PDAZealot
Jul 24 2004, 17:36
Okay, we have all been reading that the hard reset when battery was full fixed it, or the GSM-fix takes care of it. Well, maybe it does for some, but it didn't for me. However, I found one process that seems to work:
1. Upgrade to 2003 on full battery.
2. Do Hard Reset.
3. Power up to 100% on battery.
4. Apply GSM Fix to system.
5. Power up to 100% on battery.
5. Do Hard Reset.
6. Make sure Accept Incoming Beams under the Settings>Beam category is turned off.
When I did all these steps above, especially the Beam one, my battery life zoomed from 7hrs to over 35hrs(it may be longer, that's how long so far). I dont' think it was just turning off the beam, as I had done that before, and it still was crap.
I think it's all of these, as well as making sure to turn off the small G over your signal bar when you are done with GPRS usage(Do a doubletap of the hangup key about 1 sec apart, and it will disconnect the small G symbol w/in about 10seconds).
I was on the verge of going back, but now I think it's doable for usage. Hope it helps everyone out there.
thanks, for the writeup, will give it a try...
just followed the instructions and will do a regular usage test and update this post later on...
i had really batter life for the past couple days and it ended up because of the Beam/Irda being turned on from when i was sedning stuff over from my PDA...doh!! i totally forgot to disable it...
now we;ll see how long it'll last with the beam off...
NOTE: to anyone having a bettery life problem MAKE SURE the Beam/Irda is turned OFF!!!
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...I think it's all of these, as well as making sure to turn off the small G over your signal bar when you are done with GPRS usage(Do a doubletap of the hangup key about 1 sec apart, and it will disconnect the small G symbol w/in about 10seconds)...
awesome trick!!! i was really beginning to get ticked off for GPRS not getting turned off when i was done :evil:
the double tap works like a charm!!!!
PDAZealot
Jul 25 2004, 14:13
Yep, it's confirmed, the steps listed above do keep your battery life up to where it should be(days not hours), but I have discovered what might be the real problem with this update:
GPRS power requirements appear to be 10 times higher than using the GPRS radio stack under the 2002 OS!
I tried it out where I used no GPRS for a day, and the battery barely went down, with quite a bit of phone and Windows Media Player usage. Then,, I tried something different another day:
I downloaded some POP email(about 50 all text emails), and surfed a few pages on the web for about 10min....the battery dropped by 15%. Ouch!
This is why you really have to make sure you disconnect your GPRS connection when done as well, as it will bleed your battery dead, especially if you have it set to download email automatically, as the GPRS icon will stay on over the signal bar if you don't disconnect it, then reconnect again whenever you have set it to reconnect(30min, 1hr later, etc).
It seems a shame that there are so many requirements to keep this battery alive, GSM-Fix, Hard Reset when 100% battery, Turn off Beam, and be vigilent about turning of the GPRS connection(shouldn't it do it by itself? Even when you set it to disconnect after 10min under settings, it doesn't do it). If you don't do all these, your battery will die in a day, and no matter what you do, the GPRS usage is extremely battery intensive. Ugh, I think we may need a fix for this issue, as we can't have GPRS usage killing the phone in just a hour of usage a day.
nytehawk2002
Jul 27 2004, 02:56
I hate to burst this bubble but that procedure didn't work for my phone. I can barely make 5 calls a day without charging. Never had this with WM2002. Unless I can figure out another way to fix this I'm going to have to revert back.
i seem to be having a similar problem

the procedure didnt seem to work very well...which sucks...
i am in the process of testing some other procedures and will post results if they come out positive...i think i'm onto something, so we'll see...
Rusty_nl
Jul 29 2004, 07:03
The gsm stack update seems to have fixed my battery life problem. So thanks alot for the tip. I am a happy camper now.
nytehawk2002
Aug 1 2004, 04:02
Ok.. I've got two MPX200s here both upgraded to the WM2003 Rom. Both of them are suffering from horrible battery life. I've noticed that one does fair a bit better than the other, and I'm not really sure why. I've tried all the different tips and tricks to extend battery life, and none seem to be working. I'm wondering if replacing the battery will have an effect on this?
nytehawk2002
Aug 3 2004, 03:58
I've made a discovery. It seems not MPX200s have the same battery. The manufacturer spec calls for a battery with 860mah. The batteries that came with my phones were 600mah and 700mah respectively. I also checked with a friend of mine who has the same phone. AT&T recalled his phone because they claimed there was a "problem" with the batteries. Turns out they were sending out batches of phones with cheap non-OEM batteries. (This seems to be a local problem because no one else had heard of this.)
Anyhow. I've ordered two replacement batteries of 850mah from this website
http://www.power101.com They aren't OEMs but they have the same mah ratings as OEMs So I'm going to give that a try.
