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[OFFTOPIC] China Phone Discussion - UPDATED 30/10/2013

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Regarding Faea battery - how about this 4.5" newcomer:
Two nice MTH6589 phones from Orange product:

18.06.2013. [b]Orange G7[/b] (has [b]900[/b]/2100MHz WCDMA!)
[url="http://www.charmpin.com/disposition.jsp"]http://www.charmpin....disposition.jsp[/url]
[url="http://article.pchome.net/content-1625157.html"]http://article.pchom...nt-1625157.html[/url]

18.06.2013. [b]Orange Chasity[/b]
[url="http://jiecao.charmpin.com/parameter.jsp"]http://jiecao.charmp...m/parameter.jsp[/url]

Serious stuff, since they have their own rom (MIUI-like):
[url="http://www.charmpin.com/rom.jsp"]http://www.charmpin.com/rom.jsp[/url]

Funny thing is - they have [b]only a 1600mAh[/b] battery!!!
i wonder how they managed to design a phone with so low battery capacity?


[quote name='arranhs' timestamp='1371384371' post='2133992']
Looking at you list though ive suddenly because interested in the Zopo C2.
What is a li-polymer battery? is that better or worse than a normal lithium battery? Because if its just normal, a 2000 mAh battery looks a bit small especially for a 1080p screen
Also, does anyone know how much a 1080p screen will slow down the phone because that is really the only thing im worried about a 1080p phone.[/quote]

Zopo C2 is no-no at present. I`ve been reading thru their forum and found this:
- they have 3-4 different versions distinguished by stickers inside battery compartment and back color and can`t explain to customers version difference
- they have problems with battery charging

Li-polymer doesn`t differ much from Li-ion, and 2000mAh is the capacity - it gets empty at nearly the same time as any other battery type of the same capacity.
It only may be a bit thinner and lighter if it has higher energy density.

CPU suffers from higher resolutions - take a look at average atuntu scores for FHD and QHD screens (I`d say 10-15% difference) so
there is a buying rule:
If you`re a gamer buy a lower resolution phone
If you want to show-off, buy a 5"er @ 1920*1080 and enjoy the screen clarity in front of your nose :P Edited by dakok
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zte skate is 1800mah battery, and with a terrible processor lasts halfaday, no way, I'm waiting for this jiayu g4. 3000mah is my minimum
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For those looking for a smaller phone than 5" the Lenovo A820 seems like a good choice:
[url="http://www.merimobiles.com/lenovo-a820-4-5-inch-android-4-1-quad-core1-2ghz-dual-sim3g-smartphone-gps_p/meri9016.htm"]http://www.merimobil..._p/meri9016.htm[/url]

A well known brand and cheap at $160.
Downsides are the low resolution screen and lack of flash for the camera. Am I missing something?
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[quote name='JetKun' timestamp='1371395896' post='2134052']
zte skate is 1800mah battery, and with a terrible processor lasts halfaday, no way, I'm waiting for this jiayu g4. 3000mah is my minimum
[/quote]


zte [url="http://www.gsmarena.com/zte_skate-3784.php"]skate[/url] actually has a 1400mah battery,
and with a weak CPU the phone takes longer to finish tasks using more battery I would guess.

If the G4 was not so overpriced it would probably be my first choice.
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looks like the Faea F1 can be bought straight from the manufactures website for ¥ 799 / £82.99
[url="http://shop.faea.com.cn/goods.php?id=46"]http://shop.faea.com...goods.php?id=46[/url]

i'v just sent an email asking if i can have it delivered to the UK, although i doubt they will...

looks like its getting a few of the Chinese ROMs including MIUI V5

[i]"a. penguin F1 is the original eco-Andrews 4.1 system that we have and the number of ROM production team, six months began to brush MIUI V5 system, [/i]
[i]Baidu cloud, Le Frog and other systems, specific detailed official forum announcement;"[/i]
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[quote name='rob4x4' timestamp='1371311458' post='2133788']
I'm seriously thinking about the Newman K1 instead of the Vowney/Verne V5.
Its only £15 more but the camera should be better quality (f2.2) and battery is slightly bigger (2500 instead of 2400).
But more importantly I can get silicon covers and screen protectors easily on ebay for a couple of quid.
Apart from that the phones look almost identical in spec.
Am I missing something?

Also, would anyone be willing to help me build CMW or TWRP for it if I got one?
[/quote]

My brother is seriously interested in my V5 but I don't really want to order two phones that are exactly the same, just in case they turn out to be faulty. As I have said before I like to minimise the risk, so I was looking at the K1 too. ...Didn't [b]bryfly[/b] order one of these the same time he ordered his V5? I'd be interested in what he has to say about the K1.

