Yes it is.
The same thing was happening a long time ago with compact film (still) cameras. They would advertise them as "auto-focus" when, in reality, they had el cheapo "fixed-focus" lens.

That's called "fixed-focus"

Checked it out and it's not 100% functional on the i600. Don't know about the BlackJack...
On i600 the Edit menu shows up only in Tasks and Contacts, not in Messaging (SMS, MMS nor e-mail).

I'm guessing it has something to do with Samsung's MMS extensions in Outlook...

All the specs say it does, but i don't think so.
Or at least, i can't see ANY movement at all in the lens, nor hear anything when releasing the shutter.

And there's practically no delay at all after pressing the button, so i really can't see *when* it would do the auto-focusing...

Awha?
He's talking about the app...

I also own and use an SE M600i (on daily basis, along with a BB). While it's true Sony Ericsson was quite active in regard to firmware updates, there's A LOT to be said about their usability and stability. The first month was terrible. The phone was completely bugged out. The next two it was usable, but problematic. It took about 4-5 firmware updates to get the bugs sorted out and make it about as stable as my i600 was when i took it out of the box.

The first few versions of SE PC Suite were completely unusable. I've lost my data upon firmware update about three or four times, thanks to the fact PC Suite's backup manager was producing 0kb backups or backups that consistently failed to restore. Then Vista came... And SE ignored it's existance for 4 months, until they finally published an SEPC version that said "Vista compatible". With a readme note stating "This version is NOT Vista compatible".

And finally, after the last firmware update in may, SE ditched us, M600i users, and decided to stop working on this model's firmware. But we should really be grateful, because they've left P990i users with a final firmware that actually REINTRODUCED bugs and made the spacebar non-functional.

So, in the end, is all that better then what Samsung does? Less pathetic? Don't really think so...



So do Motorola users. So do HTC users. So do HP users. I see no difference there.
None of them offer any sort of update facility for the end user. Some of them offer major upgrades for some models, but that's it. So far, where updates are concerned, Nokia turned out to be most user-friendly (and useful), but it took them quite a while to get there. Remember the Communicator? Or early firmware revisions of the legendary 7650?

In the end, what i'm trying to tell you is this - you may have missed the platform altogether. WM is not the most user friendly and hands-off feature rich smartphone platform out there. Never has been. But that's not a problem that's specific to Samsung or i60x. Swedish users have every right to be upset, because they were denied part of the i600's functionality that WAS stated on the spec sheet - HSDPA. They were promised an update to fix that, along with WM6 as an additional "deal sweetener". We, on the other hand, do not have that right... We've got what we've paid for.

So, again, why did you sell your BB's?
AFAIK, i600/i607 wouldn't have the features you're asking for even with WM6.

I understand and respect that you're dissapointed with your new phone(s), but i really, really, REALLY don't understand how that's Samsung's fault. You've ditched something you were happy with, to buy something you're not happy with, while being fully informed on it's capabilities and performance.

At the same time, you blame Samsung for not delivering WM6, as you expected it would, which - in your opinion - makes i600 an unusable and inferior device. What i don't get is this: how would WM6've helped?

Would it make you feel all warm and fuzzy inside, so much so, that you'd forget it doesn't have service numbers listed under Contacts (they are in Settings>Phone>SDN, just by the way)? Or that you can't search through messages? And finally, why on earth did you buy a smartphone if you're not willing to invest in expanding it's abilities via 3rd party apps? You could've stayed with a dumbphone that does all you're asking of it, out of the box.

--- mispost, please ignore ---

The msmobiles article was the one mentioned in the thread i've linked. It was just a repost of info from another site, which was based on the very same german forum reports i've mentioned.

Regarding the rest of your acidic post, where again did you buy your phone? Sweden? Finland?

I'm not a fanboy, i'm just trying to tell you you recieved EXACTLY what you've paid for and what was advertised. Or did, perhaps, someone sell you an i600 with a spec sheet saying it has WM6? Somehow i doubt it...

Re: smartphones - the whole POINT of smartphones is extensibility. Buying a smartphone and using it "as is" makes about as much sense as buying an empty house and then complaining how underfurbished it is.

