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Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 4 2007, 11:59
I thought i'd start this thread before things started to get out of hand 
The TyTN II has started shipping from a number of UK retailers - including eXpansys with http://www.modaco.com/HTC-TyTN-II-MoDaCo-Speci-t258736.html - and they'll be dropping into the hands of eager customers any time now. All the stores will tell you there's never been a launch like it... so this topic is for YOU to post if you're one of the lucky ones! Pics, loves, hates, anything... this is where it goes
And everyone - enjoy! Ooh, it feels like an early Christmas 
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Posted by: FlangeArtist Sep 4 2007, 12:24
The TyTN II has started shipping from a number of UK retailers - including eXpansys with http://www.modaco.com/HTC-TyTN-II-MoDaCo-Speci-t258736.html - and they'll be dropping into the hands of eager customers any time now. All the stores will tell you there's never been a launch like it... so this topic is for YOU to post if you're one of the lucky ones! Pics, loves, hates, anything... this is where it goes
And everyone - enjoy! Ooh, it feels like an early Christmas
P
According to eXpansys, my order is: "Item Shipped" Yipeee!
Posted by: dt11 Sep 4 2007, 12:24
Let's play a game: "Who gets the Kaiser first!" 
Mine showing up as shipped 
Posted by: Howiehowie93 Sep 4 2007, 12:28
Hi,
only ordered mine at 10:18 today and by midday the order tracker says it's shipped!
regards
Howie
Posted by: Hightech Sep 4 2007, 12:29
Hey makes sure you guys throw lots of pics for those of us that do not have it yet...
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 4 2007, 12:35
Mine showing up as shipped
I win that game
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Posted by: Dade Sep 4 2007, 13:56
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How about seeing who gets the RETAIL TyTN II first!?
Posted by: Mikeyb50 Sep 4 2007, 13:57
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Has anyone got a picture of the TyTN II in its original boxed packaging, I've only ever seen pictures of it in a plain white box.... just thought it'd be cool to see it being shown opened up from a HTC packaged box, then you know its really here........
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 4 2007, 14:10
Dade's is waiting for him at home, post here is SLOW, so he'll win that one I think
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Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 15:41
I got mine this morning from Hugh Symonds, and am already impressed, certainly better than my Hermes....
I LIKE...
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 15:42
Gimme a minute, I'll upload...
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 15:53
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Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 4 2007, 16:16
Lookgs great!! I want one SO much, but does anyone know or advise on the following........
Im with vodafone and want to be 3G enabled - If I buy this SIM-FREE from another company (anyone else selling one other than expansys?) how can I get it for 3G and the fast internet connections?
simon
Posted by: Hightech Sep 4 2007, 16:18
very nice very nice dam nice
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 4 2007, 16:18
Er, as long as you have a 3G SIM it'll be fine.
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Posted by: Hightech Sep 4 2007, 16:21
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How would one know if there SIM card is 3G???
Posted by: Re-D Sep 4 2007, 16:26
I have a 5 years old sim card at vodafone and there is no problem using even with HSDPA (3,5G). So if you have to have a contract with your provider then you able to use 3G on any devices. In our country it can be done with a simple SMS to them and they are automaticly activating/deactivating the service or i can change it at MyVodafone or call the CS (Costumer service). For more information contact with your provider.
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 4 2007, 16:26
Hi Paul, I think that is the problem I am faced with - As far as I know its not 3G enabled - I only get GPRS.
So ... if I get the modaco offer.... do I go back to Vodafone to get a 3G card or something (SIM) ?
Sorry for the dumb question, but wanted to be sure what I am doing is right !
Simon
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 16:26
@Hightec - There should be a "G" on your SIM as part of its IMEI
@Sonicr360 - Vodafone are bringing this out in the next few weeks as the V1615, if you don't have a 3G card you should be able to get yours swapped for around £10 - £20. I'm not sure if my supplier deals direct to the public, however you could always try as they are UK distributers for HTC have a look at http://www.hughsymons.com/
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 4 2007, 16:37
Hi damianbyrne,
Ok well I spoke to Vodafone business centre (where my mobile is registered with) and they tell me that I do not need to do anything and it should just "work".
Tried to explain I have never had 3G before, but she believes it will just work without doing anything. I think she may have got the wrong end of the stick here !
I have an old XDA EXEC and I am sure that was 3G enabled so I can plug my SIM into this - does anyone know if you have to configure any settings on the XDA EXEC for 3G use ?
Posted by: Dade Sep 4 2007, 17:56
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Got mine this morning but I wasn't there to play with it until this afternoon!
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 17:59
Ok well I spoke to Vodafone business centre (where my mobile is registered with) and they tell me that I do not need to do anything and it should just "work".
Tried to explain I have never had 3G before, but she believes it will just work without doing anything. I think she may have got the wrong end of the stick here !
I have an old XDA EXEC and I am sure that was 3G enabled so I can plug my SIM into this - does anyone know if you have to configure any settings on the XDA EXEC for 3G use ?
You don't have to do anything to "Enable" 3G, it either works or it doesn't, what you must remember however is the coverage of 3G, if you are not in 3G coverage you will only get GPRS.
OK I have just looked at a £G Vodafone SIM I have and the format of a 3G SIM number is as follows
8944 1000 1234 5678 9012 G123 (This is not a real IMEI number, just the correct format)
The G in this case symbolises it's a 3G SIM, if your sim does not have the G, then it is not 3G
HTH
Posted by: NuShrike Sep 4 2007, 18:23
Hi damianbyrne. Very nice pics! So what accessories did you get with it in the retail boxing?
Posted by: davidjtaylor Sep 4 2007, 18:27
If i bought the tytn2 and gor a 3 uk sim would this work or do 3 work differently to the other networks?
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Posted by: thewitney Sep 4 2007, 18:54
Ok well I spoke to Vodafone business centre (where my mobile is registered with) and they tell me that I do not need to do anything and it should just "work".
Tried to explain I have never had 3G before, but she believes it will just work without doing anything. I think she may have got the wrong end of the stick here !
I have an old XDA EXEC and I am sure that was 3G enabled so I can plug my SIM into this - does anyone know if you have to configure any settings on the XDA EXEC for 3G use ?
I'm afraid it will not work. Your SIM will not be 3G unless you have had a 3G sim card upgrade in the past. I bought a TyTn 1 and had to purchase a new sim card to access 3g speeds etc.
Posted by: wi11 Sep 4 2007, 19:13
Hmm, now I'm worrying my old Vario sim card won't provide 3g support 
Posted by: Hightech Sep 4 2007, 19:28
@Sonicr360 - Vodafone are bringing this out in the next few weeks as the V1615, if you don't have a 3G card you should be able to get yours swapped for around £10 - £20. I'm not sure if my supplier deals direct to the public, however you could always try as they are UK distributers for HTC have a look at http://www.hughsymons.com/
Yea it say 3G on my SIM card.. Yea can not wait to get the KAiser now...
Posted by: Hightech Sep 4 2007, 19:30
I really really Hate all of you that Have a Kaiser already.. Just Kidding guy please post pic.
Thanks
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 19:41
Hi Nushrike
Accessory wise, not that much really, typical HTC stuff.
- 3 Pin charger
- Suedette style soft case
- Headset
- USB connector
- Spare stylus
- 2 CDs - Getting Started and Appication Disc containing Sprite Backup, GRPS Monitor and TomTom Navigator 6.
- Free City Map for TomTom 6
- Screen scratch protector
- Read me first booklet
- User Manual
- HTC Care contact details
- Warranty Card
- Licence terms for Windows Mobile 6
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 19:43
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David
I believe the 3 Sim won't work as they use Usims rather than the standard sims, AFAIK these sims only work with 3 branded devices.
Might be worth trying though, you never know.
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 19:46
If you don't have a 3G Sim, just call up your provider, it's in their best interest to send you one as you access data a hell of a lot faster (therefore your data usage will be higher), the only way they may not want to do this is if you're on an unlimited data tariff.
Be warned though, if you are on a Pay as you go data package, be VERY careful, I managed to rack up a £300 bill in a month using a 3G sim on a Hermes, apparently this device is 3.5G therefore even faster...
Posted by: J273 Sep 4 2007, 19:56
Is there no included case?
Posted by: Dade Sep 4 2007, 20:11
Thanks
I can go one step better than pictures if you want to check out an unbox video?
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/09/04/htc_tytn_ii_first_retail_unbox
And yes there is a half decent case included.
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 20:20
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/09/04/htc_tytn_ii_first_retail_unbox
And yes there is a half decent case included.
Now thats just showing off
- did you do all that in one take...... lol
Posted by: J273 Sep 4 2007, 20:21
http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/09/04/htc_tytn_ii_first_retail_unbox
And yes there is a half decent case included.
Wow very nice...Cant wait to get mine now.
Didn't realize you where the guy from Tracyanmatt.co.uk.
Always love your unboxing vids
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 20:21
Oops yes, a soft suedette case
Posted by: Dade Sep 4 2007, 20:31
- did you do all that in one take...... lolAlways in one take and most of the time I havent seen the stuff until the video. Some say it's dirty but it's my raw style!
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 20:44
There's nothing wrong with dirty and raw. I once had.... (ok not for here)
nice vid though, have you got the GPS working yet, I have updated the QuickGPS but TomTom 6 wont pick the GPS up, I have tried with the only available GPS receivers and COM ports (4 & 7) but nothing, might have to hard reset and try the included TomTom rather than my boxed version.
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 4 2007, 21:02
Use COM4 @ 4800, DON'T fiddle with any of the settings in 'External GPS'!
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Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 4 2007, 21:39
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In that case, erm
Does anyone have the default settings for the "External GPS Settings". It's for a mate of course, not me...
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 4 2007, 21:42
Programs -> GPS Program Port COM4
Hardware -> GPS hardware port 'none', baud rate 4800
Access -> Tick check box.
Somehow i've managed to totally lose GPS before by messing with that stuff, fixed only by a hard reset!
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Posted by: philg2000 Sep 5 2007, 05:42
Does the TYTNII fit in the Orginal Hermes Brodit car holder, anyone know?
Is the USB port in the same place (looks like it from photos...)
Posted by: Neil5459 Sep 5 2007, 06:27
I believe the 3 Sim won't work as they use Usims rather than the standard sims, AFAIK these sims only work with 3 branded devices.
Might be worth trying though, you never know.
Since January this year, 3 have relaxed their rules on using non-3 sourced phones, and a 3 USIM should work fine in any 3G device. A lot of people use 3 SIMs in Hermes PDA's so it works in principle.
The only stipulations are that the phone must be 3G, and you are not allowed to switch the band to GSM only (GSM services are provided to 3 by O2 and Orange, to whom they pay a license/traffic fee); genuine 3 phones don't allow band switching. If there is no valid 3 signal, then of course its OK to use GSM- keep the setting at 'Auto'
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 5 2007, 07:24
Is the USB port in the same place (looks like it from photos...)
Not sure if this helps, but the Tytn II fits into the Carcomm cradle made for the Hermes, so it might fit the Brodit one also.
Posted by: Simon Desser Sep 5 2007, 07:51
Mines just arrived on my desk at work. Looks gorgeous!
I wonder how much work I'm gonna get done this morning!!?? 
Posted by: gvr Sep 5 2007, 07:52
I arrived at work this morning and was greeted by what have to be the best words I've heard all year, 'Excuse me, I think this parcel is for you', I think its going to be a good day
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 5 2007, 07:57
Woohoo!
Don't forget to check out my tweak pack and must have apps in the http://Kaiser.MoDaCo.com forum
Enjoy everyone, and thanks for supporting the MoDaCo offer - it helps do cool things like this in the future
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Posted by: markeew Sep 5 2007, 08:11
Placed my order at 2pm yesterday on www.devicewire.com and even though the website says order before 4pm for next day delivery I am NOT going to receive it today. When I called to ask why their excuse was they don't have enough staff to process all the extra orders created by the demand for TyTn II. Order from this company only if you are in no rush for the device!
Posted by: travisb Sep 5 2007, 08:14
The only stipulations are that the phone must be 3G, and you are not allowed to switch the band to GSM only (GSM services are provided to 3 by O2 and Orange, to whom they pay a license/traffic fee); genuine 3 phones don't allow band switching. If there is no valid 3 signal, then of course its OK to use GSM- keep the setting at 'Auto'
I have a 3 sim performing very happily in an unlocked Palm Treo 750v. Only difference I've spotted is that it goes into roaming mode when out of 3g signal, but I still receive calls quite happily and 3 haven't said anything.
Posted by: Howiehowie93 Sep 5 2007, 09:13
Good day,
10:00 ! just as the news started on Radio 2.