[quote name='tillaz' timestamp='1371402276' post='2134079']
looks like the Faea F1 can be bought straight from the manufactures website for ¥ 799 / £82.99
[url="http://shop.faea.com.cn/goods.php?id=46"]http://shop.faea.com...goods.php?id=46[/url]

i'v just sent an email asking if i can have it delivered to the UK, although i doubt they will...
[/quote]

Nice phone too bad the screen isn't 5". Edited by Rico_89
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[quote name='Rico_89' timestamp='1371409032' post='2134101']


Didn't [b]bryfly[/b] order one of these the same time he ordered his V5? I'd be interested in what he has to say about the K1.
[/quote]

Would like to tell you about it but despite it being despatched before my V5 it did not track and has not arrived, got to raise a paypal dispute on 19/5 if it has not arrived, merimobiles say it will but im not confident......
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[quote name='Rico_89' timestamp='1371409032' post='2134101']
Nice phone too bad the screen isn't 5".
[/quote]

i'm not a fan of 5 inch phones, but the Faea F2 is 5 inch 1080p, not sure what the price is though.
[url="http://www.gizmochina.com/2013/06/03/faea-f2-5-inch-1080p-quad-core-android-phone-preview/"]http://www.gizmochin...-phone-preview/[/url]

[u][b]edit:[/b][/u]
$239.99 / £152
[url="http://www.android-inside.com/faea-f2-5-inch-1080p-screen-quad-core-android-phone.html"]http://www.android-inside.com/faea-f2-5-inch-1080p-screen-quad-core-android-phone.html[/url]
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Fly-UI OS supports models:
Newman N2, iOcean X7, Xiaocai G6, Jiayu G4

[url="http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=412689&uk=704780187#dir/path=%2F%E7%AB%8B%E5%8D%B3%E4%B8%8B%E8%BD%BD"]http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=412689&uk=704780187#dir/path=%2F%E7%AB%8B%E5%8D%B3%E4%B8%8B%E8%BD%BD[/url]
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Hey tillaz just wondering if you know how I could boost in call volume as its a bit low on my V5, saw you commented on another similar post about a Hauwei so just though i'd ask...
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g4 is only 50quid more than the v5,plus it's better in every way, and still way cheaper than theequivalent handset hereithink
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[quote name='Sere83' timestamp='1371419787' post='2134147']
Hey tillaz just wondering if you know how I could boost in call volume as its a bit low on my V5, saw you commented on another similar post about a Hauwei so just though i'd ask...
[/quote]

have you checked the service menu for a dual mic option ?

try entering this in the phone [color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif][size=1]* # * # 4636 # * # * to bring up the menu[/size][/font][/color]
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[quote name='tillaz' timestamp='1371420870' post='2134153']
have you checked the service menu for a dual mic option ?

try entering this in the phone [color=#444444][font=arial, sans-serif][size=1]* # * # 4636 # * # * to bring up the menu[/size][/font][/color]
[/quote]

Just tried that and it says:

Phone information
Battery Information
Usage Statistics
WLAN Information

No reference to dual mic as far as i can see
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[quote name='JetKun' timestamp='1371420633' post='2134150']
g4 is only 50quid more than the v5,plus it's better in every way, and still way cheaper than theequivalent handset hereithink
[/quote]

Not that much - it`s only $219 at [url="http://www.buysku.com/wholesale/jiayu-g4-basic-android-4-2-mtk6589-quad-core-4-7-inch-hd-ips-retina-screen-13mp-camera-gps-1gb-4gb-3g-smartphone-white.html"]BySku[/url]
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[quote name='bryfly' timestamp='1371409308' post='2134106']
Would like to tell you about it but despite it being despatched before my V5 it did not track and has not arrived, got to raise a paypal dispute on 19/5 if it has not arrived, merimobiles say it will but im not confident......
[/quote]

Wow bad luck.. I hope it does arrive though would like to see a comparison with the V5.

[quote name='tillaz' timestamp='1371411913' post='2134117']
i'm not a fan of 5 inch phones, but the Faea F2 is 5 inch 1080p, not sure what the price is though.
[url="http://www.gizmochina.com/2013/06/03/faea-f2-5-inch-1080p-quad-core-android-phone-preview/"]http://www.gizmochin...-phone-preview/[/url]

[u][b]edit:[/b][/u]
$239.99 / £152
[url="http://www.android-inside.com/faea-f2-5-inch-1080p-screen-quad-core-android-phone.html"]http://www.android-i...roid-phone.html[/url]
[/quote]

Nice phone and a good price.. Yet another HTC butterfly clone though lol they must love that HTC in China, but clones don't bother me any more once the specs are right then I don't mind.

[quote name='JetKun' timestamp='1371420633' post='2134150']
g4 is only 50quid more than the v5,plus it's better in every way, and still way cheaper than theequivalent handset hereithink
[/quote]

Only one way, it has gorilla glass and after that it's personal preference. Also £50 is almost half the price of a V5, BySky seem to have it at £140 but yet again that's preorder and that seems to be the full white version which is a show stopper for me.
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[quote name='dakok' timestamp='1371451281' post='2134182']
Not that much - it`s only $219 at [url="http://www.buysku.com/wholesale/jiayu-g4-basic-android-4-2-mtk6589-quad-core-4-7-inch-hd-ips-retina-screen-13mp-camera-gps-1gb-4gb-3g-smartphone-white.html"]BySku[/url]
[/quote]

£134 for the Jiayu G4 Basic on pre-order? Think I might hold out and wait until its widely available if its going to be around that price. Its only the 1800 battery though so I wonder how much more the 3000 battery model will be? Thats the one I'm interested in :D
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There will be 2 variants: 1800mAh (thin phone) and 3000mAh (fat phone)
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For those looking for 4.5" and 4.7" screens, there`s an interesting spanish forum:
[url="http://www.movilesdualsim.com/foro/forums/167-MT6589-menos-de-5"]http://www.movilesdualsim.com/foro/forums/167-MT6589-menos-de-5[/url]
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posted in Vowney thread but nobody around..

