggestive to "Static Navigation."

This would be really great, as Cachemate for WM Smartphone has a "Navigate To" option (with pointer) that works with the BJ II's GPSr.
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post Apr 21 2008, 04:41
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Cachemate's CacheNAv plugin is the whole reason I'm trying to figure this out. It is definately a problem with the "Static Navigation" feature of the SiRFstar III chipset. I've been doing a bunch more reading tonight since I originally posted, and I'm convinced of that much.

I have found 4 different programs that claim to allow a user to be able to disable the Static Navigation feature of the chipset, and it happens in the chip firmware, not in the Windows Mobile software, so that is why it isn't controlled by anything in the Registry.

Here are a few threads with more info:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...6079&page=2

http://www.gpstuner.com/forum/viewtopic.ph...6bb5a26c3a1b0e9

Some of the tools mentioned are: MMSirf, SirfDemo, SirfTech, etc..

Unfortunately I couldn't get any of these to work for me. They either hang up and can't be killed when I connect them to COM4, causing me to have to reboot my BJ2 to get them out of memory, or they won't install at all because they were made for PocketPC and Windows Mobile 6 Standard won't let me install them.

Surely someone out there has figured this out already on the BlackJack II and can lend a brother a hand!?

cool.gif

Thanks!

Mojo

QUOTE(JeepinCalifornia @ Apr 21 2008, 00:03) *
Now if that's really the reason it's a little slow, that'd be great, as I'd love to have a back-up to my Vista HCX...but I'm skeptical.
I've looked through the GPS registry settings that I can find and don't see anything relevant or suggestive to "Static Navigation."

This would be really great, as Cachemate for WM Smartphone has a "Navigate To" option (with pointer) that works with the BJ II's GPSr.
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post Apr 21 2008, 04:47
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A bit more info, but nothing that works on a BlackJack II..

http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?topic_id=39596
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post Apr 21 2008, 04:55
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QUOTE(Mojoski @ Apr 20 2008, 21:41) *
Cachemate's CacheNAv plugin is the whole reason I'm trying to figure this out. It is definately a problem with the "Static Navigation" feature of the SiRFstar III chipset. I've been doing a bunch more reading tonight since I originally posted, and I'm convinced of that much.

I have found 4 different programs that claim to allow a user to be able to disable the Static Navigation feature of the chipset, and it happens in the chip firmware, not in the Windows Mobile software, so that is why it isn't controlled by anything in the Registry.

Here are a few threads with more info:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread...6079&page=2

http://www.gpstuner.com/forum/viewtopic.ph...6bb5a26c3a1b0e9

Some of the tools mentioned are: MMSirf, SirfDemo, SirfTech, etc..

Unfortunately I couldn't get any of these to work for me. They either hang up and can't be killed when I connect them to COM4, causing me to have to reboot my BJ2 to get them out of memory, or they won't install at all because they were made for PocketPC and Windows Mobile 6 Standard won't let me install them.

Surely someone out there has figured this out already on the BlackJack II and can lend a brother a hand!?

cool.gif

Thanks!

Mojo


I too found SirfTech. Got it loaded, found Static Navigation options (along with all kinds of other things), but it won't seem to let me keep Static Navigation box Unchecked...
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post Apr 21 2008, 05:28
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Also tried MMSirf and Beeline, both to no avail (even though Beeline is listed as WM5/6 friendly)...
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post Apr 21 2008, 13:37
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Beware! In messing around with a few SiRF tweaking apps last night I seem to have somehow put my SiRF chipset into a state where Windows can no longer communicate with it.. ARGH!!

Anyone have any clue on how to set it back to factory defaults?

Thanks!

QUOTE(JeepinCalifornia @ Apr 21 2008, 01:28) *
Also tried MMSirf and Beeline, both to no avail (even though Beeline is listed as WM5/6 friendly)...
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post Apr 21 2008, 17:26
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I'd love to be able to use the Blackjack II for caching more too, but I haven't found any software that really works. Most of it seems to be for Windows Mobile Professional. I'm very hesitant to change the settings with any tools. I don't want to mess up the chip.
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post Apr 21 2008, 18:00
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QUOTE(Mojoski @ Apr 21 2008, 13:37) *
Beware! In messing around with a few SiRF tweaking apps last night I seem to have somehow put my SiRF chipset into a state where Windows can no longer communicate with it.. ARGH!!