Just 18 minutes short of 24 hours from ordering!
been a good day so far!
regards
Howie
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Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 09:23
I've just got mine, and must say first off I was nicely surprised by CityLink delivery form Handtec.co.uk, as I've got my Kaiser first thing in the morning on my desk at work. :) Anyway, box is lovely, as well as device itself. One unpleasant surprise, tough - putting SIM card on the fly (while device was on already), caused instant crash. :( It just switched off itself straight away after putting the card in. Not nice. :( But anyway, I'm going to explore my Kaiser today extensively, and as someone already mentioned - I wonder how much work I'll get done today. ;)
Btw, hello to all modaco users - this is my very first addition here. :)
Posted by: steveoidm Sep 5 2007, 09:26
Is the USB port in the same place (looks like it from photos...)
apparantly the usb is in a different place so no... not 100% on this though.
Posted by: m3100tony Sep 5 2007, 09:58
Dear All,
I am intreaged that so many of you appear to be buying these devices. What contracts are you all on?
I figured most people on here would be on a contract, and hence get these devices free when they are up for an upgrade (typically in month 9 of a 12 month contract for £35/month contracts on orange). Whats the deal here - why are you all buying your Kaiser when you could get this free (probably)?
If you are on SIM only deals or on pay as you go, are there any good unlimited data deals out there.
P.s. anyone know when the Kaiser is on orange!!
Thanks
Posted by: Pepeto Sep 5 2007, 10:22
Could someone post some photos with the kaiser camera at maximum quality?
thanks!
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 5 2007, 10:46
Hi Everyone
After talking to Vodafone, and talking to someone who seems to know the difference between a SIM, 3G and a phone, I have ordered a NEW SIM which will be in the post.
As someone mentioned, it was free of charge. Thanks to whoever told me this.
The "G" indicates its WAP enabled and does use GPRS - When the new SIM arrives, I have to activate for 3G
Interestingly, they could not tell me what their price plans are for this... told me to goto vodafone.co.uk - does anyone have the actual link for 3G costs?
Also, called Expansys and tried to offer the "Modoco Tytn II" - guess what?? Never heard of it .... was told this device does not exist. Explained its on their site, and they were adament it was NOT!!!
So after a lenghy debate, and giving them the link and the product code, they found it! Guys name was Rob Barclay if anyone is interested.
Just got the email to say its been orderd, however they could NOT confirm it would be sent today ! So a little annoyed - I know their service leaves alot to be desired, but I can wait.
I just hope it does not crash or cause issues like the exec does! I will be pleased to let my XDA EXEC go now, as its quite heavy (at least based on the stats between the Exec and Tytn II).
I would like to take this chance to thank Paul for all his hard work and information about this. I know there was some complaints about getting alot of emails about this, but I for one am VERY grateful for this. And what on earth is wrong with the delete key!!
For those that do not like it ... delete it! Without sites like coolsmartphone, 4winmobile.com and Mod - I do not believe most of us would have so much valuable info at our fingertips!
Well Done
Simon
P.S. Will report back my findings whenever it arrives.
Posted by: robertchinneck Sep 5 2007, 10:48
Thought people might find this page useful. It lists APNs for UK providers as well as other settings.
http://www.filesaveas.com/gprs.html
I found this page when I first flashed my T-Mobile Vario II with a HTC ROM and also when I got a HTC P3600 from Expansys. My T-Mobile SIM card worked straight away in both HTC flashed phones, but for web and email access I needed to enter my service provider's APN (for GPRS and 3G).
Rob.
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 5 2007, 10:51
Anyway, box is lovely, as well as device itself. One unpleasant surprise, tough - putting SIM card on the fly (while device was on already), caused instant crash. It just switched off itself straight away after putting the card in. Not nice. But anyway, I'm going to explore my Kaiser today extensively, and as someone already mentioned - I wonder how much work I'll get done today. Btw, hello to all modaco users - this is my very first addition here.
Er, that's by design, opening the SIM holder should power off the device.
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Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 10:57
I don't know what quality exactly this picture is, but it's the very first Kasier's picture, which I did just a while ago. I've just started off the camera, and shoot. No options tweaked, no nothing. And frankly - I am very, I mean VERY surprised with it's good quality. :)
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Posted by: sub69 Sep 5 2007, 10:59
SonicR360 -
Vodafone UK charge £1 for up to 15Mb in any one day (midnight to midnight) then something like £3 per Mb.
You can also pay £7.50 per month to get 120Mb per month for free, if you go over that limit, you'll then pay the £1 per day... as above.
(The good thing is that Vodafone Live! services like MobileTV don't eat into your data allowance, so streaming Sky Sports etc. for ages isn't a worry...)
Posted by: luis omar Sep 5 2007, 11:12
evad could you tell me how much available RAM you have after a reboot and the total amount of RAM available? thnx
Posted by: Shuflie Sep 5 2007, 11:20
Not bad, in fact good enough to guess that you're a website designer who's playing while they should be working.
Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 5 2007, 11:21
Mine came in before 08.30 this morning!!!
I hadnt even got into the office and it was there waiting for me on the desk!!
Great little device, havnt really done much with it. EXCELLENT packaging...like the box a lot. It does come with a case, but expansys didnt list that on the description so I got two!! Nevermind, one of the guys at work bouhgt it off me as it fits his phone in quite nicely too!!
I will have more of a play when I get home, I need to get some applications installed and then i will give it a real thrashing...
EDIT:
My reception seems really poor in the TyTN II compared to the old TyTN/M3100 I have.
Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 5 2007, 11:47
has anyone managed to get google maps working with the inbuilt GPS receiver? Do I need to do anything special to make it work?
My "External GPS Settings" are as they were out of the box, yet google maps does not seem to want to connect properly.
Posted by: Samuran Sep 5 2007, 11:48
Good Afternoon All
I wish I could say I have got my Kaiser but its just so expensive! I think I'm going to have to wait till the operators start offering it and go with them... probably from T-mobile.
I don't supposed anyone has anymore news on when the operators will start offering this?
Cheers
Ben
Posted by: pestekkorna Sep 5 2007, 12:37
I wish I could say I have got my Kaiser but its just so expensive! I think I'm going to have to wait till the operators start offering it and go with them... probably from T-mobile.
I wish I could say I got one too but unfortunately I still have to wait.
If I buy the Kaiser on USA site, will the warranty be valid in europe (france)?
Thank you for your attention and enjoy your tytn!!!
Peste
Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 12:46
I have already installed whole bunch of my favorite applications, so the amounts are not related to the out-of-the-box device, however at the moment I have 101.38 MB total RAM, and 70.04 MB free.
Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 12:47
Hehe, Zend rules!
Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 12:49
My "External GPS Settings" are as they were out of the box, yet google maps does not seem to want to connect properly.
Google Maps are working out of the box with built-in GPS chip. No changes in configuration needed. Same with Tom Tom, however it took few minutes for GPS to fix position. Maybe you should wait longer - it usually takes a while before GPS data is obtained, especially with brand new devices...
Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 5 2007, 12:51
Not working at all for me, I dont have TomTom installed yet to try. But it's as if my GPS unit doesnt actually work...I will have to get tomtom installed and then try I guess...
Posted by: zen123 Sep 5 2007, 13:10
How sensitive is the GPS receiver?
I have a HTC Trinity which uses Qualcomm chip & HTC Artemis the Sirf III chip. I always go back to the Artemis as the GPS is much more sensitve.
Posted by: magic_peanuts Sep 5 2007, 13:34
I have a HTC Trinity which uses Qualcomm chip & HTC Artemis the Sirf III chip. I always go back to the Artemis as the GPS is much more sensitve.
Prepare to be disappointed, this is a Qualcomm chip too.
Posted by: magic_peanuts Sep 5 2007, 13:37
This is worrying - 3G signal or normal?
Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 5 2007, 13:54
Both I would say.
As for the GPS...I still cant seem to get google maps to connect. It doesnt do anything!! It's almost as if Google Maps times out too quickly while waiting for the GPS to pick up satellites.
IS there a way of testing the GPS unit itself and just viewing lat/long data etc? I dont know whats going on...it doesnt seem to work at all for me at the moment. I guess I will have to wait until I can get tomtom or something installed to test it properly....
Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 14:03
Possibly. Try Tom Tom. As I said, I've been waiting few minutes for GPS signal to fix the position in TT, but once that was done - both TT and Google Maps were working fine with Kaiser. I'm going to test it more today on the way back home (London N1 to TW14), so I might be able to tell more in regards of GPS accuracy and sensitivity...
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 5 2007, 14:20
Vodafone UK charge £1 for up to 15Mb in any one day (midnight to midnight) then something like £3 per Mb.
You can also pay £7.50 per month to get 120Mb per month for free, if you go over that limit, you'll then pay the £1 per day... as above.
(The good thing is that Vodafone Live! services like MobileTV don't eat into your data allowance, so streaming Sky Sports etc. for ages isn't a worry...)
You might be able to get the Vodafone unlimited tarriff for £25 per month (and apparently they mean unlimited), a bit steep I know but it might work out cheaper in the long run.
Posted by: steveoidm Sep 5 2007, 14:27
just got mine! its very pretty.. had to do some photos now to have a play!
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Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 5 2007, 14:29
After talking to Vodafone, and talking to someone who seems to know the difference between a SIM, 3G and a phone, I have ordered a NEW SIM which will be in the post.
As someone mentioned, it was free of charge. Thanks to whoever told me this.
The "G" indicates its WAP enabled and does use GPRS - When the new SIM arrives, I have to activate for 3G
Interestingly, they could not tell me what their price plans are for this... told me to goto vodafone.co.uk - does anyone have the actual link for 3G costs?
Sonic
Glad you got the Sim free of charge, however EVERY time I have set PDAs up, you either have a 3G SIM or you don't, as far as I am aware the only activation they do is to enable the sim, they normally ship them in a "barred" state to avoid, light fingers stealing and using them.
I would double check they are sending you a 3G sim.
The Prices for Vodafone as far as I remember are something like
PAYG - 50p - £1 per Mb
£7.50 - 120Mb
£25.00 - Unlimited (Fair Usage Policy)
I think these are correct but you might need to check, they are the same as the Datacard tariffs, although you ill need to "bolt on" voice to data or vice versa.
I'll see if I can get the actual costs for you
Damo
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 5 2007, 14:36
I can confirm that my Kaiser/Tytn II fits into the carcomm car cradle and charges, its not a 100% fit (more like 95%), but good enough so as not to do a complete re-install.
Posted by: magic_peanuts Sep 5 2007, 14:38
Roll on some radio updates then. My office is borderline 3G. A good phone (M3100) will pick up a 3G signal (albeit weak) all the time. My Ameo doesn't get 3G at all there and I'm guessing neither will this.
IS there a way of testing the GPS unit itself and just viewing lat/long data etc? I dont know whats going on...it doesnt seem to work at all for me at the moment. I guess I will have to wait until I can get tomtom or something installed to test it properly....
I've never had Google Maps working properly on a Qualcomm chipped device. My M3100 with a Sirf III BT receiver worked fine but on my Ameo it times out. Tomtom works fine although although TTTF is a little slow.
Try some other 3rd party demo software
Posted by: Pepeto Sep 5 2007, 14:41
wowwwwwwwww, please, more photos with the kaiser camera at maximum quality settings!!
Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 5 2007, 14:41
I've never had Google Maps working properly on a Qualcomm chipped device. My M3100 with a Sirf III BT receiver worked fine but on my Ameo it times out. Tomtom works fine although although TTTF is a little slow.
Try some other 3rd party demo software
I thought Paul had it working on his device?
I never managed to get it working on my M3100 in conjunction with a Bluetooth CoPilot either though...
Posted by: teamyrv Sep 5 2007, 14:53
i had seen the vid and did you mention HSDPA & HSUPA during the unboxing? According to the spec it only shows HSDPA....there any one knows for sure whether is there HSUPA in the Kaiser?
Posted by: steveoidm Sep 5 2007, 14:57
you do know my photos were of the kaiser and not with a kaiser? will do some with it now though..
Posted by: Pepeto Sep 5 2007, 15:03
I think that none of them... is it true?
Posted by: steveoidm Sep 5 2007, 15:27
I think the problem is with Google maps rather than the kaiser like you say... Initially it didnt work, then i setup tomtom and let it get a fix and google maps worked perfectly. Google just doesnt wait long enough for a fix. Trying to think of a way of activating gps if you dont have tomtom....
HSPDA is fast!
Posted by: wi11 Sep 5 2007, 15:33
Love my new TyTn II, hate the fact it won't activesync anymore.
Edit: Ignore me, it was fine when not going through the USB hub.
