Well i have some good news for you. Its the next day and i am calm. Ive also checked with my brother "the lawyer" about copyright law, and i was right so rather than rant on and have every post deleted, moderated, locked, edited or moved - ive decided to log out and not return, im sure that makes some of u happy

As for me, i didnt break any laws .... MoDaCo did, and admitted it, so today im passing the relevent info and proof through to the appropriate authorities.

Bye

You may continue your worms topic now unhindered.

I made a joke in the last post and illustrated it - WTF is wrong with u ppl - no sense of humour !!! Jesus !!!

Will, no oiffence man, but ... find a girlfriend, u need to occupy ur time. U remove my PM for posting a pic of the worms game, then tell me im not polite - Theres a place where the sun doesnt shine, i think you know where it is.

Go pick on some1 else you petty minded pratt.

PS, big heads on an avatar are one thing, but a storm trooper on a toilet .... yeah thats real polite and not at all offensive. Congrats, i think you know why on that score too. Why is it you folks keep proving the very points im making then punishing me for it, then doing it yourselves !!! - DOH !! serious IQ drop around here methinks.

If youre gonna slap me around for sumthin , fine, but at least dont go commit the same offence urselves, it really doesnt look that smart.

Ps: will .... dont forget to renew your .com - it expires on 27th march u make 2 much info available to be an online smartypants

See, now i am making the effort - i refained form making a tasteless joke about the storm trooper on the loo....... and worms - hey man, what can i say, unfortunate choice of avatar at the time lol .

NO POST IT - Or the Worm Gets It My troops are on standby

[img]http://store6.yimg.com/I/mygameroutlet_1772_1492734[/img]

ppl are still falling for it HAHAHA too funny - im going to abstain now b4 my worms make an untimely appearance

It does work both ways - I havent broken any AUP yet .... are u suggesting we get lawyers involved ? maybe i send this thread to fact instead ? I dont like threats and i like numbskulls who put words in my mouth to make me look guilty even less. I have the resources if ur game Theres only 1 modoco, theres a million ISP's

Have a good day

Well, which is breaking the law more

Ppl are using it, the login info is getting around like the java runtimes and u did get pissed off, youre also in the wrong and wont admit it What you deem aceptable is for the law to decide, not MoDoCo.

we have a chain of command here..... User, Moderator, Site Owner, Law. what happens at the top inevitably works its way down the chain, whatever you think is acceptable. and i think that simply telling ppl a free FTP is availble is more acceptable than distributing copyright rintones I dont tell ppl what they can put in it, and i can assure u, anything i deem as unsuitable would not last 5 minutes on the FTP

Geez i kinda feel like Jews & Germans here lol ......

ps: - "Well i wanna find out if ppl will use it 1st - also i may be pissing off the admins here who may ban me - and i dont want that"
- its not like i didnt give u the chance to respond then HAHAH

And basicly i dont give a crap - but thats MY acceptable use policy, not yours

Anyway, i think ive proved my point, you cant defend copyright violations, you can defend a free service - and the funny part - i defend myself with your rules ... The OPPRESSOR gets Bitten

Ok ill leave it now ... ill leave the FTP up though, if u dont mind If ppl wanna use it, thats their call, not yours, if it was your service then yes, so as admin to admin, i understand ur defeat on this matter and respect ur attempted defence; although as a moderator of modoco (therefore spokesperson for) i didnt expect u to admit the violations

L8r dudes - i suspect this topic will be read many times over, i may submit to that new smartphone mag since u deem all this stuff acceptable, there shouldnt be a problem right

Ppl are using it, the login info is getting around like the java runtimes and u did get pissed off, youre also in the wrong and wont admit it What you deem aceptable is for the law to decide, not MoDoCo.

we have a chain of command here..... User, Moderator, Site Owner, Law. what happens at the top inevitably works its way down the chain, whatever you think is acceptable. and i think that simply telling ppl a free FTP is availble is more acceptable than distributing copyright rintones I dont tell ppl what they can put in it, and i can assure u, anything i deem as unsuitable would not last 5 minutes on the FTP

Geez i kinda feel like Kilroy Silk here lol ......

- here we go with the anger again, just because u cant answer it.... Advocating the lack of music in films, thats your line pal - so whos stupid

- if youre going to quote me, plz do it with some accuracy. I said "what modoco wouldnt allow here", that means if u dont allow smoking in ur house then ill go outside n do it - which i did


- your homesteans arent data, software, freeware ? full films ill grant u right - and as previously stated, there ARE full films available all over the net which ARE free to distribute ... student films for example - ive only broken ur rules if ive mentioned specific titles which are copyrighted ... which i didnt btw

"Laws on film differ to those on music. And so on."
- So ur saying theres no music in films ? Interesting.....

"As for forum rules, I don't believe it's up to you to say what is acceptable here."
- Quite right, im only working by your rules here, not mine. surely if you make a rule, the person who made it for us all to follow should follow it himself ? yes ? - And for the record, i havent tried to dictate policy here Just stating whats already available information wise here on this very forum

Midnight - as moderator, accepting that there is copyright material on these forums, dont you think you have a responsibility to do something about that ? Its not ALL guide on decrypting dvd's ya know

Yes thanks - so it should be no problem for Paul O'Brien to remove said copyrighted material ? - youre calling the shots here, not me, as kurtfhouse rightly says - and if the board says no warez and no copyright material, then thats how it should be - yes ?

And in reference to me pedling wares - ple tell me what warez im peddling, id love to know

by the way - copyright IS a black and white issue, thats why we have extensive laws on it.

I think were back to fair use policy - this is where kazzza made its claim, and we all know how that ended up. Im not fighting for the right to swap copyrighted stuff here tho - merely tell ppl that i have an ftp which they may feel free to swap spv files in As far as i know i havent broken any laws or any forum rules.