Anyone have any clue on how to set it back to factory defaults?

Thanks!


*SCARY*
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post Apr 21 2008, 20:30
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Well, if not for the Static Navigation issue, I would have been quite thrilled with the BJ2 as a geocaching platform. I mapped CacheMate (with a functioning CacheNav plugin) to my CV hardware button and the Garmin Mobile XT application to the AT&T MediaNet button (with the AT&T logo on it) and that was everything I needed!! The CacheNav compass pointer just started acting dead when I got out of the car and started walking. That was why I was trying to get rid of the Static Navigation "feature" on my SiRF chip. Once I get SiRF awake again, and get rid of Static Navigation, the BlackJack II will be the ultimate in geocaching smartphones, as far as I'm concerned!

Also, if you can't pony up the bucks for Garmin Mobile XT to get you to the caches while driving, it is worth checking out the gpsVP application as well. Smittyware just released a new version of CacheMate for smartphone (v1.0.4) that has an add on plugin for OziExplorer WPT file exports. That can be used to dump the caches straight onto the gpsVP map!!

Either of these solutions should be perfect for geocaching!!

If only we could safely disable the Static Navigation...

QUOTE(emerson42 @ Apr 21 2008, 13:26) *
I'd love to be able to use the Blackjack II for caching more too, but I haven't found any software that really works. Most of it seems to be for Windows Mobile Professional. I'm very hesitant to change the settings with any tools. I don't want to mess up the chip.
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post Apr 22 2008, 01:05
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An overnight sitting with the battery removed may reset that chip...

-How are you using GarminXT to find caches?
-Have you posted at GC's forums regarding the Static Navigation?
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post Apr 22 2008, 02:11
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QUOTE(jbone @ Apr 21 2008, 18:00) *
*SCARY*



Remove 30 mn your battery work for me.
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post Apr 22 2008, 02:24
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I use Garmin Mobile XT for navigating me to the general area (with waypoints dumped for GSAK into MapSource) and then use the CacheNav plugin for CacheMate when I park and get out to go look fo the cache. It's this last part that of walking to the cache that the Static Navigation makes nearly impossible.

For the record, a quick hard reset fixed my GPS device, but taking the battery out, and holding the power button in did not.

The last time I had to do a reset I saved onto my microSD card all of the CAB and config files I needed to get my device back to how I like it. It took about an hours after reset, so that isn't too bad.
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Mojoski you don t need an hard reset,
BJII keep some config infos on files and on memory (BJII OFF stay ON).
Remove the battery for some hours is enought to reset the GPS part.

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post Apr 22 2008, 03:22
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Huzaah! I don't know why I didn't try all that before...

I sent my PQ to GSAK, exported to Mapsource, synced with XT, and it looks like I can find/edit/delete the caches under Manage My Data: My Locations. Is this the way you're doing it?

Is the information being stored under \Garmin somewhere (I'm not seeing it)?

Now...just to get rid of that Static Navigation (or maybe you can run for a few yards at 3.5MPH!).

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Under Tools from the main menu, look at "Manage My Data".. There is an option in there somewhere about deleting them all..

I wish it would let you delete all with a certain icon, like my Garmin eTrex Vista HCx device will.

QUOTE(JeepinCalifornia @ Apr 21 2008, 23:22) *
Mojo - I sent 10 caches to Mapsource, synced with GarminXT, and it said it was a success - but I haven't found where/how to find those within the menus of GarminXT. If the caches were going to appear on the map I should be able to see at least one from my own location, but I don't... Help?

EDIT: After restarting GarminXT, I see the caches. smile.gif I looked around the Garmin folders and don't see where this info was added - how do I remove the caches now?


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XT definitely has differences from the hiking GPSrs like the eTrex and 60CSX. That's one of my biggest problems with it. If we could get rid of the static navigation so Cachemate would work better I don't know that I'd use XT near as much.
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Has anybody been able to figure out a way to disable static navigation on the BJ2? Any update?
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QUOTE(brs165 @ May 2 2008, 19:45) *
Has anybody been able to figure out a way to disable static navigation on the BJ2? Any update?


I think ppl got scared away due to Mojoski post #7 lol

I know I did.
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QUOTE(jbone @ May 3 2008, 18:14) *
I think ppl got scared away due to Mojoski post #7 lol

I know I did.



Where is you sense of adventure!! smile.gif

I also tried a few apps such as SirfTech and was unable to change the SN setting.
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