FWIW, I'm not very happy with the camera quality. There seems to be little dynamic range and a lot of contrast blow-out losing detail. I'd use the camera for taking a snap shot of something unimportant I just wanted to record visually, but for holiday snaps etc. where I want quality I can print from, I'll carry my compact fuji digicam I think.
Posted by: juiceppc Sep 5 2007, 15:46
Try some other 3rd party demo software
Doesn't the Ameo have SirfIII?
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 5 2007, 16:38
There are some GPS weirdnesses, i'm playing with tweaking it now.
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Posted by: leoiden Sep 5 2007, 17:07
HOW about usa residents
how many got one already
I envy you european bastards in a positive way !!!
EXCUSE my french!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 5 2007, 17:14
Just had an email to confirm its been shipped (purchased this morning).
Will wait and see - /vodafone should be sending the 3G SIM today, how long that takes remains to be seen.
But not in too much of a rush, then I will propably opt for the largest data bundle they do (business user)
Hope the device lives up to the hype !
I own an Samsung D900 and over the moon with this - its a great phone - and as a backup it will still be put to good use.
Simon
Posted by: J273 Sep 5 2007, 17:27
Just got chance to have a look at mine....Looks very nice.....well pleased.
Just one thing .....when the device is closed the two halfs on the right hand side move ever so slightly apart.....Is this normal or not?
I know it may sound a little petty but when i had my wizard ages ago it was the same,i thought it was normal until i got another and the 2 half's where alot more solid.
Posted by: FlangeArtist Sep 5 2007, 18:00
Mine arrived today! Yay!
Dissapointed though, on the delivery box it had a "Guaranteed before 1pm", and not 9am as I expected!?!?! Did I pay the eXpansys MoDaCo offer for before 9?
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 5 2007, 18:35
Er, what made you think it was for before 9?
P
Posted by: J273 Sep 5 2007, 18:43
Just one thing .....when the device is closed the two halfs on the right hand side move ever so slightly apart.....Is this normal or not?
I know it may sound a little petty but when i had my wizard ages ago it was the same,i thought it was normal until i got another and the 2 half's where alot more solid.
Is anyone elses the same?
Posted by: FlangeArtist Sep 5 2007, 19:16
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Said so on the Royal Mail tracking service by using the link from eXpansys!!!
Posted by: Hightech Sep 5 2007, 19:47
Be happy you got one who care if it is before 9 or after 1pm you still have one today...
Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 20:20
Exactly - same thing I've figured on my way home. Google Maps' timeout is too short for GPS to fix position, so Google thinks GPS is broken/not present. I've started TT, got the fix and now it started working in both TT and GM with no problems at all...
Posted by: Mind_Rx Sep 5 2007, 20:24
Can anyone pls clarify if the TYTN II supports SDHC?
Posted by: forrestk Sep 5 2007, 20:26
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QUESTION - speaking of GPS weirdness and getting tomtom setup...
Now that you have your production release devices - have you (or anyone) discovered what exactly it takes to upgrade the "TomTom Taster Edition"? I'm curious if you have to buy a full separate version of tomtom - ie. the whole software package and install it along with the maps usind the dvd's OR if you can just use the TomTom software that comes with the TyTN II and order/download additional maps via the web.
Posted by: NuShrike Sep 5 2007, 20:29
http://www.htc.com/support/pdf/htctytnII/Kaiser_HTC_English_Manual_web.pdf page 261 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC)
It is weird HTC doesn't label it explicitly as SDHC, but calling it "compatible".
Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 20:29
Here you go.. just a few from my way back home, and the last at home. I am really impressed with that camera!
There is only one annoyance with camera I've noticed - each picture taken is by default rotated 90-degrees clockwise, so I need to manually rotate them after exporting to computer but before publishing. Is that a bug or a feature???
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Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 5 2007, 20:45
My 4GB SDHC works fine.
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Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 5 2007, 20:46
That's a camera bug. Still no geotagging camera function in the final ROM either
Unfortunately I couldn't feed this stuff back to HTC pre launch because I wasn't testing on their behalf, and had no way to get info back to them!
P
Posted by: NuShrike Sep 5 2007, 20:46
Posted by: Pepeto Sep 5 2007, 21:13
There is only one annoyance with camera I've noticed - each picture taken is by default rotated 90-degrees clockwise, so I need to manually rotate them after exporting to computer but before publishing. Is that a bug or a feature???
Thanks for posting some photos..
The last photo seems the best one, and the light conditions are possible the worst...
Did you setup the camera for use finest jpeg compression?, The fact is that pauls review photos seem much better in therms of quality!!... have the lens been changed!
Posted by: evad Sep 5 2007, 21:25
Resolution max, quality super fine. Regarding the last photo - white balance set to 'bulb' light (I don't remember correct term).
Posted by: sc0user_75 Sep 5 2007, 21:41
Has anyone tried syncing there phone to a Mac? I know Paul has.
Question I want to ask is, how good is the sync? Any problems? My N95 syncs quite well, but Anniversaries don't sync across too well. EG if I put in an Anniversary on the phone and then synch everything over to my Mac, and then back from Mac to phone, the Anniversaries then show as Meetings - where the start time is 0:00 hours and end time is 0:00 hours. So the message comes up on screen for all of 1 minute!!! (hope what I just said made sense )
Posted by: Mind_Rx Sep 5 2007, 21:48
http://www.htc.com/support/pdf/htctytnII/Kaiser_HTC_English_Manual_web.pdf page 261 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC)
It is weird HTC doesn't label it explicitly as SDHC, but calling it "compatible".
cheers...i can go ahead and open the memory card package!
Posted by: Jonne70 Sep 5 2007, 21:55
There is only one annoyance with camera I've noticed - each picture taken is by default rotated 90-degrees clockwise, so I need to manually rotate them after exporting to computer but before publishing. Is that a bug or a feature???
Sorry, but I personally think those and other pictures I've seen taken with the final version of Kaiser look rather awful.
They are are very blurry, the colors are totally off, contrast is very bad, and they lack detail. Actually I think the camera is one of my biggest disappointments with Kaiser. Compare for example with pictures on Flickr taken with Apple Iphone. Iphone has a 2 megapixel camera and no options, and still it takes pictures with way better color accuracy, detail and sharpness. 
Posted by: Pepeto Sep 5 2007, 22:09
They are are very blurry, the colors are totally off, contrast is very bad, and they lack detail. Actually I think the camera is one of my biggest disappointments with Kaiser. Compare for example with pictures on Flickr taken with Apple Iphone. Iphone has a 2 megapixel camera and no options, and still it takes pictures with way better color accuracy, detail and sharpness. I agree with you, pauls photos seem to be GREAT, but the photos from the kaiser final version dont feel the same.... will it be the photograper?? ;-) , configuration??
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 5 2007, 22:54
Syncing to my mac works great
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Posted by: desmondiwang Sep 6 2007, 00:41
Hello everyone..
This is a little bit off the topic.. Sorry..
I am currently a T-mobile USA customer so, I would like to know whether T-mobile USA will release HTC Kaiser(T-mobile Vario III?) this year in US? If yes, when?
I think if the release is before 10/15, then I will wait for the T-mobile. However, if not, I am gonna buy a unlocked one. Thanks.
Posted by: xiuhan83 Sep 6 2007, 03:20
still no review from any user that has the phone? how come no one talks about the touch flo technology?
Posted by: codemann Sep 6 2007, 06:20
I'm from Belgium but pre-ordered a UK TyTN II (more and easier firmware upgrades).
Just one question, can someone here from the UK check if the dictionary on your device has the Dutch/Nederlands language?
Thanks a lot!
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 06:21
Don't get me wrong, in general I think cameras in mobile phones are just crap and would never be as good as regular cameras (at least as long, as they have plastic and crap lenses). However, comparing Kaiser's camera quality with Hermes, or literally any other phone I've had - it's really great. And while I will always favor regular cameras over camera-phones, there are situations and circumstances when camera-phone is quite useful, so regarding that kind of need Kaiser's phone is impressive (IMVHO, of course ;).
Posted by: AwJm Sep 6 2007, 06:24
They are way busy playing with new toy
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 08:26
Kaiser has TouchFLO limited to finger scrolling only, no 3D cube - which is quite ok IMHO, as I found 3D cube feature quite useless, frankly (I've been playing a while with TouchFLO a bit on my HTC Wizard, after flashing to WM6).
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 6 2007, 08:34
Mine has just turned up. Good Service all round.
Sadly, not got time to open, so will look this evening
Posted by: m3100tony Sep 6 2007, 08:36
I am intreaged that so many of you appear to be buying these devices. What contracts are you all on?
I figured most people on here would be on a contract, and hence get these devices free when they are up for an upgrade (typically in month 9 of a 12 month contract for £35/month contracts on orange). Whats the deal here - why are you all buying your Kaiser when you could get this free (probably)?
If you are on SIM only deals or on pay as you go, are there any good unlimited data deals out there.
P.s. anyone know when the Kaiser is on orange!!
Thanks
Evad - nice pictures. Much better than the TYTN camera, though it will not replace a real camera!
ARE ALL YOU GUYS ON PAYG OR SIM ONLY DEALS?!?! (sorry for shouting, I really want my Kaiser and orange are still denying all knowledge of this phone
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Posted by: Mikeyb50 Sep 6 2007, 08:53
http://www.htc.com/support/pdf/htctytnII/Kaiser_HTC_English_Manual_web.pdf page 261 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Digital_card#SDHC)
It is weird HTC doesn't label it explicitly as SDHC, but calling it "compatible".
I got my TyTN II yesterday having ordered it the day before, must say it's an awesome bit of kit got my microSDHC card prior to phone & it works fine. Can't fault the phone so far, build quality, weight, look & feel....HTC have the best looking variant of the phone, T-mobile, Orange etc can't improve on the looks i'm afraid but the HTc version if you can
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 08:57
It's a little bit off-topic, but the moment when I've started to actually see advantages of camera-phones was recent Notting Hill Carnival in London. I didn't bring my camera there, so I've ended up taking pictures with my wife's Sony Ericsson S500i - 'better these than nothing', I thought. But later on, while checking these pictures on my computer I was quite impressed, actually. I was expecting real crap, but in fact these pictures were excellent enough to resize them a bit and send off to friends and family back in Poland.
I am on T-Mobile UK contract and my upgrade is due next January - I was thinking to get Vario III of course, but I wasn't patient enough to wait such a long time for upgrade... ;)
Posted by: m3100tony Sep 6 2007, 09:08
Thanks Evad. Do you use one of the Web n Walk packages? If you use the 7.50 is it possible to conect via a PC via bluetooth (I know you are not meant to on this tarrif). Thanks
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 09:35
T-Mobile's fair usage policy excludes that kind of usage, but technically it is possible. I think as long as you don't abuse it, like sucking lots of data each day, they don't mind. Well, at least I use it occasionally, and never had problems. Works the same also for pay as you go £1/day deal.
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 6 2007, 09:43
ARE ALL YOU GUYS ON PAYG OR SIM ONLY DEALS?!?! (sorry for shouting, I really want my Kaiser and orange are still denying all knowledge of this phone
)Currently on a O2 PAYG (Rip-off) but I'm in the process of moving everyone at work over to Vodafone, we have 400 handsets so have bespoked pricing. but as a prsonal user I'd have done this anyway for the £25 per month unlimited data tariff
Posted by: m3100tony Sep 6 2007, 09:51
Thanks. Is there a concensus on who has the best coverage, and who has the best HSPDA (and HUSPDA) coverage out there?
Posted by: Ston Sep 6 2007, 09:55
Hi Evad, how did your GPS test go in London? whats the reception like, did it hold lock constantly?
Has anyone else tried this in a car for navigation? Would be intrested to get some feedback around this. I heard the qualcomm HPS chip isn't that great...
Regards
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 10:15
I've been traveling on my usual route from Old Street Tube station area to Heathrow area, passing by King's Cross, Euston, Marylebone, then A40 to Northolt and then Parkway A312 down to Heathrow. Generally it was quite OK, I must say, GPS locked position quite quickly, and then kept track without significant problems. The only thing I've noticed was very variable GPS signal strenght, it was going between minimum (one bar) to maximum quite often, but did not seem to affect position tracking.
The only thing disappointing, not related to GPS itself tough - it's coverage of free TT map of London. It's basically central London + zones up to 3, maybe 4, roughly. Definitely doesn't cover Heathrow area... :( On my route yesterday map coverage has finished on A40, somewhere around Hanger Lane / Perivale.
Posted by: mickyB Sep 6 2007, 11:10
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You cheater !!!
I got mine this morning
Posted by: Nadavi Sep 6 2007, 12:26
I'll be getting mine tomorrow!
