Guest WWEpsp Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 It surely HAS to be honeycomb for the Vega, why else would newbe call it "exciting"? New hardware isn't exactly exciting, and if it was a completely new tablet, why would they be talking to newbe? Correct, they dont need newbie5 for a new Vega and actually a new Vega might get people to take a look for the Asus or Acer tabs or even look for other new HC tablets... By the way Hauwei announced the first 7" inch tablet with HC (3.2), no price said but Hauwei isnt going to push the price too far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HypoTurtle Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 (edited) Correct, they dont need newbie5 for a new Vega and actually a new Vega might get people to take a look for the Asus or Acer tabs or even look for other new HC tablets... By the way Hauwei announced the first 7" inch tablet with HC (3.2), no price said but Hauwei isnt going to push the price too far I'd say they do need Newbe5. I'd describe him as a self taught android dev focused on advent vega, with contacts to some impressive people (corvus, homerS, and some contact with the forward looking ejtagle). With the guidance and instruction of Paul and newbe5 they can best instruct Advent in what they would want integrated with a new tab in terms of hardware that would be useful to developers and on the tegra drivers that need to be obtained so that they chase up Nvidia for example to ensure that future firmware driver updates will be provided. Alternatively Advent may be setting up a 'small' software support network or development team. I'm sure with corporate funding and a support structure ROM development will benefit. A device backed and inspired by these pair wouldn't be such a bad idea, but still I'd like to see HC from them, maybe this 3.2 version that i've heard once or twice will be released to more OEMs Edited June 24, 2011 by HypoTurtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WWEpsp Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'd say they do need Newbe5. I'd describe his as a self taught android dev focused on advent vega, with contacts to some impressive people (corvus, homerS, and some contact with the forward looking eaglet). With the guidance and instruction of Paul and newbe5 they can best instruct Advent in what they would want integrated with a new tab in terms of hardware that would be useful to developers and on the tegra drivers that need to be obtained so that they chase up Nvidia for example to ensure that future firmware driver updates will be provided. Alternatively Advent may be setting up a 'small' software support network or development team. I'm sure with corporate funding and a support structure ROM development will benefit. A device backed and inspired by these pair wouldn't be such a bad idea, but still I'd like to see HC from them, maybe this 3.2 version that i've heard once or twice will be released to more OEMs Oh, i didnt think about it on that way :S I read 3.2 its just 3.1 but adjusted for 7 inch screens... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest HunteronX Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I think that the surprise is a Honeycomb or Ice Cream Sandwich release from Advent. I think that they want Paul or Richard (newbe5) to get involved. :) (Damn suspense...) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Minimonkey Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Wow! just seen @Zebwen tweet (newbie5) Just had dinner with two very nice fellas from the @AdventVega team... Can't say much, but some EXCITING stuff in the works, buzzing now! Maybe this is a hint! "Buzzing Now" as in Buzzing like a bee as in bees and honey as in HONEYCOMB!..... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest premieral Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Maybe this is a hint! "Buzzing Now" as in Buzzing like a bee as in bees and honey as in HONEYCOMB!..... :) +1 LMAO B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clonmult Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'd reckon its more like to be an official HC release, or something along those lines - remember that Advent aren't actually a manufacturer as such, they just rebrand/mildly mod other peoples hardware (be it laptops, desktops or tablets). Hope its an official release, although as it stands with the Corvus5 roms, the Vega is a cracking little bit of kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest gazmon2424 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'd reckon its more like to be an official HC release, or something along those lines - remember that Advent aren't actually a manufacturer as such, they just rebrand/mildly mod other peoples hardware (be it laptops, desktops or tablets). Hope its an official release, although as it stands with the Corvus5 roms, the Vega is a cracking little bit of kit. all vega developement is being stopped..........a new tablet will be released at the end of the summer...................thanks advent!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest everett_psycho Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Oh, i didnt think about it on that way :S I read 3.2 its just 3.1 but adjusted for 7 inch screens... that's exactly what it's meant to be, i though ICS was meant to end fragmentation of the system once and for all but now they are fragmenting by screen size just before it's release :) I get the impression advent doesn't have the knowledge or team to build and support some of it's products because it really is just rebadging someone elses product and then tweaking any updates that manufacturer makes, so hopefully if theyve got newbe on board with them that might change for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest clonmult Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 all vega developement is being stopped..........a new tablet will be released at the end of the summer...................thanks advent!! Hey, you never know ... Advent themselves don't appear to have done much in the way of development, but as it stands everyone could stop releasing roms and it wouldn't matter that much - sure, it owuld be nice to always have the latest releases, but the Vega is already good enough for most uses - its not lacking anything obvious in the hardware stakes. Maybe a 1280x800 screen (with gorilla glass?), thinner, more ram, HC, GPS ..... and keep the price the same. Hehe, gotta dream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest le_lutin Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 all vega developement is being stopped..........a new tablet will be released at the end of the summer...................thanks advent!! Where did you get this information? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest phil8715 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Where did you get this information? I think it will likely be an official HC update. I don't care if Advent release a new tablet, because there will still be support for our Vega's. The beauty of Android is there are dedicated people like Newbie5 and others committed to producing these roms for nothing in their spare time where they have a family life newborns and the like. I am sure all will be revealed very soon :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest WWEpsp Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im really shure its HC for Vega. Remember those chinese clones with newbe5's VegaComb Beta?, maybe Advent want him to officialize his Rom, and make it only for Advent so in case of any copy they can legally stop those clones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MaxiP Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'd love to think / hope that this will be an 'official' HC release from Advent but unless they (or OEM) have been able to partner with Google and get source code, then there will still be limits on what any developer can achieve. AFAIK, developers need access to the kernel code to tweak for particular platforms (in particular NVidia Harmony / Ventana) and unless Google have had a moment of weakness and released code under AOSP, then I don't think we'll see full blown HC. That aside, what Newbe / Corvus & other devs have been able to do is simply staggering so perhaps with some assistance from Advent, they can enhance Vegacomb to be as if it was a 'proper' release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Minimonkey Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Im really shure its HC for Vega. Remember those chinese clones with newbe5's VegaComb Beta?, maybe Advent want him to officialize his Rom, and make it only for Advent so in case of any copy they can legally stop those clones. Sounds like your on the money! Or in Advent an newbe's case money for them.... :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wi-fli Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Here's a thought: maybe Advent have stopped official development of the vega, and are about to launch new hardware with hc, BUT met with Paul because unofficially they might be able to help back port the rom from the new hardware to the 'old' vega? Just a suggestion. Personally I think it's far more likely this all has something to do with new hardware than not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevesilk51 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 (edited) If it is Vegacomb beta made "official" I can't see what the fuss is all about. i.e. why say - quote: "but some EXCITING stuff in the works, buzzing now!" BTW I've tried the HC16 for the Adam on my Adam and compared to Vegacomb it is slooowwww. Vegacomb on the Vega superior, so mucho kudos to newbe5 et all. Edited June 24, 2011 by stevesilk51 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shutdown Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 you're all guessing and getting in a flap about it. :) you're worse than a rumour site for mac fans B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Yogimax Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 you're all guessing and getting in a flap about it. :) you're worse than a rumour site for mac fans B) Yes - but it's fun... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest stevesilk51 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Anyway people "in the works" could mean 6 months away!! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest simonta Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Anyway people "in the works" could mean 6 months away!! :) Just one point to keep in mind with all this talk of back porting and so on. DSG did not choose to leave the Google Apps of the Vega. Google never licensed them for the Vega so there is no way that they can do something like that unless they've reached a licensing agreement which, given the reasons Google did not put HC into AOSP and withheld the GAPPS from the likes of the Vega, I doubt. +1 for the rumour forum. Ultimately useless but fun, in a geeky sort of way B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Drat2 Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 I'd love to think / hope that this will be an 'official' HC release from Advent but unless they (or OEM) have been able to partner with Google and get source code, then there will still be limits on what any developer can achieve. AFAIK, developers need access to the kernel code to tweak for particular platforms (in particular NVidia Harmony / Ventana) and unless Google have had a moment of weakness and released code under AOSP, then I don't think we'll see full blown HC. That aside, what Newbe / Corvus & other devs have been able to do is simply staggering so perhaps with some assistance from Advent, they can enhance Vegacomb to be as if it was a 'proper' release. Well, google may be worried about damage to the "Honeycomb" brand from vega clones pre-installed with Newbie5 vegacomb. To them it might be better to suport an offical honeycomb release for the vega in all its forms. AFAIK not making it open source was to stop honeycomb appearing on mobile phones, not vega type tablets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest moghm Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 There is no money for advent in releasing honeycomb for the existing vega, unless they start charging for the release ?? If they do announce a new tablet, then this is not exciting news, call me a miser, but not to keen on having spent £200 (£250) for some users, to see this tablet overtaken so soon. Thats technology I guess. If they do release honeycomb for the existing vega, I will be very impressed indeed. How about existing users of this (and other forums) get rewarded for all the research, development and feedback that they have given to make this product a success. (quid pro quo). The reward would be an official release of honeycomb for existing vega users. Come on DSG I know you are listening. The devs have been amazing, but so have been the users such as me and you for all the testing, feedback and time spent on installing these roms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The Soup Thief Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 Personally I'd love to see a Vega II released, with that lovely big screen and just a few of the original's quirks sanded away - plus a slightly lower price tag I missed the boat with Vega I and am reluctant to buy a tablet that's now more than 6 mo old, even though I suspect it does everything I want Bit selfish - sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest SWOriginal Posted June 24, 2011 Report Share Posted June 24, 2011 There is no money for advent in releasing honeycomb for the existing vega, unless they start charging for the release ??. I'm not so sure about that, if advent reveal there is in upcoming honeycomb release for the Vega I'm sure there will be major sellouts of there £200 10inch tablet! , it will be pretty difficult for another manufacturer to sell a honeycomb tablet for that price. The only reason I purchased the Vega 2 weeks ago was because of vegacomb, so a 10" tegra2 honeycomb tablet will make them allot of money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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