Look at Touch Diamond @ Expansys.

Handset Only Price: £434.95 (370.17 exc.)

Discounts available for orders of 5 units or more - call +44 (0)161 868 0868

Availability: Due Thursday 19th June

My C500 running WM6.1 is actually a pretty decent phone, but it lacks processor speed, standby time, wifi, QVGA, USB2.0, updated design etc etc. But sizewise it rocks compared to my S710 (which I sold) and to my S730 (which I never use) and to my Mteor which is a piece of crap.

Hi Paul..

You probably allready know my question, but please ask it anyway, because I´m probably not the only one interested.

When will HTC release a smartphone (non-professional) and without QWERTY, but with the plain old keyboard? (Like a HTC Typhoon 2008/9-version)

A handy candybar phone with decent stand by time, wifi etc etc etc.

/J

Hi Awarner.

Nope - everything is correct. It is a MS bug when exchange syncing 6.1.
I need to find a workaround or a registry hack to fix it.

:-)

/jakob

Anyone with a solution to errorcode 80072f06 when syncing C500 with WM6.1 to an Exchange server?

Its pretty annoying not being able to syncronize when everything else works flawlessly.

/J

Argh.. I hate xT9 - it makes typing much so slower than plain old T9..

How do I disable xT9 on a Vox ??

/Jakob

YES... Finally... A PHONE and not a crappy QWERTY device.. Even though a bit wide and a bit long.



Samsung just made my day (or my year)

But WTF´s up with the lack of WiFi??

/J

http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2008/01/06/...mobile-roadmap/

And still there is no candybar device on the way.. I know Vodafone are pretty conservative but a whole year of nothing but big and bulky QWERTY devices.
Come on - where´s the candybar device for us people who´d like to carry the phone in our jeans and not bring a trolley for our phones?

Sigh...

(And yes - at present time I´m using a S710 because my good old C500 broke down.. But it´s like bringing a brick to work everyday compared to the C500)

/J

HTC Touch Dual without Wifi = No deal.

Btw... Dangaard has put the Touch Dual on their web-site.
Pricing will be 386 euro without contract.


HTC P5500 PPC Dansk OS (Touch dual)



2899,00 DKK
Unconfirmed delivery date.

Dangaard varenr. htc0926113
Delivering a revolutionary touch experience that will change the way you use your phone, the HTC Touch™ DUAL combines an intuitive touch screen and slide-out keypad within a stunning design.

Highlights:
Discover TouchFLO™, a revolutionary touch-screen technology that allows finger-touch scrolling, panning and photo zooming
Innovative 3D touch cube interface for quick and easy navigation
Slide-out 20-key keyboard or 16-key keypad for single-handed typing
Worldwide connectivity (HSDPA, 3G, and GPRS/EDGE/GSM)
Windows Mobile® 6 Professional with Direct Push Outlook® e-mail
Live HTC Home™ featuring time and weather display, quick launcher, and one-touch ring tone settings
2 megapixel camera for shooting photos/videos and a second camera for video calls

Specifications
Processor: Qualcomm® MSM 7200, 400MHz
Operating System: Windows Mobile® 6
Memory ROM: 256MB
RAM: 128MB SDRAM
Dimensions: 107 mm (L) X 55 mm (W) X 15.8 mm (T)
Weight: 120g with battery
Display: 2.6-inch TFT-LCD with backlight LEDs, touch-sensitive screen
Network HSDPA/UMTS: 2100 MHz
HSDPA: Up to 384kbps for upload and 3.6Mbps for download
UMTS: Up to 384kbps for upload and download
GSM/GPRS/EDGE: Tri-band 900, 1800, and 1900 MHz
(The device will operate on frequencies available from the cellular network)
Device Control HTC TouchFLO™
5-Way navigation control
Keyboard or Keypad
Slide-out 20-key QWERTY keyboard
Slide-out 16-key keypad
(Subject to the HTC Touch DUAL model you have)
Connectivity Bluetooth® 2.0
HTC ExtUSB™ (11-pin mini-USB and audio jack in one), Hi-speed USB 2.0, HTC H2Wire support
Camera Main camera: 2 megapixel color CMOS camera Second camera: CIF CMOS color camera
Audio Built-in microphone and speaker
Ring tone supported formats:
MP3, AAC, AAC+, WMA, WAV, and AMR-NB
40 polyphonic and standard MIDI format 0 and 1(SMF)/SP MIDI
Battery 1,120 mAh rechargeable Li-polymer battery
Standby time:
Up to 250 hours for UMTS
Up to 180 hours for GSM
(Subject to network and phone usage) Talk time:
Up to 3 hours for UMTS
Up to 5 hours for GSM
Up to 1.78 hours for video call
(Subject to network and phone usage)
Expansion Slot microSD™ memory card(SD 2.0 compatible)
AC Adapter Voltage range/frequency: 100 ~ 240V AC,
50/60Hz
DC output: 5V and 1A

Firewalls suck.

