Sorry i meant WPA! I will be getting a new Router tomorrow as i realy need a new one anyway, the old Linksys is getting bit long in the tooth and could be the source of the problem. If that doesnt work, ill have to think again about getting it replaced or just getting rid.

Cheers for your help.

i have a freeware launcher for on my Today screen called cLaunch.

I cant for the life of me find a .lnk file in the Windows directory that will let me have a soft rest option as an icon within cLaunch.

The idea of this is so that i can reboot the unit without taking it out of the Brodit car holder, faffing about with the rear cover, dropping the stylus in my lap, nearly crashing the car, knocking the stylus on the floor, dropping the now completely detached rear cover, looking for a Bic biro, finding out it wont fit in the hole... (you get my point i hope!!)

Does anyone know of a filepath (or any other method) that would let me soft reset from the Today screen? i dont want to have to buy anything to do this... (skinflint that i am )

thanks all!

Can the Touch Dual last 24 hours with push email turned on (receiving 5 - 10 emails per hour)? I am thinking of getting one as a replacement for a Blackberry but it will need to be able to last at least that long.

A friend of mine bought a dual on my advice, and her battery life is shocking, not even two days

To the guys that have had theirs a while now what are you getting from yours? in the meantime I've switched it to 2G only which will hopefully help a bit

Cheers

A month on from my last post I'm glad to report that the slider hasn't got any looser.
To be honest, I haven't given it much thought since so I wouldn't class this as a "negative story"

Haha!

I think - ASIDE FROM LACK OF WIFI / GPS - it probably is!

P

don't really understand how the device gets faster with an updated media player though?

Ok I've been playing with the phone the whole day putting all the software I like on it. the reinforced touch screen is very very good you have to tap a bit harder still getting used to it but its very good.

the ram makes such c difference I have everything I could possibly want to run totalling 12 apps running and pocket plus phone suite mobile shell among other today plugins in fact I don't normally need all that running and I still have 40 mb left of ram! plus everything runs very smoothly.

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build quality is good much better than the vario 2 and the feel of the device is excellent.

a personal plus for me is that the leds are more muted or not as bright and don't light up the room when I go to sleep.

the camera is actually a lot better than the vario 2 which suprised me a lot considering they are both 2 mp.

anyway that's it for now if you have specific questions post here.

Jeremy

Thanks guys for the advice - Im going to have to get my PAC code so will try again with retentions. In the meantime - Another phone has caught my eye, its just released on o2 as the XDA Orbit 2 from O2 (aka HTC Touch Cruise). O2 have done a good job in the looks department and they are offering me £35 (inc 'unlimited' web bolt on - yes really unlimited!)... check it out: http://shop.o2.co.uk/phone/O2/Xda%20Orbit%202

So my dilema now is the Cruise or the Dual?

Dual Pros:
Has a keyboard
Dual Cons:
No Wifi or GPS

Cruise Pros:
Has Wifi and GPS
Cruise Cons:
No Keyboard

Otherwise the phone specs are identical (!)

Ive still got some days to consider...Jeremy let us have your thought on the phone after you receive it on Saturday

don't bother talking to the normal CS lot. Go straight through to the retentions team asking for your pac code. Then when they offer you the what do want to stay spiel say about the orange offer and ask if they can match. (orange offer is free phone and free data for 35 quid a month 600 mins unlimited texts on dolphin) (only 30 mb though but don't mention that)

Thats what i did no problems matched first time free phone on flext 30 and wnw no insurance Plus my existing £5 off a month total cost 32.50 a month and i hardly ever get above my inclusive allowance if ever.

Arrives Saturday. If fact he agreed so fast I should have asked for more. I didn't even need to bargain which is why I'm thinking i could have gotten more.

Try again it does work. Mine worked on 1st try

Jeremy

Phone to leave and the muppet on C/S who's obviously having a bad day will be a bad dream! Stay calm though!