Nadavi.
Posted by: damianbyrne Sep 6 2007, 12:43
Again I'd say Vodafone who claim 99%, stear clear of O2, I can't say for Orange and T-mobile, but we need as close to 100% as a nursing business we need as much coverage of the UK as possible, therefore we're going with Vodafone.
I have a 3G Datacard and O2 doesnt even come a close 2nd
Posted by: chucky.egg Sep 6 2007, 13:07
Just got "mine" (read: works)
Anyone else have a degree of movement in the chrome-like buttons?
The red (hang up) button, and in fact the whole chrome section it is in, moves by about 1-2mm up and down - as through it's pivoting on the green (answer) button.
Posted by: wi11 Sep 6 2007, 13:24
Just checked and mine pivots too a few mm, doesn't really bother me. I wouldn't have noticed if you hadn't pointed it out in fact.
Posted by: luis omar Sep 6 2007, 13:34
all people who has a kaiser, post your first impressions with the device, is fast? is stable?
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 13:57
So far, so good. :) It is noticeably quicker and snappier than Hermes, even after installing whole lot of favorite apps. But I've also noticed some glitches like unexpected hangs for few seconds already - but it does not cover overall great impression.
Camera - very impressive for me, as I said few times already. 3G/HSDPA over Bluetooth/Internet Sharing - I've checked just today in the morning and I was blazed with the speed of ~140-150 KB/s, while with Hermes I was only able to achieve up to 60 KB/s with the same SIM card (T-Mobile + w'n'w) and same location! TouchFLO with finger scrolling, another excellent addition. GPS seems to work fine and stable. Finally I can use Google Maps without external GPS receiver. Finally, the design - looks brilliant, with that shiny black finish around front cover. I must say final retail edition looks a bit better than prototype demo I've had chance to play with earlier.
Shame that Java doesn't work properly, as I pointed out in other topic. Someone at xda-dev suggested to install other version of Java, which I'll try later today.
My very first impressions are really good. As I said, I wasn't that impressed about a week ago, when I was playing with prototype Kaiser at INKINO shop in London (Tottenham Court Road), but now all I can say it's just great. :)
Posted by: sc0user_75 Sep 6 2007, 14:09
Lads, what do you think the possibilities are that the tytn 2 will come down a little in price over the next month or so? I know the N95 dropped by around £50 - £70 in the first month.
Posted by: GLOPRO Sep 6 2007, 14:13
Can anyone confirm that the GPS data can feed 2 programs at the same time? ie a NAvigation program and a data logger?
thanks
Posted by: juiceppc Sep 6 2007, 14:42
What are people's opinion on the dpad and button placement and overall one handed ability. The hermes buttons were too small and close together but the dpad was decent. But it wasn't rubberized and the ultra smooth battery cover often made the device almost slippery to me. The Wizard dpad was excellent but only had 2 poorly designed soft key buttons and no start and OK.
I have to imagine looking at the pics using this one handed should be better then their previous devices. With the rubberized back for grip and the large dpad and good buttons for easy clicking.
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 15:33
Button layout seemed quite awkward for me at the first glance - buttons are very close each other and it's easy to press the wrong button by mistake. But it all just comes down to getting used to... It is, however, quite good to operate with one hand, as you have all button in one place, instead of spreading to top and bottom of the screen, like it was in Hermes.
Posted by: Webreaper Sep 6 2007, 16:18
They should be able to. The GPS is just a device/service, to which apps make requests. It'll work the same way as the 'net connections which are just available for all apps once they're running.
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 6 2007, 17:24
Hi All
Well got the Tytn 2 this morning, and my new Vodafone 3G sim arrived late afternoon (My contract has always been with Vodafone, just wanted to get the new handset and get 3G enabled).
But so far, I have been unable to get through to their team to activate it - and I want to get this right, before starting the phone up!
So far... its still in the box
Posted by: J273 Sep 6 2007, 17:28
Ive been using mine without a sim since i got it....Ive only just put mine in and setup the data connections.
Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 6 2007, 17:40
It's NOT as snappy as I imagined it would be...it still feels a little sluggish like the hermes did at times...is it something I am doing? The only home screen plugin I have running is the HTC Home thing...
It's weird....definitely not as fast as I imagined.
Posted by: cristids Sep 6 2007, 19:12
Hi everybody,
Congrats to those who are lucky enough to get their hands on this new toy. And a question to them : is the GSM/3G performance good or bad? I own an M600i and is a crap in terms of GSM performance compared to my wife's Prada. Because of that the phone function wich is the most important is useless some times.
B.R.
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 19:18
What do you mean by GSM/3G performance? Data transfers? Or just voice/sms usage??
Posted by: cristids Sep 6 2007, 19:35
Quality of a phone call rendered by the power of the GSM signal. My M600i losses signal and the phone calls are a nightmare.
Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 6 2007, 20:04
I must say, I've found call quality to be fantastic so far. Data speeds also seem a lot better than my old M3100 (Hermes).
Does anyone fancy knocking up a quick "how to" for getting your data connection working over bluetooth/USB with a windows Vista machine for internet access etc...it would be much appreciated.
(Before anyone asks: Yes, I am feeling quite lazy hence I have not bothered looking myself yet with regards to the dial up connection stuff
).
Posted by: evad Sep 6 2007, 20:07
I agree. However, it's quite hard to find a place where signal is really weak in London, so hard to tell how it behaves in such conditions.
I don't know about Vista, but if there are some Linux users onboard modaco, this article might be helpful: http://klamstwo.org/evad/archives/40
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 6 2007, 20:28
All
Ok well im stumpted here!! On WM5 you had the Terminal Services client. I cannot find anything on WM6 apart from talking about using Remote Desktop Mobile.
But I cannot find it!! Is it me.... or am I being really stupid and need to go back to the manual.
Still working my way through all of this yet !
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 6 2007, 20:55
Just found a download for RMD for WM6 - so I will download this and try it!
Worse case, do a hard reset!! Too much on here to take in over a few hours, plus got work now!
Managed to sync 4.5 to Tytn2 over Active Sync and wireless. No problems there!
Speedwise, seems to be ok - although again not had a good chance to play around with it!
Only touched 5 - 10% of the product so far! MAnual is VERY large!!! So a long read me thinks !
Posted by: stanchion Sep 6 2007, 21:18
Howdy. Mike here from Hamilton Ontario Canada. I have my TyTN II now (yay!) and I'm charging it up for the first time. I was in meetings in Toronto all day or else I'd have skipped out to play with this puppy sooner.... I bet I'm one of only a handful of people in Canada to have chased one of these down so early... I find being an early adopter isnt such a bad thing... technology is something that actually pays you if you are an IT professional. :-)
The phone detected the Rogers network no problem and immediately came up with 3G indication. I live in an area that supports the higher HSDPA speeds.. so I'll be placing a phone call to Rogers right now to get on a data plan.
First impression is 100% drool factor. :-)
Posted by: Manni01 Sep 6 2007, 21:53
Hi and congrats to the happy owners of the new toy!
A few questions which have not been answered yet (AFAIK):
- How does the Tytn II play videos with TCPMP? Say a DivX in 640x480 @ 1500k/s like the Matrix trailer in high quality? I guess most people coming from a VGA pda would like to know if they have to forget about watching films or if it's an option on the Tytn II.
- What's the battery life like?
- More feedback on GSM reception/call quality (after all, it's primarily a phone!)
- Benchmark of the 4GB HDSC (r/w speed)
- Does the voice dialing work well, and does it work through a BT handset?
Thanks for all the info!
Posted by: PK_ Sep 6 2007, 22:15
The phone detected the Rogers network no problem and immediately came up with 3G indication. I live in an area that supports the higher HSDPA speeds.. so I'll be placing a phone call to Rogers right now to get on a data plan.
First impression is 100% drool factor. :-)
stanchion, where did you order your TyTN II?
Posted by: stanchion Sep 6 2007, 22:32
I purchased mine through Clove.co.uk.... delivery time was <48 hours through DHL... i did not get a bill for duty or customs fees, either. :-) (in fact the DHL waybill says $0.00 ...) a nice surprise for me actually...
Posted by: jjimenezjj Sep 7 2007, 01:25
The eagle has landed... finally! Here in Seattle, Washington, all is well
Got mine this morning around 10am!
John J
Posted by: Hightech Sep 7 2007, 01:49
Got mine this morning around 10am!
John J
Hehehe good one the eagle has landed. Come guy we need pic for us the poor guy who do not have it yet. give us pic specially of the different screens and the nice wallpaper....
Posted by: mikeeey Sep 7 2007, 03:50
Got mine this morning around 10am!
John J
lucky you. im waiting here in Everett for it to come out on AT&T.
Posted by: UnicornKaz Sep 7 2007, 04:30
do you want to confirmed that ???
ever since WM5.0 ... NOBODY could activesync wireless ( BT yes, but not WIFI ) !!! MS crap !
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 7 2007, 05:33
Hi UnicornKaz
Err... yes - Can confirm it. I have also been able to sync with exchange for WM5 too. (using XDA Exec)
Never had a problem. and that is using wireless connection. If its not working, then how am I getting emails syncing every 15 mins
Can anyone clarify about the "Remote Desktop" being in the Pro version of WM6 - is this meant to be present, or am I meant to be doing a download?
PAUL !!!! Anyone !!
Posted by: kathryncheng Sep 7 2007, 05:43
hello paul,
Got mine yesterday... very happy... couldnt get rid of my hw6915 yet at the moment as iam waiting for any suggestion from you about the geotaging.... anything? TYTN II is fantastic though so far..
dennis
Posted by: chucky.egg Sep 7 2007, 13:13
Anyone else notice that the weight mentioned before it came out was 160g, but they actaully weight 192g
That's not a small increase
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 7 2007, 17:31
I said it was 190g all along
I don't recall HTC ever saying it was 160g...
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Posted by: TEC Sep 7 2007, 19:31
how many got one already...
Just picked mine up locally--Chicago!
http://welectronics.com/
They may not have their website updated yet but give them a call. These guys had about 90 of 'em when I left.
TEC
Posted by: evad Sep 7 2007, 19:42
Hard to say after 2 days of hard-core playing with the phone, but I suspect it would be something like Hermes, which is around ~2 days while on 3G and ~3 days with 2G-only.
No problems so far.
As above. Voice dialling through headset works great.
Other questions skipped, as I don't know the answers. :)
Posted by: PK_ Sep 7 2007, 19:56
For the tomtom taster edition, what do you have to do to get the map of other cities?
How much would that cost?
Is is possible to get a map for the entire N America?
Posted by: crusti Sep 7 2007, 20:24
just 3 Questions
1) can it do usb2 ?, as my m3100 is so slow at transfer data i end up using a memory card reader for big files
2) can i use my m3100 home charger with the tynt2 safely?, id imagine i should be able to
3) if the GPS is as bad as some seem to make out can i still use an external bluetooth GPs reciever?
ps .. http://www.handtec.co.uk/product.php/765/htc-tytn-2/b11e191c528f05578f00947eae919452 its the cheapest i could find and im very tempted
but still weighing up if the modaco special offer is worth the little extra or to wait and see what orange can do for me (only 2 months till my contracts up)
pps .. http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/14359.htm , for a few quid more you get a home charger
Posted by: Manni01 Sep 7 2007, 20:25
Thanks very much for the reply!
Hope someone will be able to test video performance...
EDIT: Matt seems to be pretty happy with video perf: http://www.tracyandmatt.co.uk/blogs/index.php/2007/09/07/htc_tytn_ii_review
Anyone able to test micro SD perf and confirm if voice dial works from a BT headset (ie no need to get the TytnII out to make a phone call)?
Posted by: evad Sep 7 2007, 20:45
I don't know - I never use USB to transfer files. Only Bluetooth or memory card reader.
Haven't tried, but should work. It's just USB, which mean the voltage/current should always be the same, regardless if it's charger or regular USB cable.
Should work, but... why? I think GPS is really OK. I've tested iGO satnav software today on my way to work in the morning - no problems at all.
but still weighing up if the modaco special offer is worth the little extra or to wait and see what orange can do for me (only 2 months till my contracts up)
Wow, they went down with price already! I've bought mine from handtec for £474 incl. postage. I was also tempted with MoDaCo+expansys offer, but frankly - it was £497 incl. delivery, and I don't really need all these extras inluded in the offer... Sorry Paul. ;)
Posted by: GordonTGopher Sep 7 2007, 20:47
How much would that cost?
Is is possible to get a map for the entire N America?
http://www.europe.htc.com/en/workplay/tomtom_buymaps.html Have a look at the US HTC site, there shoul be something similar!