Fast moving thread this isnt it

blowdart:
"Heh. If the DVD is encrypyed the new EU regs say it's illegal to unencrypt. "
- Which is my point, thank you.

As for the sig - i didnt edit it, it was fine b4 some1 did though

So you wont answer the question ....

blowdart - stop skirting it, n getting all agressive, im not, so ur saying youve NEVER downloaded ANYTHING illegal from a fileshare program ... EVER ? Not an MP3 ? Anything ??? if u really are cleaner than clean, youve done well, if you have, then welcome to the tar bucket

"In theory yes" - back to theories..... Copyright - Yes or No ?

≈ - hahaha install the verdana font to find out - its the double ~ character lol ...... like an equals sign but twisted

ALT+ (insert number) gives u these special characters, check out your pc's character map tool

Then why have a ppocket movie program ? just for trailers ? - do we accept that SPV is "almost" a pc (pocket pc), do we watch films in our little bundle of circuits ? do we download and watch divx ..... WE ALL DO

So - we return to Justify - is copyright breach accepted on MoDoCo, yes or No - this still hasnt been answerd plainly, but with the flair of a politician, skirting the issue.

- but they are changing that low so that you cannot make backup copies, even if you own the original - so what then for the guides ?


- im pretty sure it is - oh yes yes yes (cuenodding dog from the un-named car insurance firm)

I think the uk is becoming way too politically correct and way too jumpy.

Midnight, are you saying that swapping SPV formatted movies takes money away from the distribution companies and stuios ? how so - they dont sell SPV formatted films as far as i know.

Kurtfhouse, youre 100% right - it is Paul who has to answer. so it wouldnt be a problem then to point some of the owning companies at this thread.... if that makes you at all nervous, then there is breach going on.

Matat - youre also right, ppl dont sell homescreens as such (appart from those ebay scumballs who profit from it daily) so theres no loss of revenue - i refer that point back on the SPv fomated movies.
I dont think you can fairly compare watching a movie on an SPV to watching it on the cinema or a dvd, if you like what you see on an SPV, i think youre more likly to rent or view the full quality item in its respective viewing recepticle

And yes, we would all suffer if i were to prove my point, which is why ur all on the defence, i understand that - again though, it doesnt remove the issue of copyright - either it exists or it doesnt.

html ? theres no html in my sig ... never has been ?

To quote blowdart:

- Normally ? so are you saying that the recordings in the thead mentioned above IS BREAKING THE LAW ? If so - then it must be deleted yes ?

Your rules not mine...... I just run webservers and ftp services Hey if theres any Mirc server admins here, maybe they should watch out too

So again i ask for justification..... Is copyright theft ok on MDoCo in ANY form, image, sound or movie/trailer. even the information which to all intents describes in detai in some threads how to rip DVds and convert them to Avi/DivX and crop resize etc..... isnt this incitement to break the law ? Isnt this putting the public into a position where they can be held liable in court ?

Some1 has a lot of deleting to do i think..... or reading.

please define promotiional, surely that doesnt imply its ok to spread said 30 seconds to the public without written authorisation ?

Youre creating a grey area where there isnt one..... are the images copyright, yes or no ? - Are the sound samples copyright yes or no ?

Youre right about the 30 seconds, but legally A) if you OWN the recoed in question, and for use in professional tracks where permission is granted and where the copyright holder recieves some royalties or payment for use.

I refer:
The LAW: http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si2003/20032498.htm

Do you think it is acceptable to spread LONGHORN theme without A) Microsofts permission to use the name/trademark or its ability to reep profits from the use of said trademark ? Im almost certain Microsoft would agree with me on that score.

1 second, 100 seconds 100 million seconds - copyright IS copyright - yes ?

Seems my New FTP for SPV users got its topic banned by the admins here..... didnt seem to matter to them that any file can be swapped, be it movie or otherwise, although the intent was to share movie files.

I ask..... if its ok to delete a post offering a free service to uers, whatever the material, and have it deleted based on what i presume is a copyright thing.... the i ask the admins to please explain why these are acceptable ?

A Copyright Image of angalina Jolie


Oh, Illegal use of the Microsoft "look" isnt this breaching intelectual property ? plagerism ? I mean, Longhorn is out yet ... OR IS IT


I wonder what Mr Groning would make of this - use of his COPYRIGHT images....


BUT WAIT - THERES MORE !!!!

I refer to post:
http://smartphone.modaco.com/viewtopic.php?t=101897

Eve of War - Hmmm ... Jeff Wayne Copyright - yes ?
Eye of the Tiger - Survivor - Copyrighted ? I THINK SO !!
The Final Coundown - Europe - Yup ..... Copyrighted
Homer Berr - SIMPSONS AGAIN !! - Yup, Copyrighted sounds the show
Star Wars - Lets all rip off George Lucas !!

Come On Admins - youve opened the door, dont delete this post ..... answer it. Why is it ok to VIOLATE COPYRIGHTS as above, and have them linked HERE ON YOUR FORUM, but NOT to tell ppl about a free service which simply allows them to swap files ?

I await your cleverly worded reply - lots of ppl are here watching.... deleting it simply means you accept you are hypocrites PUBLICLY .... stuck between a rock and a hard place so to speak.

Topic of the month m8, wheeze of the week.... Off ya go Justify one breach of copyright and not the other, Copyright is a simple YES WE ALLOW IT or NO WE DONT, if you dont, then by your own rules you have to remove aLL copyrighted stuff from your forum yes ? If you do, then i can post my ftp details, yes ?

I think the wifi is via a SIDO unit.

- so if i setup a free member only forum and server where ppl could swap full SPV films, would that be of interest ? Cos basicly i dont give a hoot what u swap and i have plenty of server space