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 Editor Dude  Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,809 Favorited Topics: 1 Joined: 23rd April 2003 From: Leicester, UK Member No.: 4,973 Device(s): Too many! Twitter: @nedge2k  |
Recieved an email from the BatMax Corp. about their battery extending product, BatMax. Hopefully i'll be getting some samples for review so watch this space.
QUOTE BatMax, the first cellphone battery life booster that extends the mobile phone battery life and reduces charging time is now in production and is currently being shipped to both U.S. and international retailers and wholesalers. Specifically created for modern mobile phones with color display, camera, internet access, Bluetooth, games and enhanced multimedia functionalities, which require high energy, BatMax answers the battery life demands of the actual handsets and future 3G mobile phones market with high-speed data rate and video communication. Old and new rechargeable batteries can benefit from BatMax and the product is compatible with all mobile phones. BatMax is based on the IonXR, a new exclusively developed nanoceramic material, resulting from years of laboratory research. BatMax foil slows down the loss of capacity of Ni-CD, Ni-MH, Li-Ion and Li-Polymer batteries and thus provides improved battery performance. BatMax is a small (1.14 x 1.92 in – 29 x 50 mm) rectangular sticker which is installed in seconds by the user on the mobile phone battery. Users just need to turn-off the mobile, remove the battery and attach BatMax to the battery or the cellphone. After re-assembling and turning on the mobile phone, BatMax starts its effect on the battery and users will notice a battery life improvement after 5 to 10 charging cycles. More info can be found here at MSMobileNews. -------------------- |
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Jan 24 2005, 09:42
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 Staff Team Leader Group: Admin Team Posts: 18,022 Favorited Topics: 1 Joined: 24th November 2002 From: Southampton Member No.: 53 Device(s): Omnia2 Finally a new toy :) Twitter: @ashwarner |
Another sticker claim, this same method was and possibly same company was discussed about a year ago with similar claims.
A company that was started last year that has a product with years of laboratory research? The main thing that worries me is their poor advice QUOTE Make sure to charge the battery fully and drain it fully before recharging. This will properly condition the battery and will ensure that it will operate at its maximum capacity. This is recommended for all cellphone batteries. You can discharge most cellphones by unplugging the power adapter and leaving it turned on until completely discharged. In the above statement they do not explain different types of batterieswhile Ni-cd and Ni-mh can and should be fully discharged, Li-ion batteries which are now in most moble phones must never be fully discharged as this damages the capacitance of the battery and will shorten it's life. QUOTE Eliminates the "memory" effect. Li-ion batteries suffer much less pronounced memory effect but as this is charge related (as in only giving part charges and not full charge) with Ni-cd batteries this claim is not possible. Li-ion batteries on the otherhand, prefer to be topped up on a regular basis but no battery should be charged for only a few minutes etc. They have an interesting design with sales pitch and it would be nice to actually have a probuct that can help to prolong the battery life. This would be interesting to test. If I can get a sample I will do a side by side test with two original SPVs without SIM cards, as reception can give false results between units. EDIT Their site does not list any distributors apart from themselves so it looks like it may be a long wait until people can actually buy the product. -------------------- TV Ambassador Blog visit my Live Space
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Jan 24 2005, 10:00
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 Gadget Freak  Group: Posters Posts: 416 Joined: 4th January 2005 From: London - England Member No.: 104,344 Device(s): Touch HD |
Does sound like a slightly dodgy "miracle" cure to me!
A new special metal, that only has to be stuck next to a battery, will increase the effectiveness of all battery types, regardless of their chemical composition? Hmm...... I think I'll keep my sceptics hat on for a little while longer! -------------------- The internet is a series of toobs...
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Jan 24 2005, 10:15
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 Hardcore Group: Posters Posts: 3,624 Joined: 18th January 2003 From: Fife, Scotland Member No.: 2,019 |
These have been talked about on modaco before - the overall feedback was that there was no noticable difference in the battery life :S
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Jan 24 2005, 10:29
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 Addict  Group: Posters Posts: 625 Joined: 20th October 2004 From: Gillingham, Kent Member No.: 61,346 Device(s): Vario3, Qtek 8500, C500 |
Short version of the old saying - if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
If you could develop a sticker to increase your battery life, which will develop and release it first - one of the big electronics companies, or a little outfit nobodies ever heard of? Put me down as a sceptic! -------------------- I love deadlines.