Gordon
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 7 2007, 23:53
Does anyone know of any reliable USA sites that have the TyTn II in stock, and for $800 USD or less? I'd really appreciate it.
Posted by: burrzoo Sep 8 2007, 01:39
hey Evad,
Do you prefer the iGO software over TomTom? Whichever you feel is better could you please list a few reasons why?
Thanks so much for allowing us to live vicariously through you and your new TyTn 2!
Posted by: zachto_man Sep 8 2007, 02:08
Gordon
I looked and I could find nothing similar at :
http://www.america.htc.com/work_play/default.html
And entering Tom Tom into the search bar gives no result.
Posted by: TEC Sep 8 2007, 07:10
Got mine today (Chicago) from these guys
http://www.welectronics.com
Call em...they may not have it up on their site.
TEC
Posted by: GordonTGopher Sep 8 2007, 08:08
http://www.america.htc.com/work_play/default.html
And entering Tom Tom into the search bar gives no result.
is it possible that the US version of the device won't have the taster version? I guess going direct to TomTom.com is next best plan 
Hope you find them
Gordon
Posted by: James Muir Sep 8 2007, 13:06
Got mine this morning around 10am!
John J
I imagine you are on AT&T. What settings are you using to connect? Or did you just slip in your previous SIM?
Posted by: Special2k3 Sep 8 2007, 13:38
My TyTn II is here since yesterday, but i had to wait for playing with it til now. It is charching at the moment
Special2k3
Posted by: evad Sep 8 2007, 14:24
I prefer iGO's user interface, speed and quality/details of maps over TT's, however TT seems to have better route planning algorithms, so it's quite hard to say which is definitely better.. I rarely use satnav, anyway - I think the best navigation ever made is brain+paper map. It 'only' requires someone to hold it and direct while you're driving. :)
Posted by: burrzoo Sep 8 2007, 15:29
haha! Thanks! I used to have rubber-banded bundles and bundles of maps in my car. I think that the GPS might be just flat out handy!
Posted by: Phelicks Sep 8 2007, 17:05
Do Tyth II have problems with external sounder ?
The ringtone goes silently ?
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 8 2007, 17:09
http://www.welectronics.com
Call em...they may not have it up on their site.
TEC
Did you have to call them to get yours? Or did you pick it up locally. Also, do they offer any type or registered warrenty?
Posted by: cristids Sep 8 2007, 19:57
Come on guys,
I'm waiting and waiting and hitting f5 for details and nothing? Share with us . Mine is set to come on 11 and it's a loooong wait.
Posted by: pestekkorna Sep 8 2007, 22:31
Hi guys, first of all, I would like to thank you all for all the informations you are sharing with us!
I have some questions about the tytn II:
1. Is there some rilevant differences between the US version and the UK version? I think I'm going to order mine on the net from a USA site instead of waiting for the PDA to be in stock at higher prices...
2. what about surfing the net (via 3G or wifi)? Is the embedded browser fast?
3. curiosity: will it be able to play on-line radios on internet sites? I mean, there are some sites who offer you the possibility to listen to the on-line radio via windows media player. will the tytn II be able to open this kind of streaming?
Thank you for your patience and time and excuse me for my english!
Peste
Posted by: evad Sep 8 2007, 22:35
It does not depend on device itself, but the software. I don't know about WMP, but I was able to listen online Proton Radio using GSPlayer.
Posted by: pestekkorna Sep 9 2007, 08:31
Thank you for your anwser! you are right, it does't depend on device and having wmp, tytn II should be able to play windows media streamings on line!
Have a nice sunday!
Peste
Posted by: kathryncheng Sep 9 2007, 12:16
to all,
has anyone notice that when you change position or sudden movement of tytn II the device seems to have a noticeable flicker or lines especially from ; -- the start taskbar is... can everyone look closely so i could find out if its normal or maybe i have a faulty unit.
thanks to all
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 9 2007, 14:45
Hi all
Having spent some time using the device, I can confirm that its pretty damn good! I come from an XDA EXEC which was good but bulky and weighty. Even as a phone, it was a little too big.
I ended up using the device as a Terminal Services laptop and occasionly used Tom Tom with a seperate bluetooth GPS. One thing that did annoy me was the battery life, which would need a charge within a day, possibly 2 at the most.
I gave up, went to my Samsung D900 which was ultra slim, light a a great 3MP camera. Cameras are not important to me, but for quick snaps or photos and video, its proved very, very impressive indeed.
I am with Vodafone, and never had 3G enabled on my SIM. When I purchased Tytn II, it was sim-free. At the same time I contacted Vodafone, spoke to a sensible customer service department who sent out a 3G SIM card.
Best part was... its free! So the new TyTN II arrived, and the 3G Sim. Once activated I started to play.
First things that struck me:
1) Accessories in the box. Nice carry case for the phone that attaches to the belt. Great for me
2) Nice presentation to the box - good and clear instruction manual
3) Simple read me to get started as quick as poss
4) Charge time was short :-)
5) Simple Wizard setup. Boot time short.
Upon starting the device and trying to get used to the buttons, I started ACtive Sync. Realising I needed 4.5 I done a clean uninstall of my 4.0 sync and resinstalled 4.5. Sync up with USB very nicely, and quick too.
I then setup the Wifi and sync over wireless. Again, great, simple and worked like a charm.
Next I went back to the big HTC Manual (and it is big!) and started reading slowly all the features and functions. I concentrated on certain areas of the phone (GPS, Sync, Bluetooth and Wi-fi) before exploring all the other WM6 features. I also tried out the "weather" feature which is a nice touch.
Next day, after leaving the phone on, I wanted to check what % the battery was at. Considering the small usage I gave it, I was surprised and impressed it had dropped just 7% !! Comparing that to my XDA Exec it had lost 20% overnight! May not sound much, but for me the battery life is essential, when I am on the move and no access to a charger.
Next, was the camera and video. Not reading the instructions I went head into the application and started to take shots. Compared to my D900 its pretty good. Again, its not going to replace a decent Canon camera, but for video on the go and photos to take and share or email, its very, very impressive!
Installed Tom Tom and downloaded one map. Again, without any configuration changes, the GPS connected and I was able to route an address. Yet again, all simple, no changes needed and no modications using the built in GPS.
Battery life was now down to 78% after playing with videos, camera, music and TomTom, with the odd bluetooth connectivity. And almost forgot, the use of the slideout keyboard and MSN with some web browsing too.
Sync today, with USB and again, no reported problems. In fact, out of the box, I have YET to have a single crash or instance of a failure. The only time it was reset was due to Sprite Backup doing this during and after the backup process. Not too impressed with this, but a small price to pay for the backup of essential OS Data.
Overall I have to stress that this for me, is an absolute essential purchase. Yes its not as light as my D900, but its NOT heavier than my XDA Exec (which I will now be selling), but its enough to be seen as a phone, which offers alot more functionaility than the eye can see on first contact.
And that is one impressive device. I am sure as the years go by, the HTC range will get smaller and slimmer, but for now its a great device. For a business person, its ideal.
Some concerns I have noted are:
1) No Terminal Services Client. I found a download for Mobile Remote Desktop, but unsure if I should have this by default or need a seperate install
2) I noticed my Signal Bar had the letter "G" on it. When I click on this, it told me it was connected to GPRS, 3G for 4 hours!!!!!!!!! I have absolutely no idea what it was doing, let alone why it was connected. That bothers me alot!! Last thing I need is a huge bill! I also discovered if Active Sync is set to "sync when items arrive", the connection remains on. Any ideas how this can be turned off ?
I think thats about it, considering I have been using it for a few days.
Anyhow, just wanted to share my views on this device. I know its expensive, but when you consider what the device holds on its own, and all the features, the value is worth it.
Thanks, Simon
Posted by: mikeeey Sep 9 2007, 18:41
so has anyone here with the TyTN II got CoolCamera to work? there hasnt been a new version in a while, hopefully soon there will be.
Posted by: AwJm Sep 9 2007, 19:33
IS the carry case one that you have to loop your belt through, or is it one that can be cliped on..
Posted by: Kagenryu Sep 9 2007, 19:34
Anyhow, just wanted to share my views on this device. I know its expensive, but when you consider what the device holds on its own, and all the features, the value is worth it.
Thanks, Simon
Nice short review of the phone... I can't wait to get mine and put it through it's paces!
--
Kage
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 9 2007, 19:35
What exactly is CoolCamera?
Posted by: mikeeey Sep 10 2007, 01:29
the best camera program out there for windows mobile. it takes MUCH better pictures and videos than the default camera software that comes with your phone. you can take ANY resolution of video. the framerate is way better. i suggest you try the trial. just EVERYTHING about it is better.
http://www.ateksoft.com/download.html
Posted by: MiniOrganMorgan Sep 10 2007, 02:47
Currently I'm in Dallas, Texas, and ordered a TyTN II from http://www.onthegosolutions.com/ on Thursday and it arrived Friday. Folks at On-the-Go seemed pretty friendly, but then my unit was ordered with another for a colleague making it a fairly high order value. Think the final cost was about $1700 for the pair, which is expensive for the US, but about on the money compared with back home.
Interestingly, the unit delivered is a British spec device - GB in the serial and with a GB charger. That actually suits me down to the ground as I'm from Scotland working here on a long term contract.
So far, impressed with the unit - a worthy upgrade from my old iPaq hw6515.
Posted by: Sonicr360 Sep 10 2007, 05:56
The Carry case is one that you can clip onto your belt. and its pretty stiff as well !
I used the GPS this morning to work, which is a 20 mins drive (and yes I know ; -- I am going) :-)
however, with the GPS on and using this to work, I found after the jourey the battery was down to 87%.
So... using the modaco offer (or if not) I will use the car charger for this feature. Something I just wanted to share. Should also point out the phone was on all night last night and the last charge was 8:30pm yesterday. so again, I think its still good.
And remember, I came from an XDA EXEC (which at the time was the cutting edge PPC device to have). Goes to show how light and slim devices are becoming - the XDA looks sadly dated, but I still cannot complain!
HTH
Simon
Posted by: anthonyblack Sep 10 2007, 08:13
As a HTC Universal (Orange M5000) user i would be very interested to hear from anyone who's converted from using the Universal to the TyTn II. I am very tempted to go for a TyTn II but am concerned about loosing the VGA display as i use my device a lot for internet browsing (Opera) and remotely connecting to PCs.
Let me know your experience.
Posted by: magic_peanuts Sep 10 2007, 18:29
Let me know your experience.
Haven't forked out for my Tytn II yet (I just bought a new Macbook Pro (Paul that's your fault) and my wife WILL kill me if I spend any more on 'gadgets' this month) but I used to use my Ameo for remote desktop purposes and I could never go back to a non VGA screen if I still had a regular need for a remote desktop connection.
You might want to wait for the HTC Omni (Google it) which is little more than vapourware at the moment but hopefully should materialise early part of 2008.
Posted by: Shivadxb Sep 10 2007, 20:06
I got one WOO HOOOOOOOO
and it rocks....not had much time with it yet but I already love it, runs sweet as no matter how many apps open.
Will post more in a day or so once I've had a good play around with it. I got mine here in Dubai so its sim free and seems to have everything just the way HTC intended, 1 issue though.....Tom Tom dont have a map for the Middle East so I can only use that when I'm back in the UK.
Anyone know any free gps mapping software with maps for the middle east?
Chris
Posted by: Hightech Sep 10 2007, 20:45
Well still no answer from EE I left them a message they never call back. It is ok I live close to them but will never spend my money with them due to lack of customer service.. On another note mobileplanet are the funniest company. I order mine Kaiser and it said yesterday morning 8 days to deliver and this morning it stated shipped I call them to check the order to see if it really ship and it did. The funny part it one day they tell something and the other some else. By no means am I complaining but it is just funny... Tomorrow I should have it..
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Sep 10 2007, 21:43
Google Earth and Windows Live Search should have maps of Dubai I guess?
P
Posted by: NuShrike Sep 10 2007, 21:55
Anyone know any free gps mapping software with maps for the middle east?
For instance, I can find free maps of Japan unlike TomTom.
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 10 2007, 22:05
http://www.ateksoft.com/download.html
I will definatly have to take a look. How much is the full version?
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 11 2007, 04:17
So does Mobile Planet not offer any sort of extended warrenty like 95% of the other sites on the net do? I don't really ever feel comfortable buying a phone w/o at least a 2 year no questions asked warrenty. Although not even one of my past 5 phones has ever needed repair I just like to have that piece of mind. (Also, I have never kept any of my phones for more than 6 months, so that may be part of the reason they haven't ever broken)(I'm really hoping that this phone is spectacular enough to put my obsession to rest for at least a year)
Posted by: Hightech Sep 11 2007, 12:53
Guy is there a program or does the Kaiser comes with a program that will set off an alarm of the mins that one is using. Like for example if I just want to use 30 min's a day is there a timer that will let me know that I have reach my limits???