I've also found that on E-Bay they are selling a desktop charger that accomodates both the phone and a spare battery. This may be perfect for you roadwarriors out there who suck up batteries like they're going out of style.
Scoutmaster
Aug 3 2004, 07:23
where can i get that gsm fix?
because my battery drops in a couple of hours
and how do you turn of gprs?
the G rightabove by the signal?
awarner
Aug 3 2004, 08:22
Welcome to the site
If you are refering to the G above the signal bar on the LCD that's
ok as it's just showing that you have GPRS enabled. If on the Main screen you have the G in the corner of the screen with the signal bars you are then using GPRS where as the G in the top center of the screen again just shows you have it enabled rather than just using it.
Scoutmaster
Aug 3 2004, 08:47
QUOTE
Welcome to the site
If you are refering to the G above the signal bar on the LCD that's
ok as it's just showing that you have GPRS enabled. If on the Main screen you have the G in the corner of the screen with the signal bars you are then using GPRS where as the G in the top center of the screen again just shows you have it enabled rather than just using it.
ok thnq
i traded my nokia 6600 for a motorola mpx200
Hey all,
I just got my MPX200 48hrs ago and thus far im ill impressed with battery life, im just wondering how do I turn off beam acceptance, and where do you get this GSM fix from?
Thanks in advance. Loving these forums, this phone but would sure love to see if I can get anymore battery life by getting the GSM update etc rather then hardresetting..
AvWijk
Aug 12 2004, 18:33
PDAzealot If you're still there, do you think the trick will work for me? My battery life always was excellent until I removed my battery and re-inserted it. I have this problem since WM 2003, with Smartphone 2002 I didn't had any battery-life probs.
http://www.modaco.com/viewtopic.php?t=111992
kLeGx0r
Aug 12 2004, 19:16
Can anyone post how to apply GSM Fix to system?
AvWijk
Aug 12 2004, 23:14
1. Back-up al nessesary data from your phone (also sync with outlook!)
2. Turn off phone
3. Fully charge it to 100%
4. Start the Motorola Mobile upgrade wizard
5. Press left key and HOLD, connect to your PC
6. Follow the on-screen instructions
7. Open the GSM-fix IMG file
8. Aplly a hard reset when the flash has finished.
Good luck!
kLeGx0r
Aug 13 2004, 04:05
so i need this img file first.. where can i get it?Posted from my SmartPhone!
elDiego
Aug 17 2004, 11:21
where I can get the fix please??
awarner
Aug 19 2004, 21:47
All updates and related 2003 rom hacks have been removed, from
the host site msmobiles, I presume this was due to legal reasons.
carlmendes
Aug 22 2004, 09:35
the steps you have taken sound about right as i had the same problem but i think that just applying the GSM fix is all it takes as thats all i have done and it fixed things 26hours and still 88 %
Wolferine
Sep 4 2004, 09:28
does anybody known why i dont have g symbol on external lcd until i first connect to gprs after power on the phone? and then the g symbol remainf for ever (until power off)..is that correct? when i use the doubleclick trick then g symbol on internal lcd above sygnal bar dissapear....
awarner
Sep 4 2004, 13:03
It's a bug with 2002 OS as long as you have the G in the middle
top of the main screen your phone is GPRS enabled.
Wolferine
Sep 4 2004, 13:12
i have wm2003
awarner
Sep 4 2004, 13:24
Interesting, never really noticed it with 2003, it will be the same thing though.
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It's a bug with 2002 OS as long as you have the G in the middle
top of the main screen your phone is GPRS enabled.
Thats where the GSM fix is for!
I once had problems with my battery but not anymore! I just completely reflashed it. Very important, always charge the battery 100% and not for less. This solved my problems.
awarner
Sep 5 2004, 12:05
That's not the main reason for the fix as it was released for those with network and GPRS connection problems, not that the G was or was not being displayed in the same manner as the 2002 ROM.
The above problem is just a minor bug and does not affect
the reception side of the phone.
tball25
Sep 24 2004, 11:52
OK... I know this dead horse has been beaten; however, here is what seems to have worked for me regarding the battery drain experienced with WM2003 on the MPX200.
Like everyone, I tried the Charge to 100%, Hard Resets, GSM Fix, No Beam, No Channels, Short Display Timeouts (1 minute), Low GPRS Idle Timeout(5 minutes), and still had the battery drain problem (7+ hours). I keep an SD Card in my device always and yet there were not many posts about how SD may affect this issue. Here is what I tried:
1.) Removed SD Card from phone.
2.) Charge battery by USB to 100% with phone off til 4 solid bars/vibrate.
3.) Flashed phone with the WM2003 with HelloMoto Flower (English).