I especially like the noise they make as they go whooshing by! Current toy: HTC Touch Pro with 8Gb card and standard ROM (won't be standard for long!) Other toys: Qtek 8500 in pink running WM6.1 (10 year old stepson's phone), SPV C500 running WM6.1 (for when one of us needs something smaller) Sold on ebay over the years: MDA Vario 3 (Kaiser), MDA Vario 2 (Hermes), SPV M500 (Magician), SPV (Canary) - only the Canary wasn't flashed to within an inch of it's life! |
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Jan 24 2005, 12:36
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 Newbie  Group: Posters Posts: 36 Joined: 26th January 2004 Member No.: 30,068 |
"cough" HOGWASH "Cough"
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Jan 24 2005, 13:54
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 el Borracho Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 1,324 Joined: 22nd May 2003 From: Scary Devil Monastery - Milton Keynes Member No.: 6,629 Device(s): 2 cups and some string |
does it put your name on a list to get a "free" widescreen tv as well?
or have i seen too many scams on ebay :S later Owen -------------------- Webdude - Digital Pimp - Fat free news (with added pie)
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Jan 24 2005, 20:33
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 497 Joined: 18th August 2004 Member No.: 53,335 |
As is typical of such devices, there are pages of impressive diagrams and test results, but the "several prestigious institutions, laboratories and universities" that have tested and documented this wonder material are remain unnamed. Note that they state it's the "material" that they tested - not the product - and they don't say what it's tested for, or how relevant those tests were to their application. For all we know, the "material" could be tin foil which has been tested and documented on how well it wraps roast turkey.
The test results themselves are notable by the absence of specifics - the only model numbers they quote are for two bits of test equipment. The final caveat says it all really:- "These graphs are a compilation of several different tests and can not be held as contractual or indicating an absolute reference of accurate results for any user." I suspect that the "material" comes from the same oil refinery as the widely touted stick-on-battery "signal boosters", and that the benefits will be just as effective. |
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Jan 25 2005, 12:15
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 10 Joined: 15th February 2003 Member No.: 2,835 |
The good news is that if you buy one and it doesn't work you can always scrape it off the battery, stick it on the back of the phone, and increase your reception up to eight times!
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Jan 25 2005, 20:53
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 21 Joined: 19th October 2004 Member No.: 61,131 |
It reminds me an "antenna extender" which was a piece of foil placed on battery.
Most likely results are the same  BTW there is no even a single name of phone number on their Contacts page. Also there is now mail address of the company - only a fake picture of some anonymous building. Overall impression - THIS IS A SCAM This post has been edited by joedoe: Jan 25 2005, 21:00 |
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Jul 24 2007, 21:01
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 4 Joined: 24th July 2007 Member No.: 281,350 Device(s): iMac |
I got one last week, I am testing on my QTEK S200. The product seem to be good.
http://www.batmax.com/index.php I gess none of you have testing the product..  .but give me more time and I let you know the result |
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Jul 30 2007, 23:37
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 4 Joined: 24th July 2007 Member No.: 281,350 Device(s): iMac |
QUOTE(joedoe @ Jan 25 2005, 22:53)  It reminds me an "antenna extender" which was a piece of foil placed on battery. Most likely results are the same BTW there is no even a single name of phone number on their Contacts page. Also there is now mail address of the company - only a fake picture of some anonymous building. Overall impression - THIS IS A SCAM You're wrong. I gess you didn't try it. I make a serious test (as serious as possible) I have compared. It works, I have get 1 day more battery (about 30%); 3 days instead of 2 days usualy, this is great ( I'am also surprise  ). I'am thinking to buy one for my notebook  . |
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Aug 1 2007, 00:44
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 497 Joined: 18th August 2004 Member No.: 53,335 |
QUOTE(black-dog @ Jul 31 2007, 00:37) You're wrong. I gess you didn't try it. I make a serious test (as serious as possible) I have compared. It works, I have get 1 day more battery (about 30%); 3 days instead of 2 days usualy, this is great ( I'am also surprise ). I'am thinking to buy one for my notebook .Absolute snake oil. You probably just refreshed your battery and recalibrated your battery meter by doing the initial deep discharge/charging cycle they suggest. |
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Aug 1 2007, 06:44
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 Moderator - Boing! Group: Moderator Team Posts: 8,826 Joined: 12th December 2002 From: Guildford, UK Member No.: 993 Device(s): HTC Touch HD |
Yep, i've given these the benefit of the doubt before to no affect.