Thanks
Posted by: pestekkorna Sep 11 2007, 15:22
Actually I'm thinking about buying one on an US site for a simple reason : 180 USD less expensive in the States (shipping fees via FedEx included) than on european sites...
I don't know if something's going to change for the warranty (I hope not) but a seller talked about a 2 yeas world wide warranty.
Can someone confirm this?
Thank you,
Peste
Posted by: Hightech Sep 11 2007, 18:16
Oh yea Oh yea got it got it in my little hands.. The box is freaking nice wow.. No wonder HTC is great there product packaging is great...
Posted by: Hightech Sep 11 2007, 18:28
Ok first impression is WOW WOW First time I even get an unlock phone and it's packaging looks 
Eventhing looks so nice and best packaging I ever since.... Remember first time I even get a unlock phone...
Posted by: UnicornKaz Sep 11 2007, 23:50
Err... yes - Can confirm it. I have also been able to sync with exchange for WM5 too. (using XDA Exec)
Never had a problem. and that is using wireless connection. If its not working, then how am I getting emails syncing every 15 mins
Can anyone clarify about the "Remote Desktop" being in the Pro version of WM6 - is this meant to be present, or am I meant to be doing a download?
PAUL !!!! Anyone !!
WI-FI activesync ( which is impossible since WM5 ) ... is totally different then wireless syncing to an exchange server !!
the 1st, you are wifi to the desktop activesync ...
""Microsoft made huge mistake by removing the feature of ActiveSync over Wi-Fi synchronization altogether! Previously, in older versions of Windows Mobile, it was possible to synchronize with your PC over Wi-Fi (and thus also over whole Internet) but out of security reasons Microsoft removed this feature (instead of just disabling this feature by default).""
http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2005/05/22/420884.aspx
http://msmobiles.com/news.php/5334.html
http://forums.microsoft.com/MSDN/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=111444&SiteID=1
~~~~~
and the latter ... you are using wifi to an exchange account ( which is the same as web browsing and/signing on to a forum or hotmail ) ...
Posted by: Shivadxb Sep 12 2007, 05:22
Well I spoke to HTC about the lack of working maps for the Middle East and boy what a surprise. Rather than the usual vendor "we dont care" attitude, i was told that HTC are sorry about this and that in a week or so they will have an alternative to tom tom and that they will gladly give me some maps and software for free!
three cheers for HTC, i fully expected them to say "tough luck"
Posted by: NuShrike Sep 12 2007, 07:29
Hey, showed up here at ~2pm today courtesy of prompt, accurate, flexible billing E-Gadget Depot with car charger and iPDA ultra clear screen protector (for dopod 810, cht9100, trinity, p3600). Finally set up most of it and transferred my pictures and ringtones from the SE t637. 72 chords really improves my midis.
This is what a call a tight experience. Everything just works, and you can feel the polish and quality.
Man is the screen small compared to the Palm TX. It's a bit heavier, but... the options and stability! Haven't had to reset once between all the bluetoothing, wifi, and usb activesync (unlike the Palm). Installing Tom Tom fixes the Google Maps not seeing GPS problem. Probably Google doesn't initialize something properly. Spb Phone Suite is up so I can filter calls.
Anybody know how to convert sim contacts into "Outlook" contacts? I'll probably find out eventually through the manual and online. Haven't figured out how to convert the weather app to show in F, but C is fine too and I might as well go full metric anyways considering I drive using Km on US streets. Your UK three prong plugs are HUGE compared to the US's.
Got Gmail Java running fine.. will try Opera next. Man, how do you guys deal with such tiny screen estate and all these widgets and softbuttons taking up the estate? HTC Home clock takes up way too much room, wouldn't mind just the tabs interface. Gets moderately warm during activesync and charging.
Skype 2.2 Gold over wifi works fine, although haven't figured out how to get it to use the BT headset for the audio.
Definitely not a transreflective screen, but about the same as my TX so I can deal with it, even in bright sun, I hope.
So the rambling stops, and more tweaking continues. Paul's tweakpak next.
Posted by: jim.mason Sep 12 2007, 12:40
Having spent some time using the device, I can confirm that its pretty damn good! I come from an XDA EXEC which was good but bulky and weighty. Even as a phone, it was a little too big.
I ended up using the device as a Terminal Services laptop and occasionly used Tom Tom with a seperate bluetooth GPS. One thing that did annoy me was the battery life, which would need a charge within a day, possibly 2 at the most.
I gave up, went to my Samsung D900 which was ultra slim, light a a great 3MP camera. Cameras are not important to me, but for quick snaps or photos and video, its proved very, very impressive indeed.
I am with Vodafone, and never had 3G enabled on my SIM. When I purchased Tytn II, it was sim-free. At the same time I contacted Vodafone, spoke to a sensible customer service department who sent out a 3G SIM card.
Best part was... its free! So the new TyTN II arrived, and the 3G Sim. Once activated I started to play.
First things that struck me:
1) Accessories in the box. Nice carry case for the phone that attaches to the belt. Great for me
2) Nice presentation to the box - good and clear instruction manual
3) Simple read me to get started as quick as poss
4) Charge time was short :-)
5) Simple Wizard setup. Boot time short.
Upon starting the device and trying to get used to the buttons, I started ACtive Sync. Realising I needed 4.5 I done a clean uninstall of my 4.0 sync and resinstalled 4.5. Sync up with USB very nicely, and quick too.
I then setup the Wifi and sync over wireless. Again, great, simple and worked like a charm.
Next I went back to the big HTC Manual (and it is big!) and started reading slowly all the features and functions. I concentrated on certain areas of the phone (GPS, Sync, Bluetooth and Wi-fi) before exploring all the other WM6 features. I also tried out the "weather" feature which is a nice touch.
Next day, after leaving the phone on, I wanted to check what % the battery was at. Considering the small usage I gave it, I was surprised and impressed it had dropped just 7% !! Comparing that to my XDA Exec it had lost 20% overnight! May not sound much, but for me the battery life is essential, when I am on the move and no access to a charger.
Next, was the camera and video. Not reading the instructions I went head into the application and started to take shots. Compared to my D900 its pretty good. Again, its not going to replace a decent Canon camera, but for video on the go and photos to take and share or email, its very, very impressive!
Installed Tom Tom and downloaded one map. Again, without any configuration changes, the GPS connected and I was able to route an address. Yet again, all simple, no changes needed and no modications using the built in GPS.
Battery life was now down to 78% after playing with videos, camera, music and TomTom, with the odd bluetooth connectivity. And almost forgot, the use of the slideout keyboard and MSN with some web browsing too.
Sync today, with USB and again, no reported problems. In fact, out of the box, I have YET to have a single crash or instance of a failure. The only time it was reset was due to Sprite Backup doing this during and after the backup process. Not too impressed with this, but a small price to pay for the backup of essential OS Data.
Overall I have to stress that this for me, is an absolute essential purchase. Yes its not as light as my D900, but its NOT heavier than my XDA Exec (which I will now be selling), but its enough to be seen as a phone, which offers alot more functionaility than the eye can see on first contact.
And that is one impressive device. I am sure as the years go by, the HTC range will get smaller and slimmer, but for now its a great device. For a business person, its ideal.
Some concerns I have noted are:
1) No Terminal Services Client. I found a download for Mobile Remote Desktop, but unsure if I should have this by default or need a seperate install
2) I noticed my Signal Bar had the letter "G" on it. When I click on this, it told me it was connected to GPRS, 3G for 4 hours!!!!!!!!! I have absolutely no idea what it was doing, let alone why it was connected. That bothers me alot!! Last thing I need is a huge bill! I also discovered if Active Sync is set to "sync when items arrive", the connection remains on. Any ideas how this can be turned off ?
I think thats about it, considering I have been using it for a few days.
Anyhow, just wanted to share my views on this device. I know its expensive, but when you consider what the device holds on its own, and all the features, the value is worth it.
Thanks, Simon
Hi Simon,
Glad you're enjoying your new toy - still yet to order mine.
Connected to GPRS/G for 4 hours is not as problem - you will only pay for what you download unless you have the unlimited dataplan that V do. This might have been opened by either IE or also the weather feature on the homescreen will use this to download the lastest data and neither of these will automatically close the connection - there may be an auto disconnect option after a period of activity under settings that you could try.
Posted by: wonderstoat Sep 12 2007, 13:04
Hi
Got mine a couple of days ago. Great device. Really feels better quality than SPV M3100. Very fast. GPS is excellent. Keyboard swivel excellent. Slightly worried about the screen, but as I live in Ireland, there's not that much bright sunlight anyway?
Question: I had 3 (I travel a lot) replacement batteries for my SPV M3100 and none of them will work as HTC have changed the pin position for ths TyTn II. I've ordered a new battery from expansys, BUT ... has anyone seem a TyTn 2 desk cradle/charger with slot for extra battery? (Obviously I can't use my existing M3100 cradle to charge spares as the pins are wrong.
Paul - any info on when this may be coming?
Posted by: ipgenie Sep 12 2007, 15:33
I ordered mine from Clove and added the cradle with battery charger to my order.
The cradle and extra battery are still on back order so it may be that they are not yet available, but they are/were listed on thier site.
Got mine a couple of days ago. Great device. Really feels better quality than SPV M3100. Very fast. GPS is excellent. Keyboard swivel excellent. Slightly worried about the screen, but as I live in Ireland, there's not that much bright sunlight anyway?
Question: I had 3 (I travel a lot) replacement batteries for my SPV M3100 and none of them will work as HTC have changed the pin position for ths TyTn II. I've ordered a new battery from expansys, BUT ... has anyone seem a TyTn 2 desk cradle/charger with slot for extra battery? (Obviously I can't use my existing M3100 cradle to charge spares as the pins are wrong.
Paul - any info on when this may be coming?
Posted by: wonderstoat Sep 12 2007, 16:57
The cradle and extra battery are still on back order so it may be that they are not yet available, but they are/were listed on thier site.
Are you sure this includes a slot for an extra battery? The only cradle I can see on Clove is this one:
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?Product=B1306B43-EAFD-477F-8C6F-89D7523D34B5&Category=0A33F854-4108-4A5E-805C-63811E7D6256
.... which doesn't have a battery slot. Did you get another one that I'm too dumb to see?
Posted by: ipgenie Sep 12 2007, 18:58
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?Product=B1306B43-EAFD-477F-8C6F-89D7523D34B5&Category=0A33F854-4108-4A5E-805C-63811E7D6256
.... which doesn't have a battery slot. Did you get another one that I'm too dumb to see?
On closer inspection it seems that it must have been placed in the TyTN II accessories by mistake. The one on my order form is listed as being for the original TyTN which if I understand correctly uses a different battery. I will be contacting Clove to make a change to my order before they ship that cradle. I guess I'll have to settle for a standard cradle for now.
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 12 2007, 19:35
Anyone who has bought the TyTn II and could recommend a good site I would really appreciate it. I'm having quite a hard time trying to find it is stock for $800 USD or less.
Posted by: xklipschx Sep 12 2007, 20:46
I absolutely love this phone ... my only gripe is that the ActiveSync keeps launching on the phone ... it seems that whenever I check the task manager (every few minutes) this program has started (the phone is just sitting on my desk) ... is there anyway to disable the activesyn from automatically turning on? ... I am thinking may when I lose GPRS or Edge or 3G service and re-gain it that the activesyn kicks in?
Anyone else experiencing or noticing this?
Posted by: NuShrike Sep 12 2007, 22:21
o Haven't figured out how to convert the weather app to show in F, but C
o Skype 2.2 Gold over wifi works fine, although haven't figured out how to get it to use the BT headset for the audio.
o http://diysoft.nm.ru/readme_eng.htm
o deep inside options (wish it used the more accurate weather.com)
o http://www.trianglepowers.com/PPC/ViewApp.aspx?ID=52
Posted by: zachto_man Sep 13 2007, 03:05
Just for the record. I finally got mine this evening. Charging now. Unfortunately the retailer did not send the micro disc I ordered so cannot attempt any large software installs until that comes. TomTom etc.
Cheers. and whoohooo!!
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 13 2007, 16:48
I was finally able to order my TyTn II today from Popular Electronics for $800 USD ($900 with 2 day shipping and 2 yr extended warranty), and I should have it by saturday or monday. Can't wait until I get the call.
Posted by: Le Chiffres Sep 13 2007, 17:18
I just received mine this Noon.
