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Flash .. bbc??

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Well I tested on t mobile and T-Mobile orange.

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I went to vodafone shop this morning and bought one. turns out it doesnt have HSUPA but its fast anyways/ And they unlocked it for free for me too :D

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Enjoy your new toy!

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Enjoy your new toy!

Yes. much faster than my blade/crescent i get 1900+ on quadrant. where i was getting 700 on the others

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Yes flash player works. I downloaded free from google play store. I can finally use Sky Sports Score Centre to check the scores without having to turn on my PC lol!

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Bit late for me to chip in then XD

Huawei Device UK commented on their wall post:

Hi, its just hsdpa. Thanks.

Reply with your comment.

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oops double post.

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Huawei Device UK commented on their wall post:

Hi, its just hsdpa. Thanks.

Yeah, I've noticed in the past that gsmarena aren't always 100% accurate.

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Daniel, Wouldn't wifi upload speed testing have worked anyway, as the phone can't upload any quicker than the phone supports anyway so it should not matter whether its over wifi or 3G. IE the wifi speed would not have affected the hardware max upload speed of the phone.

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Daniel, Wouldn't wifi upload speed testing have worked anyway, as the phone can't upload any quicker than the phone supports anyway so it should not matter whether its over wifi or 3G. IE the wifi speed would not have affected the hardware max upload speed of the phone.

Wifi and 3g are different

For example the HSDPA chip is 7.2mbps and the 3g Upload chip is 300-400K. but the wifi chip is 150Mbps. I was worrying about tethering mostly. as tethering with zte blades are a living nightmare (Ping rates of 200+). Constant freezing etc. but for example with my x10 mini which has HSUPA (In HSPA) its almost like HSPA+ (Minus the speeds) and with pings in the region of 60-90MS

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Cheers for that. I was looking at it as one chip that does the upload which is obviously wrong.

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Resurrecting this thread....

Can anyone tell me why or when the flash (BBC iplayer) on this isn't optimised as well as I thought it would be...? Im sure it could be better with a 1ghz procesor... I've heard or read someone saying that it's due to the Cortex chip or somet...?!

Anyone want to shed some light in this for me and tell me whether there's a chance Flash player might be optimised going forward...?

Thanks

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I get smooth playback with iplayer and with live BBC flash streams? Are you not getting that? Also tvcatchup flash streams play smoothly (all the FREEVIEW channels live plus some more) - just don't try the highest resolutions, especially HD.

Eats the battery up though.

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I get smooth playback with iplayer and with live BBC flash streams? Are you not getting that? Also tvcatchup flash streams play smoothly (all the FREEVIEW channels live plus some more) - just don't try the highest resolutions, especially HD.

Eats the battery up though.

Sorry, don't get me wrong the playback is smooth... No problem with performance at all.

I was just querying the actual pixel quality sometimes on screen... I mean sometimes it's great but when there's some fast moving scenes it does get a 'little' blurry.

Just wish there would be some way of optimising the quality of playback...

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I was just querying the actual pixel quality sometimes on screen... I mean sometimes it's great but when there's some fast moving scenes it does get a 'little' blurry.

That sounds more like an effect of the bitrate.

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I've noticed that iplayer sometimes use a lower bit rate than it and the connection/processor/graphics can support (does this occasionally on desktops as well). How does BBC1 live at the desktop page http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbcone/watchlive/ play for you? That usually seems to give me a better image (may take a few seconds to settle down when playback first started), with fast moving action, than iplayer playing recorded streams. Might be worth checking the bit rates. On the desktop you can right click and get the current bitrate but I haven't found a way to do this with the AndroId flash player (other than checking network traffic).

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This is because it streams low by default. change it in the menu area.

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That sounds more like an effect of the bitrate.

So how can this be overcome...?

I mean my Internet (wifi) is 4.5mb and it plays iplayer perfectly fine on my iPhone... Do you think it's something to do with the actual amount of data the device can receive at one time. I say that because when I do a speedtest using the speedtester app it rarely goes above 1.5mb (my line is definitely faster than that though...

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So how can this be overcome...?

I mean my Internet (wifi) is 4.5mb and it plays iplayer perfectly fine on my iPhone...

I've also changed the settings in iplayer to high quality but no difference...?

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If you are using the speedtest app from speedtest.net it doesn't give the correct download speeds (at least for me). Running it now it says 4 mb/sec download but http://www.bandwidthtest.co.uk/ says 14mb/sec and speedtest.bbmax.co.uk got 15mb/sec - this over a Virgin Media 20mb/sec link and 802.11g wi-fi.. The figure from the speedtest app is wrong it seems.

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Are you using the Android iPlayer app or the BBC website. In the iPlayer app you can go into settings and select the required video quality between low, medium & high. If just using the BBC website I don't think you can select the quality.

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So what can explain the quality deterioration (with flash)...?

The exact same thing happens when I downloaded the Crackle app and watch videos on there...

I do suspect the bitrate being an issue or is it because the phone can only handle so much data at any one time...?

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So what can explain the quality deterioration (with flash)...?

The exact same thing happens when I downloaded the Crackle app and watch videos on there...

I do suspect the bitrate being an issue or is it because the phone can only handle so much data at any one time...?

What are you comparing it to?

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hsupa is not working :( or doesn't work ,i get 380kbits in upload and a very high ping (138ms) like the Blade that's verry annoying, Is there a way to turn it on ?

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okay i answer myself , i just saw that the uptate to ics activate hsupa !

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