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Aug 1 2007, 07:04
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 1 Joined: 1st August 2007 Member No.: 284,033 Device(s): P990 |
Amazing. I love people that speak about product without testing it. It's crazy. From my side, I'm convinced and I'm not alone.
I bought 2 batmax for me and my wife, one for an old pda and one for my mobile phone. After 2 weeks I double my battery life, for both my cell and my pda. That's simple. And just to tell it's not a scientific test, but just the result of something everybody can measure: time. Easy. Try it and you'll see. |
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Aug 1 2007, 08:01
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 497 Joined: 18th August 2004 Member No.: 53,335 |
QUOTE(black-dog @ Jul 31 2007, 00:37) It works, I have get 1 day more battery (about 30%); 3 days instead of 2 days usualy, QUOTE(robsoni @ Aug 1 2007, 08:04) After 2 weeks I double my battery life, for both my cell and my pda. Wow, the improvement's gone from 30% to 100% in less than 8 hours! Isn't it coincidental that both posters have just joined the forum to tell us about this miracle? I smell not only scam, but spam! This post has been edited by Metoo: Aug 1 2007, 08:09 |
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Aug 1 2007, 12:29
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NeilM Group: Moderator Team Posts: 1,485 Joined: 26th September 2006 From: Saffron Walden, Essex Member No.: 207,744 Device(s): Ameo, HTC Diamond, Advent 4213 |
..and going to the Order site lists prices in Pounds, but the PayPal link converts back to the dollar value, in pounds; so the £11.95 PDA version will cost £21.95 + £2.50 P&P, with no way of adjusting.
I'd have risked a fiver just to say I'd tried it, but not £25 with postage  -------------------- |
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Aug 1 2007, 19:01
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 4 Joined: 24th July 2007 Member No.: 281,350 Device(s): iMac |
QUOTE(Metoo @ Aug 1 2007, 10:01) Wow, the improvement's gone from 30% to 100% in less than 8 hours! Isn't it coincidental that both posters have just joined the forum to tell us about this miracle? I smell not only scam, but spam! you need to learn (to read); I am black-dog and the other guy is robsoni. And I am suspicious too about 100%. My "user test" show me 30% but not 100%. I am sorry but I do not have any test device. I am quite sure that you need a batmax for you brain (sorry, I don't know where to get one  )anyway I give you my feed back : My Qtek S200 battery was at 73% and I use TCPMP for viewing 100 mn movies and then it was at 52%. I've never test this case but it's seems to be significant. It's my feeling and my experience. and this will be my very last contribution? Some of you are not realy serious in this forum. You not even paid 9 USD for a try. But YOU KNOW EVERYTHING. so long black-dog |
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Aug 1 2007, 19:02
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Newbie Group: Posters Posts: 4 Joined: 24th July 2007 Member No.: 281,350 Device(s): iMac |
QUOTE(Metoo @ Aug 1 2007, 10:01) Wow, the improvement's gone from 30% to 100% in less than 8 hours! Isn't it coincidental that both posters have just joined the forum to tell us about this miracle? I smell not only scam, but spam! you need to learn (to read); I am black-dog and the other guy is robsoni. And I am suspicious too about 100%. My "user test" show me 30% but not 100%. I am sorry but I do not have any test device. I am quite sure that you need a batmax for you brain (sorry, I don't know where to get one )anyway I give you my feed back : My Qtek S200 battery was at 73% and I use TCPMP for viewing 100 mn movies and then it was at 52%. I've never test this case but it's seems to be significant. It's my feeling and my experience. and this will be my very last contribution? Some of you are not realy serious in this forum. You not even paid 9 USD for a try. But YOU KNOW EVERYTHING. so long black-dog |
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Aug 1 2007, 19:21
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Diehard Group: Posters Posts: 497 Joined: 18th August 2004 Member No.: 53,335 |
black-dog - Yes I can read. That's why I said "both posters". Plural. Geddit?
As I said before, the perceived improvement is probably just due to deep-cycling the battery, which can revitilise it a little and also recalibrates the internal battery "meter". The lab "tests" will be much the same as they're doing full charge/discharges in succession which rarely happens in real life. (Note they gave no details on what the history/charge pattern of the battery was before they began the tests). If you don't believe that can make a difference (even to Lithium), look on TreoCentral for posts on maximising battery life on the Treo 680. Still, if you're happy with your purchase, that's fine. I guess it's only a matter of time before manufacturers find out about this amazing discovery and start supplying them as standard with all their phones and PDAs. |
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