First Impressions WOW WOW
NO ReGRETS SO FAR
FANTASTIC DEVICE..... I don't think i am going to sleep this night
Hey I don't have much time to type, my fingers are itching
Posted by: Everton1878 Sep 13 2007, 20:25
It's weird....definitely not as fast as I imagined.
I find it a bit sluggish too, nowhere near as fast as my old h2210
Glad I downloaded that program to block the GPRS connections, don't like the way it kicks in without asking you - could end up being v expensive
Now just need M$ to sort out the Mobile Device Center as I think the old active sync was better (more reliable)
Often need to close programs and unplug the cable before starting again otherwise it claims to be syncing for ages
Why can't we sync over WiFi, only BT?
Got a DuraSec screen protector but maybe a bit thick, causes the stylus to drag a bit
Also can you stop the green light from flashing?!
Have to put it on it's face on the bedside table so I can sleep
Posted by: magic_peanuts Sep 13 2007, 22:30
Argghhhhhhh, got mine today, green stuck pixel just off centre! Running a video pixel clearer overnight, anyone know HTC's policy on pixels?
Posted by: appy11 Sep 13 2007, 23:14
is it possible that the US version of the device won't have the taster version? I guess going direct to TomTom.com is next best plan Hope you find them
Gordon
As a TomTom reseller, you can buy full version UK & IE, Western Europe, Australia, or USA & Canada from me. All full version 6.75 (latest) and street level detail with Navigator 6 software (included as free with the maps). I may be able to cut you a deal as a fellow Kaiser fanatic!
Before you ask, I don't cover anything else! If you need something weird like Hong Kong or South Africa, you'll have to pay the full price from TomTom.
Chris
By the way, when I finally get hold of the Kaiser on the 18th, I'll test all the TomTom maps in it and review the performance here if you think it's helpful.
Posted by: appy11 Sep 13 2007, 23:24
Vodaphone have informed me that they intend to make their brand of Kaiser (v1615) available on 17th September 2007. This Monday!
At long last. Only 3 days more to wait!
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 14 2007, 01:19
Is GPS software for a TyTn II or similar product seriously around $150 USD?! I can't believe how incredibly expensive that is. I could nearly buy a whole new GPS for that amount. Please someone tell me this isn't the case.
Posted by: ScrewlooseAZ Sep 14 2007, 05:05
So has anyone used the kaiser with Skype Video Calling or a video conferencing program yet?
If so give us a review!
Posted by: NuShrike Sep 14 2007, 07:55
Posted by: Everton1878 Sep 14 2007, 08:20
Before you ask, I don't cover anything else! If you need something weird like Hong Kong or South Africa, you'll have to pay the full price from TomTom.
Chris
By the way, when I finally get hold of the Kaiser on the 18th, I'll test all the TomTom maps in it and review the performance here if you think it's helpful.
What can you do UK&IE for?
Posted by: evad Sep 14 2007, 08:58
I would go to a vendor for replacement straight away.
Posted by: pestekkorna Sep 14 2007, 11:05
Do someone know if there are main differences between the US and the European versions of the device?
Just curiosity (I'd like to purchaise mine on a US site but I'm in France...).
Thank you!
Peste
Posted by: Hightech Sep 14 2007, 12:51
Just curiosity (I'd like to purchaise mine on a US site but I'm in France...).
Thank you!
Peste
If I were you go with the EU vision I have it and it is great.. The US one will need to buy from a carrier like AT&T and it will not have the same feature so I have been told. Must of the time carriers take out feature and place there branding on the phone which mean it is crap.. Just to give you example I have the HTC Star Tek thats what was call when it was fist release now it is call Clamshell Smartphone ( I just went to the HTC and they are calling it that) the same phone but at&t one which is the 3125 and it was full of software crap.. AT&T for what I hear may take out one of the cam it comes with two cam the EU one. I say it is worth the money to get the EU one..
Posted by: appy11 Sep 14 2007, 14:09
You can email/message me for prices if you like, I'm not sure if it would break any rules here to start pushing them!
All the best,
Chris
Posted by: pestekkorna Sep 14 2007, 14:36
Thank you for your anwser!
Actually I think it is an unbranded unlocked phone and the price, even including shipping via fedex, remains interesting.
630€ instead of 750 in europe (and including memory card, car charger and screen protection).
I don't know...
Peste
Posted by: magic_peanuts Sep 14 2007, 16:37
They refused to switch it. Guess I'm stuck with it
Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 14 2007, 17:03
Call HTC, its a long shot but they may be able to help you directly...I don't know what their policy is on stuck pixels.
Posted by: burrzoo Sep 16 2007, 22:11
Just curiosity (I'd like to purchaise mine on a US site but I'm in France...).
Thank you!
Peste
As far as I know there is no "US" version for sale here yet. The US websites selling the unlocked TyTN II are selling the UK model. I got mine from Elite-Electronix (in Florida) for USD $799.95. It was scheduled for delivery on 9/13 but I got it a day early on the 12th and it's wonderful! They shipped a UK to US A/C plug adapter with it (free of course). I know others have had some bad customer service but my experience with them has been great (so far).
Posted by: zachto_man Sep 16 2007, 23:54
Anyone else experiencing or noticing this?
I see this happening also. Every time I look at the task list active sync is running and I keep turning it off. I don't know if it is a problem but it is annoying.
Posted by: Everton1878 Sep 17 2007, 08:18
I find that I often have to close it before I try to sync with the Windows Mobile Device Centre
Posted by: zachto_man Sep 17 2007, 20:05
Does any one out there have a way to turn activesync off until it is wanted? I have looked throught the menus and nothing sems to touch on that.
Posted by: sbf Sep 18 2007, 00:44
Surely a stuck pixel is a valid reason for a refund/exchange!!!
I thought that products <7 days from purchase had to be exchanged by the vendor in the event that it was faulty.
Kick up a fuss about it - you don't want a stuck pixel on a brand new device.
Posted by: xklipschx Sep 18 2007, 16:08
I've looked everywhere as well and I can't seem to find anything to turn it off
Posted by: Dooks Sep 18 2007, 22:45
Has anyone received a TyTn II with no TomTom? I looked through both CDs and couldn't find the software. Neither of the CDs were labelled with TomTom either. Bought mine from handtec.co.uk
EDIT: uploaded photo of the Applications CD. No TomTom listed! Also, I noted that the box seal was broken when I received it, I didn't check until later because it was all nicely courier wrapped and I had to rush off... should I send it back?
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Posted by: Syphon Filter Sep 19 2007, 08:01
Is that the only CD that came with yours? I'm not at home but I am pretty sure mine came with two CD's which look almost identical except one has a little tomtom logo on it.
Also how long has it been since you receieved it? The vendor may say you've left it too long to report the issue?? Give them a call and see what they say, the fact that the seal was broken is a little worrying.
Posted by: Ves Sep 19 2007, 10:12
I received two aswell. One with all the applications (TomTom Taster, GPRS data monitor software, sprite back-up) And the WM 6 disc
Posted by: Dooks Sep 19 2007, 12:14
i did receive the wm6 cd as well, neither had tomtom labelled on it. calling them soon!
Posted by: Barbican Sep 19 2007, 22:25
I received my TyTnII yesterday from Handtec having oredered it on Monday and the seal on the box was also slit and although there were two CDs in the box, neither included TomTom, in particular the additional applications CD with Sprite, etc did not do so. I notice Handtec has just reduced the price by £25 since I bought it - now £440 with free delivery. I will also ring Handtec tomorrow to ask what happened to the TomTom software - as they say on the website for the phone currently:
"GPS
- Internal GPS antenna
- Standalone GPS and A-GPS mode
- TomTom Navigator 6 Taster Edition"
If it is hidden somewhere, please let me know.
That apart, so far I have been very happy with the TyTnII, having moved from a T-Mobile MDA Pro. I do miss the screen resolution of the MDA Pro but applications such as e-mail have worked very well and much faster than before. TomTom apart I have no real gripes - the screen resolution can hopefully be cured in future with an upgrade.
Posted by: drokkon Sep 19 2007, 23:06
Crazy off-topic OCD question:
The TyTN II is the Kaiser, no? And soon to be the Tilt?
I'm just trying to wrap my head around these forums - if I were to look for news about this device, or post a question about this device, would I do that under:
"Newsroom -> Pocket PC (Professional) News"
or
"Pocket PC/Windows Mobile Professional (Touchscreen) -> Pocket PC Device Specific -> HTC Kaiser - Kaiser.MoDaCo.com"
or...?
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 19 2007, 23:32
I just got my TyTn II today, and it is absolutely fantastic. No missing pixels no nothing. I do need help in changing the weather to Fahrenheit since it is in celcius now. I can read celcius just fine, but I would prefer it to be in fahrenheit. I really appreciate any help you can give me.
Posted by: NuShrike Sep 20 2007, 01:21
xorangefirex:
page 36 of your manual.
EDIT: uploaded photo of the Applications CD. No TomTom listed! Also, I noted that the box seal was broken when I received it, I didn't check until later because it was all nicely courier wrapped and I had to rush off... should I send it back?
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Posted by: tassos avramidis Sep 20 2007, 03:45
EDIT: uploaded photo of the Applications CD. No TomTom listed! Also, I noted that the box seal was broken when I received it, I didn't check until later because it was all nicely courier wrapped and I had to rush off... should I send it back?
i got my TYTN II on friday from superiorgadgets.com and i didnt get the tomtom cd on mine either only sprite backup and gprs monitor i tried using my tomtom from my tytn but it wouldnt let me ,it wont activate the maps on my tytn II i guess i have to buy them again which really sucks .
Posted by: ipgenie Sep 20 2007, 04:44
Not sure if this will do what you want, but you can set your active sync to manual this way:
Open Active Sync,
Choose Menu and Schedule,
Set Peak Times and Off-peak times to manual.
Alternatively you can adjust your peak times so active sync is only on at the times that you want it on.
Perhaps this is not what you're looking for, but it is a nice way to keep your phone from alerting you to new emails before you get up in the morning if you charge it on the night stand like I do.
Posted by: nelz Sep 20 2007, 05:44
I just got my TyTN II from Superior Gadgets as well and TomTom is nowhere to be seen either. I was looking everywhere for it too and the manual says nothing about it. Could this be a demographics issue? and depends on where our suppliers got their stock???
Posted by: evad Sep 20 2007, 06:21
I've bought mine from handtec in the very first release (for £470 - now it's going so cheap!), and I've got TomTom. :-o
Posted by: appy11 Sep 20 2007, 09:43
You can get the TomTom full version UK & IRE + Navigator 6 (inc with map) for just £49. The "taster" version is a bit rubbish.
In fact the full Western Europe street level map is on sale for £59.99 currently. Don't think that will last though, Christmas is coming up!
Chris
Posted by: TreColl Sep 20 2007, 15:01
Damn.... Missed mine this morning.... Got to get it tommorrow from the sorting office!!
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 20 2007, 15:50
I just got the phone yesterday, and so far I'm really loving it. My only problem is that I am having alot of trouble moving my word documents that I create on it back to my computer. It seems to put the documents in a really strange format I have never seen before (.docx) and when I try to look at it through active sync it doesnt even seem to be a word file at all. When I double click it all it does is bring up the properties. I really need this feature to work for me, so any help is more than appreciated.
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 20 2007, 16:03
I've now gotten the file on to my computer, but when I try to open it with MSWord it tells me that it is encoded and tells me to select the encoding that will make the document readable. I've went through alot of them, but it still comes out in code (aka completely worthless jibberish) I really need some help on this one. Thanks
I finally figured it out after a little over an hour of tinkering. Sadly the solution was to put it into rich text format...which, once I figured it out, took all of 3 seconds. I guess thats what you do for the first few days with a new device though.
Posted by: ipgenie Sep 20 2007, 22:48
.docx is Microsofts new Office 2007 word format. Junk in my opinion and a real pain because it's not backwards compatible with older versions of office. If you had office 2007 or the reader on your computer you could open it right up.
To change the default format on your TyTN Mobile Office, open Word Mobile, Choose Menu, tools, options and change the default template to "Word 97-2003 Document (.doc)". All new documents will open with your older version of Microsoft Office.
I finally figured it out after a little over an hour of tinkering. Sadly the solution was to put it into rich text format...which, once I figured it out, took all of 3 seconds. I guess thats what you do for the first few days with a new device though.
Posted by: drokkon Sep 21 2007, 22:04
Crappypants.
Can we rename this "The official 'I'll NEVER get my TyTN II' thread?"