Found an unsecured wireless connection in the neighborhood.. ho ho..

/J

Sigh..
Can´t connect from Denmark..

Connecting.. .. .. ... .. .. ..
Connection closed, Please stand by while I try to reconnect...

/J

Yes..

But phone companies are screwing things up. A smartphone is a phone with computer like functionality Wiki - a PDA is a handheld computer with phone like functionality Wiki .

I can´t see why HTC stopped making phones (apart from the S310 and the crappy Mteor (Yes, I have one)). All other products from HTC (today I can count 19 (!) at htc.com) are all PDA´s - some of them with a keyboard - some without.

What really would impress the market would be a successor to the C500 - a phone(!) with the specs of the S730 but without the spacewasting keyboard. My best guess is that you would shave of 3mm of the thickness. And instead of being 25% bigger than the C500 they would actually be same size (based on volume). A product like that would sell big time, because the only NokiaProduct will be the N95 and SE would be P1i.

But; I´m really looking forward to see the S730 on the streets.

/J

I do totally agree with you... Why o Why do they keep having these utterly useless keyboards in a PHONE? If I want a keyboard I´d rather buy a PDA.
That said - then I have to buy this one, ´cause my C500 is simply worn out (and the specs look good)

/Jakob

Thanks for the link, but it doesnt work.
I installed tha application on my Mteor, but it doesnt resolve the cell-names..

Do you know of any other celltrack application ?

BEst regards
J

I think that the Celltracker from spv-developers is probably dead. Nothing has happened at http://celltrack.spv-developers.com for years now.

Does anyone have an alternative? (for WM5)


/Jakob

Yawn..
Yet another product far-far away from what people actually want - a candybar, pocketable PHONE..

/J

Pricing will be around 430€ in DK without contract..

/J

Yes, Encece - exactly.

(and I still prefer my C500 to my Mteor..)
(Yes, the screen is nice, but the keyboard layout is not as good and the batterylife is lousy.)


/Jakob

Haha... Sound like my words in another of our threads
I´d definately prefer a Vox without the QWERTY.

Yes - the Graphite looks good and so does the specs - except for the lack of WM6.

Why-O-Why doesn´t HTC produce a front-line smartphone again??

/J

Nice.. Sounds like Paul knows something we don´t :-)

First smartphone to be seen for ages - looking very much forward to a review

/jakob

Sounds like the perfect device for you is a PDA-phone something ;-)

or

HTC has to step up and produce a proper smartphone for the rest of us.
(and a Vox for Paul )

/J

It´s a 1/3 heavier - and that´s brick-like in comparison.

Theres is absolutly NO reason to put a QWERTY keyboard in a smartphone - we´ve got plenty of PDA-phone/PC-devices containing keyboards.
If HTC dumped the keyboard, it would probably be possible to make the Vox2 = 46x102x14mm and 100grams..
(about 25% smaller than C500)

That would be interesting.

/Jakob

I totally agree with You moonshot.
To me - the present HTC Smartphone Portfolio sucks (in comparison to the C500).
I´d really like HTC to step up and build us a proper smartphone (again).

A phone does not have a QWERTY-keyboard - period. If it has a keyboard its a PDA-phone/Windows PCdevice
A PDA might have phone-functionality - then its a PDA-phone.

The Vox is not a smartphone - its a PDA-phone.

A phone has to be small (jeans-pocket-size/C500) and have a reasonable standbytime (not Mteor 1½ days w/o BT).
If I want a brick aka Nokia aka Vox I´d buy one. But what I want, is a smartphone.

/jakob

You´re right.. I thought about it numerous times.
It would just seem plain strange to "upgrade" to a 1½ year old device.

I just think that HTC should get their a... together and release a decent Smartphone
(instead of these boring PDA wannabe Smartphones)

/J

Well - I´ve got the Mteor.

But:
Standby-time is less than 2 days, the back cover keeps falling of in the pocket and it is to big.

So I´ve actually switched back to my C500 because it works so much better than the Mteor.
The only thing the C500 doesn´t have is the nice screen in the Mteor.
(and Edge/3G - but I can do without it)

/J