The official Celio REDFLY 'Ask Paul' thread |
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 May 15 2008, 23:12
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 The Main Man  Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,598 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage  |
 The Celio REDFLY Mobile Companion (detailed here) is 'a sleek clamshell design that includes an 8" display, a full function keyboard, and a touchpad mouse. Measuring just 1x6x9 inches and only 2 pounds, the REDFLY Mobile Companion offers over 8 hours of battery life and boots instantly! It also adds three new features - instant VGA output, access to USB flash drives, and the ability to charge your smartphone via USB.' I'll be using it primarily with my HTC Kaiser, but it's pictured here connected to the latest hotness, the HTC Diamond! The REDFLY is priced at $500, which some have said is a too high pricepoint. As prices of Eee type devices continue to rise and bearing in mind that as you upgrade your mobile devices in the future the REDFLY continues to work (therefore becoming a longer term investment)... does this seem more reasonable? That's my current thinking, but i'm interested to hear your thoughts! Stay tuned for a full review coming soon, but hit me with any questions you have in the interim!  P PS Don't forget to check out the Celio Interview if you haven't already! -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 16 2008, 01:23
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 Blackjack'd Group: Moderator Team Posts: 4,185 Joined: 18th April 2003 From: Mt Laurel, NJ USA Member No.: 4,796 Device(s): Motorola Q9h/iPhone |
Didnt understand Palm's version of this (forget the name but I'm sure it died faster than the time it took them to develop it)...and dont get this one either!
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May 16 2008, 03:02
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 Diehard  Group: Posters Posts: 323 Joined: 2nd March 2005 From: Toowoomba, Australia Member No.: 114,331 Device(s): Treo 750 |
QUOTE(encece @ May 16 2008, 11:23)  Didnt understand Palm's version of this (forget the name but I'm sure it died faster than the time it took them to develop it)...and dont get this one either! Palm Foleo... man that thing sank fast didn't it? Basically I'd go for the EeePC any day. You can't install Firefox on the Redfly. If it was like 1lb instead of 2, i'd understand This post has been edited by bennish: May 16 2008, 03:04 -------------------- |
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May 16 2008, 07:37
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,598 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
QUOTE(encece @ May 16 2008, 02:23) Didnt understand Palm's version of this (forget the name but I'm sure it died faster than the time it took them to develop it)...and dont get this one either! Palm's was the Foleo, and was slightly different as it had it's own OS (Linux). P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 16 2008, 07:37
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,598 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
QUOTE(bennish @ May 16 2008, 04:02) Palm Foleo... man that thing sank fast didn't it? Basically I'd go for the EeePC any day. You can't install Firefox on the Redfly. If it was like 1lb instead of 2, i'd understand No, as it doesn't have it's own OS, but you can install Opera on your device P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 16 2008, 07:46
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 JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM JAM Group: Posters Posts: 496 Joined: 8th April 2003 From: london Member No.: 4,481 Device(s): I-MATE JAM |
i know it's off topic but i'd rather get your low down on the phone sitting on top of the redfly!
-------------------- bart to lisa - "if you don't watch the violence you'll never get desensitized to it"
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May 16 2008, 08:28
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 Regular  Group: Posters Posts: 68 Joined: 9th June 2005 Member No.: 133,887 Device(s): HTC Trinity, HTC Diamond |
QUOTE(Paul (MVP) @ May 15 2008, 23:12) The REDFLY is priced at $500, which some have said is a too high pricepoint. As prices of Eee type devices continue to rise and bearing in mind that as you upgrade your mobile devices in the future the REDFLY continues to work (therefore becoming a longer term investment)... does this seem more reasonable? That's my current thinking, but i'm interested to hear your thoughts! That's what I thought of the significantly cheaper ThinkOutside Bluetooth keyboard. In the end though, I only ever used it with my iPAQ 2210 as ThinkOutside never released Windows Mobile 5 drivers, let alone 6 or 6.1. Hopefully there will be some longevity in the Redfly, especially with Windows Mobile 7 purportedly coming out at the end of this year. Or does it use generic bluetooth HID drivers? I suspect not. |
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May 16 2008, 10:12
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 Did I say that out loud? Group: News Team Posts: 4,527 Joined: 20th August 2003 From: Kent, England Member No.: 13,469 Device(s): Kaiser, Touch |
I might be the only one, but I like these things.
There have been LOADS of times when I've wanted to send a long email, for example, and (even when my PDA had a keyboard) I decided to wait until I had my laptop to hand. My one concern (apart from price) is battery life and whether it's tough enough. To be useful it has to be the sort of thing I can fling in a rucksack and forget about until I need it. |
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May 16 2008, 10:24
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 Regular Group: Posters Posts: 55 Joined: 25th November 2003 Member No.: 22,060 |
so if I wanted one, where would I get one and pay 500 dollars for one?
also apart from opera what other third party aps are upscaled? em....does TCMP/Core media player upscale or does it depend on the original resolution of the video? does WM 6.1 work ok or is it only WM 6.0? i'm probably the only person interested in this as the eee pc has no bluetooth for me to use my phone to get online when i'm out plus I would need to upgrade my web&walk package but with a celio redfly I won't plus I can do my other stuff as well. |
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May 16 2008, 10:58
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 Moderator - Boing! Group: Admin Team Posts: 8,579 Joined: 12th December 2002 From: Guildford, UK Member No.: 993 Device(s): HTC TyTN II |
chucky: All the stuff i've read from people who got pre-production units seem to imply its pretty robust. The battery is tipped to last up to 8 hours!