4.) Immediately after (without powering on or master/hard reset), flashed phone again with the GSM Fix.
5.) Performed Master Reset a.k.a Hard Reset
(Hold Down Blue Action Button and then Power On)
6.) Powered Up Into WM2003
7.) Disabled Beam (Infrared) by Unchecking Option in Settings/Beam
8.) Disabled Channels by Unchecking Option in Settings/Phone/Channels
9.) Set Timeouts to 1 minutes for both Backlight and Display in Settings/Power Management
10.) Set GPRS Idle disconnect to 5 minutes in Settings/Data Connections then Press Menu button and Choose Options.
11.) I make sure double-tap the "End" button when I'm finished with a GPRS (Web/WAP/ATT mMode) session, like another person suggested, and it ends your connection right away rather than waiting on the 5-minute idle timeout. You see the small "G" above the signal meter disappear showing you that your session has terminated.
After performing the above steps, I charged phone back to full then began to monitor at 5:30PM. I made a couple of 5-10 minute calls, read stored news with a News Reader, checked Calendar, and primarily left phone in standby. I checked the device periodically and by about 10PM, I was still at 93%. I did not charge it overnight and checked it again at 6:30AM and it was still at about 89% nearly 13 hours later so I am certainly seeing an improvement as I was getting only about 7 hours or so out of it before. And this is coming from someone who tried everything I saw posted here and was having no luck at all and becoming discouraged and planning to move back to 2002.
I figured I'd post my method and results in the hope it helps others. I'll apologize in advance if this has been posted before (many of the steps have been); however, I haven't seen many posts about whether to try update with or without SD card and that may or may not have anything to do with my results.
Wolferine
Sep 27 2004, 20:59
QUOTE
OK... I know this dead horse has been beaten; however, here is what seems to have worked for me regarding the battery drain experienced with WM2003 on the MPX200.
Like everyone, I tried the Charge to 100%, Hard Resets, GSM Fix, No Beam, No Channels, Short Display Timeouts (1 minute), Low GPRS Idle Timeout(5 minutes), and still had the battery drain problem (7+ hours). I keep an SD Card in my device always and yet there were not many posts about how SD may affect this issue. Here is what I tried:
1.) Removed SD Card from phone.
2.) Charge battery by USB to 100% with phone off til 4 solid bars/vibrate.
3.) Flashed phone with the WM2003 with HelloMoto Flower (English).
4.) Immediately after (without powering on or master/
Hard Reset), flashed phone again with the GSM Fix.
5.) Performed Master Reset a.k.a
Hard Reset (Hold Down Blue Action Button and then Power On)
6.) Powered Up Into WM2003
7.) Disabled Beam (Infrared) by Unchecking Option in Settings/Beam
8.) Disabled Channels by Unchecking Option in Settings/Phone/Channels
9.) Set Timeouts to 1 minutes for both Backlight and Display in Settings/Power Management
10.) Set GPRS Idle disconnect to 5 minutes in Settings/Data Connections then Press Menu button and Choose Options.
11.) I make sure double-tap the "End" button when I'm finished with a GPRS (Web/WAP/ATT mMode) session, like another person suggested, and it ends your connection right away rather than waiting on the 5-minute idle timeout. You see the small "G" above the signal meter disappear showing you that your session has terminated.
After performing the above steps, I charged phone back to full then began to monitor at 5:30PM. I made a couple of 5-10 minute calls, read stored news with a News Reader, checked Calendar, and primarily left phone in standby. I checked the device periodically and by about 10PM, I was still at 93%. I did not charge it overnight and checked it again at 6:30AM and it was still at about 89% nearly 13 hours later so I am certainly seeing an improvement as I was getting only about 7 hours or so out of it before. And this is coming from someone who tried everything I saw posted here and was having no luck at all and becoming discouraged and planning to move back to 2002.
I figured I'd post my method and results in the hope it helps others. I'll apologize in advance if this has been posted before (many of the steps have been); however, I haven't seen many posts about whether to try update with or without SD card and that may or may not have anything to do with my results.
whed di you disconnect the phone from usb cabel? did you do hardreset with connected phone?please answer...thx
awarner
Sep 27 2004, 21:47
Fully charge the phone making sure it's 100%
then unplug the phone and do the hard reset.
That's all there is to battery life improvement no need to flash with gsm fix etc.
Hi
Im trying to charge my phone to 100% but when its in the charger it say 100% and i then unplug it and then it goes directly down to 96-98% what should i do?
Thanks
awarner
Oct 4 2004, 21:33
power off before unplugging

you only need the phone unplugged when powering back on.
I've never seen my battery drop like that after unplugging it though :? you could try leaving it at 100% for a while first before unplugging it.
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power off before unplugging

you only need the phone unplugged when powering back on.
