Please Log In or Register - it's FREE!

 
Reply to this topicStart new topic
 Linux to power the new Motorola A760
sebset
post Feb 15 2003, 02:06
Post #1


Enthusiast
Group Icon

Group: Posters
Posts: 284
Joined: 27th November 2002
From: FRANCE
Member No.: 198



Motorola A760 powered by Linux


http://www.mobil.cz/obrazek.html?ob...760_1_velky.jpg
http://www.mobil.cz/obrazek.html?ob...760_2_velky.jpg


http://asia.cnet.com/newstech/systems/0,39...39114114,00.htm
---------------------------------
Linux to power most Motorola phones
By Stephen Shankland and Ben Charny, CNET News.com
Thursday, February 13 2003 3:26 PM


Motorola will begin selling its first cell phone based on Linux this year and says most future models will follow suit, a major sign of the growing popularity of operating system outside its stronghold on high-end computers.

Motorola's Linux-powered A760, an elaborate color-screen phone with a digital camera, MP3 audio player, video player and the ability to run Java programs, will go on sale in Asia in the third quarter, with introductions in North America and Europe afterward. Eventually, the company plans to move Linux to lower-end phones, said Scott Durschlag, corporate vice president for strategy and business development for Motorola's personal communications sector.

"We think we'll move millions of units" of cell phones running Linux, Durschlag said. "I think you'll see it take over the majority of our portfolio going forward," including lower-end phones.

Linux is collectively created by a large group of open-source programmers, many of whom work for companies such as IBM and Hewlett-Packard that sell hundreds of millions of dollars worth of high-end server computers running the Unix-like operating system. Now, though, several companies are advocating use of Linux in smaller devices.

"What Motorola articulated is (that) the future for their high-end handset line-up is Linux," said Yankee Group wireless technologies analyst John Jackson. "This is a pretty interesting statement from a company with the size, scope and market of Motorola."

But in the market for powerful "smart" phones, Linux won't have an easy time duking it out with earlier arrivals from Microsoft, Palmsource and the Symbian consortium, a group that includes Motorola, IDC analyst Alex Slawsby said.

By 2006, IDC believes Symbian will have increased its market share in powerful phones to 53 percent from its current 46 percent. Microsoft will have about 27 percent of the market, with Palm at 10 percent. Linux is predicted to take as much as 4.2 percent, according to IDC.

"We expect Linux to continue to be a niche opportunity," said Alex Slawsby, IDC's analyst for smart handhelds. "It will be in the rear."

Linux is available for free, but cost wasn't the reason Motorola made the move, Durschlag said. Instead, the Libertyville, Ill.-based company believes it can develop products sooner by tapping into the fast pace of the open-source community that cooperatively produces Linux, Durschlag said.

"To be honest, speed is more of a driver for us than cost," he said. "It's more efficient to work with (Linux) because there are more modules we won't have to develop ourselves."

Motorola's Linux phones will run Java, a programming language and related software initially created by Sun Microsystems that shields programs from differences in what particular processor and operating system a computing device uses. Motorola leads a multi-company consortium that defines Java for small devices such as cell phones, with participation from companies including Nokia, Vodafone, Samsung, NTT Docomo and Symbian.

"The operating system isn't that interesting. It's coupling Linux and Java together," Durschlag said. The company hasn't changed its strategy of encouraging the use of Java for programmers writing cell phone software such as games or business applications.

Outsiders agree. "The story here isn't really Linux on cell phones. It's Java running on Linux," Jackson said. "It's more about it being a bigger part of Motorola's Java strategy than it is about the efficacy or viability of Linux."

Motorola won't be developing its own version of Linux. Instead, it will rely on a software partnership with MontaVista Software, which said in January it expected a version of its Linux for cell phones. The company, unlike competitors such as Red Hat, concentrates on "embedded" devices such as DVD players or network routers.

MontaVista, which makes money selling Linux programming tools but doesn't charge per-unit royalties, declined to comment on details of its relationship with Motorola.

Linux and Java archenemy Microsoft said Motorola's move doesn't change things much--it's just a new variation on the fight to lure programmers to Microsoft software rather than Java. Microsoft believes it has the best total collection of software, including operating system, programming tools and higher-level software, said Ed Kaim, product manager for .Net mobile development at Microsoft.

"Our concern is about making the best experience for developers. We feel it's going to be the developer experience that drives these devices, not the operating system itself," Kaim said.

Microsoft advocates the use of software such as its Pocket PC Phone Edition and .Net Compact Framework for use in mobile gadgets.

Linux does give Motorola something it can't get from Microsoft or Symbian: control.

"By using Linux instead of Symbian or Windows, they are in control of their own upgrade cycle," said Giga Information Group analyst Stacey Quandt, adding that Java ensures Motorola flexibility as well. "Although they will be pioneers in Linux cell phones, the fact that application is written in Java leaves them reasonably insulated from the underlying operating system."

Linux, once a mere hobby, has become influential in the computing industry. For example, cell phone maker Nokia has responded to requests from Linux programmers to release a Linux version of development software.

And at the other end of the dial tone, IBM, Hewlett-Packard, Intel and others are pushing the use of Linux for telecommunications gear.

NEC is the only other major device maker committed to selling cell phones using a Linux operating system. A representative could not immediately be reached for comment.