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May 16 2008, 11:30
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Enthusiast  Group: Posters Posts: 174 Joined: 30th July 2005 Member No.: 141,775 Device(s): HTC Touch Dual - 20 key EU |
I'm thinking it might make a nice tool to watch videos on the way to work, then use in meetings with customers. Not at $500 though, maybe closer to £100 :-)
Therefore, does it play video well? And where does the sound come out?? |
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May 16 2008, 13:02
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 Regular Group: Posters Posts: 85 Joined: 6th December 2004 From: Gothenburg, Sweden. Member No.: 100,625 Device(s): Motorola Q9h |
Paul,
Is it just enterprise thast can purchase them or can anyone purchase them right now? -------------------- Current mobile devices: IPOD Classic 160GB, HTC Advantage, Nokia E61i, Motorola Q9h, Nokia N95 8GB, HP IPAQ 614
Laptop: HP Pavilion 6275ea Acessories: Huawei E220, Novatell Wireless XU870 and X950D express cards. |
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May 16 2008, 14:59
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,598 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
QUOTE(chucky.egg @ May 16 2008, 11:12) I might be the only one, but I like these things. There have been LOADS of times when I've wanted to send a long email, for example, and (even when my PDA had a keyboard) I decided to wait until I had my laptop to hand. My one concern (apart from price) is battery life and whether it's tough enough. To be useful it has to be the sort of thing I can fling in a rucksack and forget about until I need it. Battery life is DEFINITELY not an issue, 8 hours at least while charging your phone. It also seems VERY durable, and has as lovely soft touch coating. P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 16 2008, 15:00
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,598 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
QUOTE(unicron @ May 16 2008, 11:24) so if I wanted one, where would I get one and pay 500 dollars for one? also apart from opera what other third party aps are upscaled? em....does TCMP/Core media player upscale or does it depend on the original resolution of the video? does WM 6.1 work ok or is it only WM 6.0? i'm probably the only person interested in this as the eee pc has no bluetooth for me to use my phone to get online when i'm out plus I would need to upgrade my web&walk package but with a celio redfly I won't plus I can do my other stuff as well. You can order them on the site - http://www.celiocorp.com - and I believe everyone can order one. All apps are upscaled! Note that TCPMP et al don't perform acceptably at this time, although Celio expect multimedia optimisations to come in a future build. P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 16 2008, 15:01
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,598 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
QUOTE(Monolithix @ May 16 2008, 11:58) chucky: All the stuff i've read from people who got pre-production units seem to imply its pretty robust. The battery is tipped to last up to 8 hours! What he said  ... except it can last OVER 8 hours!P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 16 2008, 15:02
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,598 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
QUOTE(nuttyphilt @ May 16 2008, 12:30) I'm thinking it might make a nice tool to watch videos on the way to work, then use in meetings with customers. Not at $500 though, maybe closer to £100 :-) Therefore, does it play video well? And where does the sound come out?? No, video isn't a valid usage scenario at this time. P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 16 2008, 15:02
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Regular Group: Posters Posts: 85 Joined: 6th December 2004 From: Gothenburg, Sweden. Member No.: 100,625 Device(s): Motorola Q9h |
Paul:
Could you try the IPAQ 614 and see how it works wiht your redfly? -------------------- Current mobile devices: IPOD Classic 160GB, HTC Advantage, Nokia E61i, Motorola Q9h, Nokia N95 8GB, HP IPAQ 614
Laptop: HP Pavilion 6275ea Acessories: Huawei E220, Novatell Wireless XU870 and X950D express cards. |
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May 16 2008, 15:03
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The Main Man Group: Admin Team Posts: 20,598 Joined: 6th November 2002 From: Norwich, UK Member No.: 1 Device(s): HTC Advantage |
QUOTE(micaels @ May 16 2008, 14:02) Paul, Is it just enterprise thast can purchase them or can anyone purchase them right now? Everyone I think, altho I will clarify that. P -------------------- Paul O'Brien - Microsoft MVP, Mobile Devices, MoDaCo.network Founder. Check out my Blog! £10 off a £20 spend at eXpansys - click for details |
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May 16 2008, 18:06
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 Regular Group: Posters Posts: 112 Joined: 28th July 2007 From: Ohio, USA Member No.: 282,809 Device(s): TyTn II |
It looks like a mid 90s attempt at a laptop. It really doesn't strike me as a high-tech piece of "must-have" technology. I think that is what companies should striving to create.
-------------------- Tired of waiting for the Tilt, Kaiser, P4550, 8925, Vario III, TyTn II.
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May 16 2008, 18:09
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Enthusiast Group: MoDaCo Ad Free Posts: 265 Joined: 11th January 2006 From: North Essex Member No.: 167,028 Device(s): Orange TyTNII |
QUOTE(encece @ May 16 2008, 01:23) Didnt understand Palm's version of this (forget the name but I'm sure it died faster than the time it took them to develop it)...and dont get this one either! Fraid I am with you! Don't get it at all 
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