I've never seen my battery drop like that after unplugging it though :? you could try leaving it at 100% for a while first before unplugging it.
how long does your battery last ?
awarner
Oct 5 2004, 17:23
A good 3+ days ddepends on signal strength. I work in a poor to
nonexistant signal area and then the battery length reduces but that's because the phone is constantly hunting for it's signal lock.
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A good 3+ days ddepends on signal strength. I work in a poor to
nonexistant signal area and then the battery length reduces but that's because the phone is constantly hunting for it's signal lock.
wow cool!, imagine 3+ days. i wish my battery would last this long.
awarner
Oct 6 2004, 08:53
This is with minimal use but all I did was the charge to 100%
then hard reset trick
Plug it back in several times
awarner
Oct 6 2004, 20:25
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Plug it back in several times
err why? :?
Charge 100% hardreset and that's it.
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Plug it back in several times
If you do this you run the risk of fooling the charing system into overcharing the battery.
Not a cool idea
kr00t0n
Oct 11 2004, 19:13
hahahahaa
thanks guys, I couldnt figure out why my battery life just seemed to suddenly become utter crap, turns out i left on the search for beam infrared thingy after connecting to my mates phone once
that hard reset with 100% full battery didnt work for me. in fact i think my battery has an even more LESS battery life.....
SnaykeByte
Oct 18 2004, 00:55
Yes, I'd like to know how to apply the GSM fix as well. I d/l it, and when I try to run it, I get an error message saying it is an image file of some sort, and then it goes to my CD drive and tries to read it.???
Montana
Oct 26 2004, 00:31
When i look at my battery i only see info on voltage , also an 820# but thats about it, is there another reference number that i should look for other than the obvious mah identity?
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When i look at my battery i only see info on voltage , also an 820# but thats about it, is there another reference number that i should look for other than the obvious mah identity?
i have also been looking for it's product part number and seem that there is none. just serial numbers.
Hmm, I have been switching from wm2002 to wm2003 many times.
A never had a battery issue, but I have noticed this:
I am using mpx200 every day heavily, so my battery life is something about, let say, 24-32 hours, never more !!!! Even I am running WM2002 ...
I did hard reset trick (even overfull baterry), etc ...
Few days before, I checked baterry life, when I was using phone like this:
-30min max call a day
-no playing with the phone !!! (flip openned when calling only)
-power on, during night
And what I get on WM2003? Max 48h life time, after 48h, when you play for a while with the phone, baterry is dead very quick ... The same is WM2002...
And don´t forget, that CPU is overclocked (120MHz -> 132Mhz) in WM2003, so It MUST eat more baterry, when operate ! So phone is faster in EVERY operation, try benchmark in Betaplayer for example ...
So tell me, how it ispossible to GET 3+ days stanby .... ??? :shock:
I can not believe this ... :roll:
Thanks
awarner
Jan 9 2005, 22:15
The CPU is not overclocked on the 2003 ROM.
Never heard of that before, where did you see this posted?
Battery life just fully charge your battery before doing a hard reset.
This can also depend on if you have been looking after your battery in the first place.
Where I heard it about ? Everywhere ! :-)))
See, @anonymous hacked ROM (second edition) has CPU overclocked to 132MHz for a better performance.
EDIT please read the site rules before posting.
Or you can use the Betaplayer, there is a CPU information in option menu and it shows 132MHz in WM2003 and 120MHz in WM2002, have a look .... :-)
This is, why wm2003 are faster then wm2002, maybe .. I don´t, know, but it doesn´t matter ... :-)
Bye.
awarner
Jan 10 2005, 23:45
2003 is certainly not faster than 2002 in any test I have done (unfortunately)
Tom0815
Jan 15 2005, 10:54
I'm on wm2002 and have no problems with my battery (820mah).
After loading the battery 3 times (using the phone until it went out, loading it) my battery had reached its full capacity.
Now i can watch about one houre+ divx films without headphones, whitch would additionally increase my battery life.
awarner
Jan 15 2005, 16:55
QUOTE(Tom0815 @ Jan 15 2005, 10:58)
I'm on wm2002 and have no problems with my battery (820mah).
After loading the battery 3 times (using the phone until it went out, loading it) my battery had reached its full capacity.
Doing this can damage your battery. You should never try to discharge a Li-ion battery as you can cause perminent damage to the batteries capacitance.
Li-ion batteries prefer to be topped up unlike Noi-Cd and Ni-Mh batteries which did
need to be discharged due to memory loss.
whitestar
Jan 17 2005, 21:24
Upgraded my MPX 200 to WM2003 last week, horrible battery life, less than 24 hrs. Read through the forum and changed the channel settings, now battery seems to be lasting as before with WM 2002, ie several days
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