Most phone handset makers, including market leader Nokia, don't have any current plans to use Linux, Slawsby said. "Nobody else is doing it wirelessly on the major brand side," he said.

Nokia is happy with its current non-Linux plans. "Right now, we're supporting Symbian in our smart phones," said Nokia representative Keith Nowak. "We think it's the best option."

In smart phones, IDC's Slawsby believes Linux will "continue to be a niche opportunity" rather than a mainstream technology. But Motorola's embrace of Linux is giving the operating system a boost.

"Linux-Java has been pushed by no-name vendors for a few years," Slawsby said. "This adds more wood to the flame."
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
ashley.flynn
post Feb 15 2003, 03:17
Post #2


Regular
Group Icon

Group: Posters
Posts: 124
Joined: 25th November 2002
From: Wales
Member No.: 63



uh-oh!!! this seems like an idea that points to the kind of future the SPV was trying to avoid. Cmon microsoft please! you got yourselves ahead of the market (technology speaking), break your normal rules and play hardball!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Myke
post Feb 15 2003, 11:10
Post #3


Diehard
Group Icon

Group: Posters
Posts: 430
Joined: 28th January 2003
From: California, USA
Member No.: 2,398



Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
casper508
post Feb 27 2003, 17:56
Post #4


Addict
Group Icon

Group: Posters
Posts: 767
Joined: 18th December 2002
From: London, UK
Member No.: 1,237

Device(s): I-mate SP5m, HTC Touch



Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Emad
post Feb 27 2003, 18:04
Post #5


Addict
Group Icon

Group: Posters
Posts: 700
Joined: 19th December 2002
From: Oxford
Member No.: 1,263



Always wondered why the SPV isn't in gsmarena - even the neonode is there.. Looks like a touch screen. Urk..


--------------------
"If you can't control your peanut butter, you can't expect to control your life." - Calvin
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
Matt Whitfield
post Feb 27 2003, 19:15
Post #6


Diehard
Group Icon

Group: Posters
Posts: 309
Joined: 17th December 2002
From: London
Member No.: 1,174

Device(s): C500



Looks like a great phone and pretty sensible move by Motorola IMO (ignoring any MS/Java rivalry issues). Lots of network appliances use embedded Linux, and being a memory efficient, fast (get the most out of those CPUs) and stable OS (how often does your SPV lock up?) is likely to be rather good running on phones.

Also Linux is the OS most supported by Open Source developers so you can bet there will be a huge amount of FREE software developed for this phone in next to no time.

For me this was the key quote of the entire article:
QUOTE
"Our concern is about making the best experience for developers. We feel it's going to be the developer experience that drives these devices, not the operating system itself," Kaim said.  


I think the SPV, unfortunately, has a bit of a problem in that area currently...



--------------------
Matt Whitfield
WapTV Development UK
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post
casper508
post Feb 27 2003, 19:37
Post #7


Addict
Group Icon

Group: Posters
Posts: 767
Joined: 18th December 2002
From: London, UK
Member No.: 1,237

Device(s): I-mate SP5m, HTC Touch



QUOTE
Always wondered why the SPV isn't in gsmarena - even the neonode is there.. Looks like a touch screen. Urk..


Yes it is touch screen.

They didn't put any SHARP phones there either!
Go to the top of the page
 
+Quote Post

Reply to this topicStart new topic

Collapse

Similar Topics

  Topic Replies Topic Starter Views Last Action
No New Posts Topic has attachments*** ShokkA9 WM6.5 G-ROMs *** THE END ***
** SHKv22 23017 DUSK ** SHKv23 23064 BLACK **
2,851 shokka9 314,928 Today, 13:15
Last post by: Masta92
No new Topic has attachmentsNew Compass application to O2
O2Compass V3.1 released
212 Rapid81 23,469 Today, 13:29
Last post by: mapla
No new votes Poll: Topic has attachments[VIDEOTORIAL] How To Flash Omnia i900 & i910 on Windows 7, Vista & XP (Noob Friendly)
Because flashing/windows mobile 6.5 isn't only for nerds ;)
45 mikevhl 2,123 Today, 12:27
Last post by: ^nighthawk^
No New Posts Does removing the battery cover frequently damages it?
To soft reset and / or change microSD
5 Dan_Aykroyd 181 Today, 12:35
Last post by: Dan_Aykroyd
No new the more i look at other phones, the more bothering is the graphics
24 jacobgong 454 Today, 13:53
Last post by: msra6la2
No New Posts waiting for stepw,about the T01A rom upgrade
my device is japanese tg01
2 zhengwei 18 Today, 13:53
Last post by: gmx333

2 User(s) are reading this topic (2 Guests and 0 Anonymous Users)
0 Members:

 


RSS hit counter Lo-Fi Version Time is now: 9th February 2010 - 13:54

Please visit our 'Plus Partners' - these companies support MoDaCo through 'MoDaCo Plus' - Click Here for more details!

ActiveKitten | Binaryfish | Conduits | DeveloperOne | eSoft Interactive | FTouchSL | Inesoft | LastPass

Lingvosoft | monocube | OmegaOne | Omnisoft | Opera Software | Resco | SBSH | Splashdata

Sprite Software | Syncdata | Teksoft | Titanium Backup | VITO | WalkingHotSpot | WebIS | z4soft

Would your company like to become a 'Plus Partner'? Click Here to contact us!