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/21/atandt-tilt-delayed-a-few-weeks/
Posted by: mikeeey Sep 22 2007, 19:39
Can we rename this "The official 'I'll NEVER get my TyTN II' thread?"
http://www.engadget.com/2007/09/21/atandt-tilt-delayed-a-few-weeks/
il quote what i said in the Paul Reviews the HTC TyTN thread:
first of all, this isnt anything new? it already has been delayed.
we've been hearing dates of it being released, and it hasnt happened, so what makes it being delayed just as true? anything we hear is gonna change, whether it be the Tilt being released or delayed, it's all the same, its just about waiting.
basicly im trying to say, it doesnt matter what they tell us, it will come out in 3 days, or be delayed for 3 weeks, either one isnt even true, so we just need to wait.
Posted by: zachto_man Sep 22 2007, 22:24
Open Active Sync,
Choose Menu and Schedule,
Set Peak Times and Off-peak times to manual.
Alternatively you can adjust your peak times so active sync is only on at the times that you want it on.
Perhaps this is not what you're looking for, but it is a nice way to keep your phone from alerting you to new emails before you get up in the morning if you charge it on the night stand like I do.
Hi ipgenie
Many thanks.
I missed this reply. I have been syncing using bluetooth of late - brilliant - and it doesn't seem to want to let me select schedule.
When I do a back up tonight I'll check it out (can't backup using bluetooth because it wont sync fast enough after trhe reboot - sigh).
Cheers.
Posted by: drokkon Sep 27 2007, 01:20
If any US Tilt folks are hanging around, I'm going to continue the "official I'll NEVER get my TyTN II thread" with a new speculative date. This is from the same site who brought us the first REAL picture of the AT&T Tilt, so hopefully it's a little more concrete than others: http://mobilitytoday.com/news/att_release_dates_change.html
Posted by: xorangefirex Sep 27 2007, 21:40
What data rate on HSDPA (approximately) does the TyTn II allow?
Posted by: morfmedia Sep 28 2007, 18:10
Whats the best way of getting all my contacts from my Vario original onto the Vario 3, I plugged it in using activesync but it said I don't have outlook installed. I'm sure the original vario didn't need this to backup my contacts?!?!
There any freeware / easy way to transfer it all?
PS The Vario III rocks, really like it already
Posted by: evad Sep 28 2007, 20:09
Try to use Sprite Backup, if you have it on software CD enclosed with Vario III. I've discovered today that Sprite actually does contacts/tasks/calendar backup really well.
Posted by: morfmedia Sep 28 2007, 20:22
Good man, I bought this a year or so ago so will try and use the full version I bought.
Thanks for the prompt reply
Posted by: mcwarre Sep 28 2007, 22:39
To those with delivery problems.......
I am a new t-mobile customer and got it delivered to a work address rather than home. Easy when you know how
Posted by: KipMast Sep 29 2007, 02:03
Anyone else experiencing or noticing this?
Not sure if you fihured this out yet or not-The problem is known and is purposely set that way (thanks to Microsoft). It was really driving me nuts! I finally found the solution on the web and did the following and it works!
ActiveSync keeps restarting on PPC. >>> FIXED <<< I had a Cingular 8125 with NBD TouchFLO roms, but I ended up selling it so I could purchase a HTC Touch.
I posted this question in the ELF thread but nobody had an answer.
I thought I would post it here since the touch is a Pocket PC with WM6 installed and the Wizard thread is very active.
So, the problem I'm having is:
When I start up the HTC Touch, ActiveSync is running. I stop it, but sooner or later it will show up in the Tasks running again. I'll leave the HTC Touch alone for awhile, come back and ActiveSync is running again.
I did the ActiveSync Fake server Trick(Fake IP, Set schedules to Manual, etc..), but that didn't help.
I only had the HTC Touch for a couple of days. I haven't installed any programs. I even did a Hard Reset, but ActiveSync still runs.
Here is the Fix:
In the windows/activesync directory there is a file called “CtrlLog” file, in the file I noticed that at certain times it would say “KeepAwake” so I knew there had to be something trying to keep ActiveSync running.
I download an app called “Task Manager by FdcSoft”, cool little app for Free, it showed me all the processes running in the background. The one that caught my eye is a process called “repllog.exe”, because it had an ActiveSync icon next to it.
So just messing around with “Task Manager” I went to “Notifications” and noticed there were three “repllog.exe” in the notifications list towards the bottom. After disabling and enabling “repllog.exe” one by one, I believe the one that is causing ActiveSync to keep restarting itself is the “repllog.exe” that has an Argument named AppRunAfterTimeChange(must scroll to the right to see it). So I disabled that particular “repllog.exe” and did a Soft Reset.
I no longer see ActiveSync in the Task Manager list unless I connect to the PC using a USB cable.
NOTE: This procedure might not work for everyone. I have a HTC Touch with WM6.
Get Task Manager here: http://ppcfree.com/en/index.php?soft=1612
Posted by: AwJm Sep 29 2007, 06:44
can somebody please confirm is this case has a clip or is it a belt loop..
Posted by: pestekkorna Sep 29 2007, 07:19
belt loop (if this means the stuff to put it on the belt)
Gennaro
Posted by: SierraDelta Sep 29 2007, 11:30
Gennaro
No - it's a clip. If it was a loop you would have to thread the belt through it...
Posted by: AwJm Sep 29 2007, 18:58
can i see pic if possible please ?? one clip or double ?
Posted by: zachto_man Sep 29 2007, 21:41
Single clip, very stiff.
Posted by: zachto_man Sep 29 2007, 22:11
NOTE: This procedure might not work for everyone. I have a HTC Touch with WM6.
Get Task Manager here: http://ppcfree.com/en/index.php?soft=1612
It works on Kaiser. Many thanks for posting. This has been an annoyance to me since I got the Kaiser.
cheers
Posted by: morfmedia Sep 30 2007, 09:30
In the end I used PPCPIM backup in the end to backup / restore from my old Vario I to the Vario III
Worked flawlessly
Posted by: djeikh Oct 4 2007, 13:59
Hello Paul,
Does opening the "external GPS program" alone will screw up the internal GPS? is a hard reset really the only way to fix this? I'm having problem with google maps nor VisualGPSce working correctly; I did run the Programs > GPS Program once before, thinking that was the right one to use (immediately after opening the box) - would it help to uninstall the external GPS program instead? why hard reset? I just don't want to loose all my settings again.
thanks
joachim
Hardware -> GPS hardware port 'none', baud rate 4800
Access -> Tick check box.
Somehow i've managed to totally lose GPS before by messing with that stuff, fixed only by a hard reset!
P
Posted by: zachto_man Oct 5 2007, 03:32
Does opening the "external GPS program" alone will screw up the internal GPS? is a hard reset really the only way to fix this? I'm having problem with google maps nor VisualGPSce working correctly; I did run the Programs > GPS Program once before, thinking that was the right one to use (immediately after opening the box) - would it help to uninstall the external GPS program instead? why hard reset? I just don't want to loose all my settings again.
thanks
joachim
Hi Joachim.
No, merely opening the external GPS settings should not screw you up....
If you have already modified the settings in the external GPSsettings panel then the consensus seems to be a hard reset is the only way to recover GPS function.
If you are simply having trouble using GPS follow this formula.
Download and install GpsViewer.exe from here:
http://pocketmap.com/accessories/GpsViewer.exe
Open GpsViewer.
select Com Port 'COM4:'
select Baudrate '4800' - should be preselected
select Open GPS
select any of the start buttons.
wait 15-20 seconds and select the GPS status tab at the bottom.
It will help if you are outdoors and not on the bottom floor of a 12 story building.
While the GpsViewer is still running and after you have a good fix - some blue boxes in the status tab - open GoogleMaps and try to use the track location function.
Google maps will often time out before the GPS in the Kaiser can get a good fix.
Good luck.
karlo
Posted by: djeikh Oct 8 2007, 03:30
Thank you, Karlo,
I really wanted to avoid a hard reset and managed it finally by, actually, changing settings in "external GPS": there are 3 tabs inside the External GPS Control panel; the first one is "programs", the 2nd "Hardware", the 3rd is "Access"; I changed the 2nd tab from a specified GPS hardware port to (None); I changed the 3rd to "Manage GPS automatically" and changed the 1st one from "(None)" for a GPS program port to COM4. That did it.
Now, with GPSViewer.exe, VisualGPSce.exe and GoogleMaps I have no problem anylonger as long as I set their settings to that COM4 port. All is well. I didn't touch the "external GPS" control panel, afraid of screwing up the settings and having to go via a hard reset but in the end it was those settings that helped me fix it.
Thanks everybody
joachim
No, merely opening the external GPS settings should not screw you up....
If you have already modified the settings in the external GPSsettings panel then the consensus seems to be a hard reset is the only way to recover GPS function.
If you are simply having trouble using GPS follow this formula.
Download and install GpsViewer.exe from here:
http://pocketmap.com/accessories/GpsViewer.exe
Open GpsViewer.
select Com Port 'COM4:'
select Baudrate '4800' - should be preselected
select Open GPS
select any of the start buttons.
wait 15-20 seconds and select the GPS status tab at the bottom.
It will help if you are outdoors and not on the bottom floor of a 12 story building.
While the GpsViewer is still running and after you have a good fix - some blue boxes in the status tab - open GoogleMaps and try to use the track location function.
Google maps will often time out before the GPS in the Kaiser can get a good fix.
Good luck.
karlo
Posted by: mortenandersen Oct 15 2007, 16:18
Someone who knows how to make the screen stay light up while making a call (in closed mode). In my experience the light goes automatically off after just some seconds, and I would like the screen to be light under the whole talk, so that I can use it without having to press the button so often to lighten it up again.
Posted by: Paul (MVP) Oct 15 2007, 16:25
It's a bit random, sometimes things break sometimes they don't, there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason!
P
Posted by: mortenandersen Oct 16 2007, 16:21
I have now tried to search all the built in possibilities of the phone, but have not found a way to make the light on all the time while making a call. Are there some 3rd party program that enables this mode of functioning?
Posted by: jimbouk Oct 16 2007, 16:47
Even if possible, you would be a) using a lot of battery and I wouldnt want the screen on next to my face all the time...
Just flick the D pad down to turn the light on when needed.
Posted by: mortenandersen Oct 16 2007, 19:24
I wouldnt want the screen on next to my face all the time...Just flick the D pad down to turn the light on when needed.
Sometimes I need to see the screen all the time for example to select a number (1-9) during a call or for other purposes. So it would have been a clear advantage not to need to push the D pad so many times.
Is there a 3rd party program to set the light constant on?
Posted by: jimbouk Oct 16 2007, 19:42
Have you tried increasing the time the backlight stays on anyway?
Posted by: mortenandersen Oct 17 2007, 19:41
Yes, I tried to uncheck the backlight time box, also. But that part of the menu does not seem to have any impact on the light constant or long time on while making a call. I need to see for instance to see the numbers on the screen when I call my answering machine, which requires some tapping of some numbers to navigate in the menu.
Posted by: nevawlkalone Oct 18 2007, 09:07
woo got my Tytn2 in the form af the Vario 3..love it...just gota get me number ported from o2 and the GS figured out and then ill be away lol
M
Posted by: NuShrike Oct 18 2007, 09:25
There was some content on the Wiki, but it seems gone now.
Posted by: mortenandersen Oct 20 2007, 05:04
There was some content on the Wiki, but it seems gone now.
Thanks so much for the link. I managed to solve the problem, but I needed some suppport from the technician in the shop to change the registry file.
But I now really now am satisfied with having the screen light on while making a call.
Posted by: Simston Oct 26 2007, 16:30
hi folks,
Tearing my hair out trying to get a htc homescreen for orange branded tytn II. The cool looking one. Any ideas. May also require a basic where/how to install it as new to this.
THanks in anticipation
Simon
Posted by: jimbouk Oct 26 2007, 16:43
Tearing my hair out trying to get a htc homescreen for orange branded tytn II. The cool looking one. Any ideas. May also require a basic where/how to install it as new to this.
THanks in anticipation
Simon
In the usual place...
* coughs XDA
Posted by: Techy Dec 9 2007, 22:34
I got my TyTN II on an Orange contract yesterday, I know .. late for the party. But this is also my first post here. I love it, I got an unlimited data plan (made sur eof that) and after getting it home, I am still in awe at it. My main grenade in the war on iPhone, currently setting up a slingbox and what not for this bad boy. And there is something so compforting in pressing 1 button for weather forcast, I wont use, I dont need it, but its nice to know I can TyTN II > iPhone!
Loaded so far:
Palringo
Yahoo Go 2.0
HTC Home Plugin (because of the Orange branding)
Skype
Vspainter LE
If you know any other good little bits, let me know
glad to have joined this forum!
Techy