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Guest kalinte

this is a reaction to the increasingly strict rule of not using your mobile while filing up. to the extent of the attendant asking you to switch your mobile off. if cell phones ang gasoline dont mix why havent i seen cars bursting into flames in the middle of the road since thousands of "stupid drivers" are using thier phones in a gasoline filed car.

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Guest ferret

It may be that time of night when I should go to bed because I've had too much to drink but when you're driving the petrol is contatined in a tank, and when you're filling up, there's petrol vapour being released in the forecourt :?:

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Guest roncom

Not to mention Nokia phones suddenly exploding because of faulty batteries ... imagine that while filling up your car... hehehe .. aint a pretty sight.

Cheers!

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Guest kalinte

hmmm so if my tank is half filled with petrol the other half is? has anyone actually seen such phenomenon? cellphone induced petrol explosion? static electricity is different.

Posted from my SmartPhone!

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Guest dobby_gobby_man

walang katotohanan na sasabog yung sasakyan o kung ano man ang sabisabing sasabog kapag nasa gasoline station ka kapag naka-ON yung C.P. mo!!! eh lima nga kaming nakaopen at ginagamit ang cel namin eh(nasa gasoline station kami) e ni hindi man lang sumindi o sumabog yung lugar o yung sasakyan! eto yung mga phone na gamit namin SAP, nokia3650, nokia8250, nokia6210, at nokia3310. e wala namang nangyayari.... ilang beses nang ginagawa namin yun wala parin. as in WALA :)

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Guest mcwarre

A mobile phone is a transmitter. As sucj it has the capability of creating a spark in air. In a petrol station there are fumes about; it is more likely that a mobile phone will cause a spark in this type of atmosphere. Spark+fumes=fire. Certain transmittes can be used in this environment but they are intrinsically safe and cannot create a spark. Mobile phones are not intrinsically safe. (I am a communications engineer so know what I am talking about)

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Guest chucky.egg

I'd be much more inclined to worry if the attendant at our local station wasn't on the phone to his brother EVERY time I went in there.

I'm off there now with some balloons and a bit of nylon carpet... I'll let you know what happens. :)

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Guest kalinte

i found a store space on petron premises here. i'll make it a point to make a call near the gas station everyday just to prove a point. he he he

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Guest ferret
I'd be much more inclined to worry if the attendant at our local station wasn't on the phone to his brother EVERY time I went in there.

I've seen an attendant having a cigarette in the shop entrance when I was going to work at 4 in the morning. :shock:

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Guest kalinte

in general i think that the ganger that mobiles pose on gas station is nothing but over rated. just like the announced danger of standing in front of your microwave while its on. i consider using your mobile while driving hundred times more dangerous than using it while filling up. i have yet to see a gas station blow up just because of a lousy phone call. cheers.

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Guest mortenharkett722
walang katotohanan na sasabog yung sasakyan o kung ano man ang sabisabing sasabog kapag nasa gasoline station ka kapag naka-ON yung C.P. mo!!! eh lima nga kaming nakaopen at ginagamit ang cel namin eh(nasa gasoline station kami) e ni hindi man lang sumindi o sumabog yung lugar o yung sasakyan! eto yung mga phone na gamit namin SAP, nokia3650, nokia8250, nokia6210, at nokia3310. e wala namang nangyayari.... ilang beses nang ginagawa namin yun wala parin. as in WALA  
There is a possibilty that a fire may start from the gasoline fumes and the radiation emitted by the mobile fones. Pero di naman ganun kalala na as in paglapit mo sasanog agad. Ksi kung ganun ipagSPAMwal na ang cellphone. It is better to be safe than sorry. Eh kung sumabog kya ang gas station dahil sa pag gamit mo ng cellphone, bka forever ka na di makapag gasolina at cellphone?

A mobile phone is a transmitter. As sucj it has the capability of creating a spark in air. In a petrol station there are fumes about; it is more likely that a mobile phone will cause a spark in this type of atmosphere. Spark+fumes=fire. Certain transmittes can be used in this environment but they are intrinsically safe and cannot create a spark. Mobile phones are not intrinsically safe. (I am a communications engineer so know what I am talking about)

Static electricity ba yun?

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Guest dobby_gobby_man

mortenharkett722:

There is a possibilty that a fire may start from the gasoline fumes and the radiation emitted by the mobile fones. Pero di naman ganun kalala na as in paglapit mo sasanog agad. Ksi kung ganun ipagSPAMwal na ang cellphone. It is better to be safe than sorry. Eh kung sumabog kya ang gas station dahil sa pag gamit mo ng cellphone, bka forever ka na di makapag gasolina at cellphone?