Done something to the V5 , switch on screen is frozen locked ,nothing works, only place I can get is into factory mode, got 8 headings all in Chinese, anybody know what they are in English , or what I should do now? cheers
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Make a picture and try to PM Xiaognol or Coming for help (they are chinese modaco members).

P.S. This is the reason why I don`t like phones without dedicated forums. Edited by dakok
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[quote name='dakok' timestamp='1371388489' post='2134008']
Zopo C2 is no-no at present. I`ve been reading thru their forum and found this:
- they have 3-4 different versions distinguished by stickers inside battery compartment and back color and can`t explain to customers version difference
- they have problems with battery charging

Li-polymer doesn`t differ much from Li-ion, and 2000mAh is the capacity - it gets empty at nearly the same time as any other battery type of the same capacity.
It only may be a bit thinner and lighter if it has higher energy density.

CPU suffers from higher resolutions - take a look at average atuntu scores for FHD and QHD screens (I`d say 10-15% difference) so
there is a buying rule:
If you`re a gamer buy a lower resolution phone
If you want to show-off, buy a 5"er @ 1920*1080 and enjoy the screen clarity in front of your nose :P
[/quote]

Thanks a lot dakok :D Im a gamer, so ill be sure to take you advice into account :) Plus thanks for the heads up about the C2 - very interesting i must say

[quote name='JetKun' timestamp='1371395896' post='2134052']
zte skate is 1800mah battery, and with a terrible processor lasts halfaday, no way, I'm waiting for this jiayu g4. 3000mah is my minimum
[/quote]

+1 to that. You know if you want a REALLY big battery you could wait till the Xiaomi Mi3 which has a 3600mAh battery get released :P

[quote name='tillaz' timestamp='1371399955' post='2134068']
If the G4 was not so overpriced it would probably be my first choice.
[/quote]

Fancy joining the group buying then? What's your cut off price for the G4? I would offer to buy you and JetKun one when i go to china, but i dont want the responsibility or 100's of people then asking me to buy them one as well, so sorry about that :P

Edit: oooo look at this [url="http://www.jiayu.es/software.php?soft&jiayu=G4B"]http://www.jiayu.es/software.php?soft&jiayu=G4B[/url]. The CWM is supposed to be in English which is pretty awesome Edited by arranhs
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Anyone who used EMS advise on the further steps to the UK?

Timing Site Status

2013-06-15 19:05:00 BEIJING Posting

2013-06-15 19:12:00 yonganluyingyebu Despatch from Sorting Center

2013-06-15 20:05:56 BEIJING Arrival at Sorting Center

2013-06-16 00:18:33 BEIJING Despatch from Sorting Center
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My V5 is starting in Hong Kong it seems?!
[size=1]Waybill: [/size][color=#CC0000][size=1]Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG[/size][/color]
Monday, June 17, 2013 at 22:50 Origin Service Area: [img]http://www.dhl.com/img/common/arrow.gif[/img] [url="http://www.dhl.com.hk/en/country_profile.html"]HONG KONG - HONG KONG - HONG KONG[/url]
Destination Service Area: [img]http://www.dhl.com/img/common/arrow.gif[/img] [url="http://www.dhl.co.uk/en/country_profile.html"]GATWICK - GATWICK - UK[/url] Monday, June 17, 2013 Location Time Sunday, June 16, 2013 Location Time 6 Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 22:50
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[/size] 5 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 19:27
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[/size] 4 Arrived at Sort Facility HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 12:44
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[/size] 3 Departed Facility in HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 04:46
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[/size] 2 Processed at HONG KONG - HONG KONG HONG KONG - HONG KONG 04:10
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[/size] 1 Shipment picked up HONG KONG - HONG KONG 22:29
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[/size] Edited by aliaird
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I'm a bit confused about the availability of the Jiayu G4. Some sites say they have stock, some say pre-order only. I can't find a reliable release date anywhere.
Is it a case of limited stock levels going out to certain sellers? Or a lot of sellers claiming they have stock when really they are just trying to get pre-orders?
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I really fancied a Jiayu G4 and still do but looking at the prices and your chances of getting one decided to make the jump for the vowney v5 , when the Jiayu G4 is ready and available in a few months and not at inflated prices I might get one see how it compares to my v5, theres a few niggles with the v5 but like any phone , my mate at work was complaining about is Samsung s4 with data connection problems and having to refresh it to be able to connect to net , so doesn't matter what you buy there be niggles, a least theres no major problems ive found with v5.
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