My 18month contract ends 25Feb so I thought Id ring TMobile and get an upgrade to the Touch Plus (been waiting for it for ages).
They said the phone is available and I am eligble to upgrade.
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Only reason I ever wanted to stay with TMobile is due to the Web'nWalk tariff (1GB per month). The only other operator offering a decent data plan is '3' but they dont have this handset....

Not Impressed

Just ordered mine through customer services. even got a reduction on my monthly bill too! it's coming tomorrow before 1pm.

Your right we are going round in circles and again just because modacos review was just as poor and misleading as others is no excuse for it. Maybe you should avoid pre production reviews in future.

Thanks for this Paul. Picked up my Touch Plus last night and already has this lined up for install Why HTC didn't do this themselves is beyond me.

You need to be careful here. The Sales of Goods Act only covers goods not fit for purpose (section 48), and gives the consumer certain rights to rectify it under the statutary 12 month warranty. "Reasonable time" frames is as far as the Act goes (as it should) and i would interpret it as that time being in relation to sellers of similar goods, not retailers in general.

There is no mention at all of the right to return "should you not like it" (that i can see, happy to be proven wrong!). Only section 34 states you have the right, again, to a reasonable time to inspect the goods, and then reject them if the are unfit (the contract of sale is not complete until you accept it).

It's annoying, the sales of goods act gives consumers an enormous amount of power (bearing in mind it covers everything from you buying your morning newspaper to a car manufacturer buying 100 tonnes of steel...). However these powers can be significantly restricted by the retailer through the contract of sale. Joe Bloggs consumer doesn't necessarily realise this and carries on regardless. The only option you have as an informed customer in this case is to shop elsewhere...

(NB: Note i can only speak as far as UK law goes I'd assume other countries have similar rules, but the specifics likely different)

True, but the Sales of Goods Act also says the retailer should replace or refund goods should they develop a fault within a reasonable amount of time, and that it is the customer's perogative to opt to repair or to reject the goods in that period. For the vast majority of retailers in the UK, "reasonable time" is accepted as being 28 days. So eXpansys have suddenly gone from having one of the most generous returns policies to one of the most stringent. It would remain for a court to judge whether 10 days is reasonable, but in light of the industry norms, I would suspect not.

Actually, does anyone have benchmarks of the TYTNII vs other htc stuff like even the old Touch?
If the cruise isn't going to the end-all then I may as well just get the plain Touch. I don't use 3G and the TYTN II already had battery issues, now it can't even tomtom well why would I want it? Extra ram for programs I can't run smoothly?

Software wise, I really wouldnt be able to tell the difference considering I've been using a Nokia brick (62 something) for the last few months! Big difference from that definitely.

I got it on an 18month deal, they dont seem to want to know you these days if you ask for a 12 month one.

If its out of stock then thats one thing. If they're saying it hasnt even been released then they dont know what they're talking about.

Hi. I got the Flex 35 + Web and Walk, plus the promotional weekend offer and £5 off deal they've got at the moment.

Basically for £32.50 a month I'm getting 900mins/1800texts, Web and Walk (pretty much unlimited net), and unlimited calls to any network every weekend. The touch plus handset was free.

I tried to get them to throw freebies in, but they're werent having any of it. They gave me free delivery though.

If its of any help to those struggling to get through to a t-mobile sales rep who knows about the touch plus, I called and ordered on monday between 5-6pm and spoke to a rep called Robert, he certainly knew about the touch plus and sold me one within minutes.

Ok, please please dont take my word as gospel.

But I've called T-mobile twice today and both times they've told me the touch plus is available, and that they've had it from friday. Seems like the date I quoted earlier, 18th jan, was actually true just that some of their sales team were oblivious to this.

I've ordered one now (they've also got pretty good offers on at the moment, £5 off and free unlimited weekend calls on top of flex + WnW). I should get it by 1pm. I'll post back on here in the wonderful event that I do receive my long awaited touch plus tomorrow! I'm just scared they're gonna send a regular touch or a touch 256 lol.

If you guys want to give them a try, their number is 0845 41222 12

Good luck.