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T-Mobile to turn on HSDPA service on 1st August

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Haven't read this thread for a while, thought it had been done to death!

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I love browsing on 3G but you can never have enough speed! How ever fast it is you always want it to be faster, not having tried HSDPA I don't know how it will perform in real life.

Only way to find out if T is flexible is to ask, but I would have thought that if they can get out of giving you the 25% off they would!

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I love browsing on 3G but you can never have enough speed! How ever fast it is you always want it to be faster, not having tried HSDPA I don't know how it will perform in real life.

Only way to find out if T is flexible is to ask, but I would have thought that if they can get out of giving you the 25% off they would!

The way i see it is that if they are flexible they will get more money from me than less.

I wont change my contract if i lose the 25% on everything. But if they let me keep the 25% on the Flext AND also allow me to change to HSDPA (with or without 25%) they will get more money from me.

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I wont change my contract if i lose the 25% on everything. But if they let me keep the 25% on the Flext AND also allow me to change to HSDPA (with or without 25%) they will get more money from me.

Only way to find out is to ask T! Let us know what they say.

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implies that there may well be a very long wait for those of us holding out for a Hemes to show up before we make the jump to T....

And I so want to leave O....

You could always go SIM only for a few months until the right handset comes along. That's what I'm doing and quite a few others too. Yep and it looks like the Hermes is the "right handset" for me too if the deal is right...

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Only way to find out is to ask T! Let us know what they say.

I tried calling, but they know nothing as yet. CS are totally not in the loop and i couldnt be bothered with going through the hassle of getting through to someone that would know.

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What's so great about HSDPA? Okay, so the data rate will be 2-3 times that of release 99 and the latency will come down from ~250ms to ~100ms... but is that really important? TBH 300kbps and 250ms is already fantastic and doesn't need improvement.

HSDPA also isn't as mobile as release 99 due to not being able to support soft hand over.

Why are people excited about HSDPA?

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Well, most of that went over my head so I'm definately not qualified to answer that! :)

EDIT: on second thoughts, you've already said yourself that the data rate will be 2-3 times. Remember that faster transfer rates will always be considered better when it comes to data...

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What's so great about HSDPA? Okay, so the data rate will be 2-3 times that of release 99 and the latency will come down from ~250ms to ~100ms... but is that really important? TBH 300kbps and 250ms is already fantastic and doesn't need improvement.

HSDPA also isn't as mobile as release 99 due to not being able to support soft hand over.

Why are people excited about HSDPA?

For mobile workers the increase in data speed would be well worth it.

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Heh. That's what i said :)

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Ah, but release 99 is more mobile....

Does anyone know what releae 99 is? clv101 can you explain?

All we know is data transfer rates will be faster on HSDPA - isn't that a good thing?

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All we know is data transfer rates will be faster on HSDPA - isn't that a good thing?

I said that too! :)

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Sorry, release 99 is the 384kbps dedicated channels we're using today. HSDPA is release 5, which instead of allocating dedicated channels to each user just uses one shared channel, with users allocated time on this channel based on their instantaneous radio conditions. Users are only sent data when they are best able to receive it increasing average throughput..

Anyway... sure the data rate will be increased but so what? By the time we're at a couple of hundred kbps extra data rate really isn't very useful. Did my 512kbps -> 2mbps ADSL upgrade make much difference? Nope, not unless I'm download hundreds of mb files which isn't something anyone is going to be doing on mobile tariffs. Of course HSDPA doesn

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Sorry, release 99 is the 384kbps dedicated channels we're using today. HSDPA is release 5, which instead of allocating dedicated channels to each user just uses one shared channel, with users allocated time on this channel based on their instantaneous radio conditions. Users are only sent data when they are best able to receive it increasing average throughput..

Anyway... sure the data rate will be increased but so what? By the time we're at a couple of hundred kbps extra data rate really isn't very useful. Did my 512kbps -> 2mbps ADSL upgrade make much difference? Nope, not unless I'm download hundreds of mb files which isn't something anyone is going to be doing on mobile tariffs. Of course HSDPA doesn

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Sorry, release 99 is the 384kbps dedicated channels we're using today. HSDPA is release 5, which instead of allocating dedicated channels to each user just uses one shared channel, with users allocated time on this channel based on their instantaneous radio conditions. Users are only sent data when they are best able to receive it increasing average throughput..

Anyway... sure the data rate will be increased but so what? By the time we're at a couple of hundred kbps extra data rate really isn't very useful. Did my 512kbps -> 2mbps ADSL upgrade make much difference? Nope, not unless I'm download hundreds of mb files which isn't something anyone is going to be doing on mobile tariffs. Of course HSDPA doesn

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Thanks for the heads up.

I was just discussing BB with a coleague at work and saying that the upgrade from 512kb to 2Mb was great and that' it's even better on the "up to" 8Mb (I get between 2 and 5.5Mb usually)

Downloading large files is something I do on T-Mobile's unlimited tarrif, Hubdog can downlad videocasts and any increase in speed is always welcome!

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Guys, some of you need a cold shower! Anyway, some clarity. Some people seem to get confused about T's tarrifs... It really is quite simple.

You can add WNW option to any tarrif, for

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Not sure whag you'd do with it in the bathroom but thanks for the clarification!

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Whats the hole thing with the

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ah that's what I wanted to know. the bonus of hsdpa and modem use for the extra couple of quid are well worth it.

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