I still can't fathom what made you sell your blackberries and buy an i600 except to bitch and whine about its shortcomings... If you were happy with them, you should have sticked to them. And "letter dialing"? Come on, is that really the most critical app you're looking for in a smartphone?

I can't see mention of WM6 anywhere in here:
http://nordic.samsungmobile.com/eng/wcms/p...NR-SGH-I600.jsp
And HSDPA is listed along with UMTS, as usual, at the top.

Could you please link to the specifications you've mentioned?

Yes...
If there's no 3G icon in the status bar, you get no video call capability and also appear as videocall-incapable to anyone trying to establish a video call with you.

It's an UMTS/HSDPA-only thingy. You've got to have 3G reception to make video calls.

Nope.
Are you 100% sure you're on 3G (UMTS/HSDPA)?

Nope, that was completely anecdotal and came from a german forum (whose users mailed Samsung asking for WM6 upgrade details). Check the original thread: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?showtopic=...mp;hl=msmobiles.
That's as far from being an official announcement as me stating i600 will get levitation abilities and a coffee making functionality with the next firmware update. The original reports even pointed to a wrong page...

Show me *one* truly official announcement or PR by Samsung that states WM6 will be available for i600, and when.



No, it won't be like WM6 built-in support. The built in support is actually worse.
And just BTW, it doesn't get you cut/copy/paste nor Java. The only worthy additions are HTML e-mail, mobile Office apps that work worse than Docs To Go and tidbits like autocomplete in e-mail To: field.

As far as "sorely missed" goes, with DocsToGo and a replacement e-mail client - i see absolutely no problems or missing functions on my i600.

AFAICT, no. Send it back...

Edit: On second thought, you might want to try running the sound test. It's in the Windows folder (SoundTest.lnk). You can find the appropriate shortcut here: http://www.modaco.com/Hidden-Windows-Programs-t256299.html

Which firmware are you running?
The latest two (i think) have a bug that bogs down memory card transfer rates.

There was never an official announcement nor press release. They were all rumours.


Eh? Awha?


Sole valid points. I agree wholeheartedly.


Dude... It's a smartphone. You can install applications on it. There are viewers and editors and things like Profimail and Flexmail...


Believe it or not, HTC is one of very *rare* manufacturers with that kind of support. With HP you had to *BUY* the upgrades. Remember hx4700? Not only have you had to buy the upgrade to WM5, but it was late by almost a year and it sucked so bad people were mass-downgrading. And don't even get me started on Motorola and MPx's.


So, let's see... You got everything Samsung advertised, but you consider your money wasted, because you didn't get an OS you never paid for in the first place? Right. Makes sense

Is your USB in activesync mode?

Nope, that doesn't help.
The root on my card is empty, yet i still get the same hang on ring tone selection.

The only solution that worked for me so far, was to remove all the MP3's from My Documents...

GD1 is newer (see here: http://www.modaco.com/content-page/253760/Array/page/60/. I don't see any major differences.

Nope.

Actually, there's a WM6 update for i600 floating around as well. Haven't seen it personally, but it's allegedly a very early, buggy release and is not worth flashing.

Yeah, that's the impression i got as well...

That's... odd... I've heard the exact opposite - that Samsung's ARM's are faster then the equivalent OMAP, while having a similar power consumption (or as fast as OMAP with lower power consumption).

This, of course, is also second hand, unconfirmed info, however, from what experience i've had with HTC's devices with Samsung CPU's, i definitely wouldn't say they are sluggish or slower than an XScale or OMAP (purely subjective impression, though).

These people:
http://en.soft4gsm.com

... seem to have a few service manuals/schematics available for i600, but at a price (membership isn't free).

The reason OMAP was chosen instead of XScale was probably battery life.

Anyway, i find it has plenty of speed for what i use it for (i don't play videos on it, as i find the concept ridiculous, i don't play any games, nor use any GPS mapping software - the last mostly because i can't seem to find any that works properly on i600) and i'm glad a less power-hungry CPU was used, considering the battery capacity.