ummmm i dont think so coz im doing this thingy thing (using my SAP on gas stations) for 2 weeks at shell gas station Fairview branch.... and here i am still alive and kickin' and nothin happened. marami ngang nagyo2yosi sa mga gas stations about a meter and nothing happens... and kung yosi nga sinasabing mas delikado how much more kung CP :)

well try ko ulit for another one week and report ulit ako kung ano nangyari sakin. :lol:

at hindi nyo ba alam na ang sasakyan nagggenerate yan ng electricity when you start your cars engine? mas delikado yun kesa sa kung ano man meron sa CP na sinasabi nyong delikado sa mga gas stations. try nyo sirain yung wires ng car nyo sa may bandang susian then try nyong pagdikitin yung dalawa and i tell you mag-spark. so that means it generates electricity. e ang phone natin doesnt emit such kind of electricity gaya ng car so that means hindi sya delikado.

and conclusion ko dyan hindi totoong delikado yung CP kapag ginagamit sa gas stations. maybe it just so happen someone was using a CP sa gas station at may nagsindi ng yosi using of course lighter then suddenly it exploded. at pinaghinalaan na CP ang may gawa.

parang sa bombang naganap sa LRT station... pinaghinalaang isang CP ang ginamit "modified" daw into a bomb para hindi madetect ng mga guard. e kaya ito pinaghinalaan dahil meron silang metal particles na galing sa mga bomb shells... :lol: so ano nangyari sa imbestigasyon... e di mali yung impormasyon! :lol:

sa maniwala kayo at hindi e walang masama kung gumamit ng CP sa mga gas stations.. ok? basta a week ulit ako gagamit ng cel sa tuwing dadaan ako sa shell. wish me luck :lol:

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Guest SmartGuy

Well...frankly, I do not know anything about those technical stuff about frequencies that will create sparks and other things. All I can say is, do not play with fire. Probably, the most appropriate would be 'DO NOT TEMPT THE DEVIL' :evil: . There are a million reasons why that might happen.

Personally, Id want to live my life. :)

Its up to you na lang how you do yours.

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I agree with Smartguy. And dobby, when will you start believing these things? Pag may nangyari na sayo at nadedo ka na? Sige post ka lang dito kung may nangyari nasayo para malaman din namin ang katotohanan...sana lang makapag-post ka pa :)

My point is, anong mawawala sayo kung maging extra careful at sigurista ka lang? Kesa mag-take ka ng chance? Well, I dont really believe in that, too but its better to be always safe than be sorry.

Anyway, just dont convince people about what you believe lalo na ang basis mo ay ang personal experience mo lang kase ang buhay nila hindi dapat naka-depende kung ano experience ng ibang tao...mahirap paniwalaan yang sinasabi mo na hindi too kse alive ang kickin ka pa :lol:

Btw dobby, ano pala nangyari sa imbestigation sa LRT...bitin ang story mo eh :lol:

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Guest kalinte

@dino the point is misinformation on their part. in these days, information is power and the misinformed? powerles drones. if they tell me that cellphones can blowup gas stations then the least they should do is make it real and probaly and give an example that we can reproduce. " like my science teacher used to say".

"500 years ago they were sure the earth was round" - Agent K men in black@dino the point is misinformation on their part. in these days, information is power and the misinformed? powerles drones. if they tell me that cellphones can blowup gas stations then the least they should do is make it real and probaly and give an example that we can reproduce. " like my science teacher used to say".

"500 years ago they were sure the earth was flat" - Agent K men in black

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Guest Croccy22

Anyone who watched the sky show 'Brainiac' Will already know that this is all a load of rubbish.

They filled a caravan with gasoline and left it in there for a bit so all the fumes spread. They then stuck about 16 mobile phones all over the caravan and phoned them all at the same time. Bugger all happened.

What they ehn did to porve a point was ran a wire to the caravan and stood a bloke wearing nylon clothes in a rubber bucket and got him to jiggle about a bit, he than touched the wire and the caravan exploded.

Thus proving that wearing Nylon clothing in a petrol station is far more dangerous that making a phone call. And where are the signs to say please remove all nylon clothing??????

A mobile signal itself cannot ignite the fumes. The only thing that could would be a bad connection on a battery or something that caused a spark in the phone. This has actually been proven on many occasions but because occasionaly some petrol station somewhere happens to blow up and a bloke was on a phone at the time, then he will always set the blame coz it is the easiest way to explain why a petrol station exploded :D

Matt

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Guest dobby_gobby_man

ganito kasi yung gusto kong palabasin na hindi dapat masyadong magpapaniwala sa mga haka-haka lamang. sa dinami daming mayayaman na nagpupunta sa mga gas stations and using their CP and nothing happens. e di dapat araw araw e merong reports na naririnig o napapanood natin sa TV about yung mga accidente na nangyari sa mga gas stations na sumabog dahil sa CP. e kaso wala naman. at saka dapat matagal nang ginawa ito ng mga terorista kung ganun lang kadaling magpasabog ng gas stations at syempre makakatipid sila kasi bibili lang sila ng CP na mura at gamitin sa mga lugar na to. e kaso wala talagang katotohanan. kaya hindi rin ako nagiingat kasi wala naman dapat pagingatan kasi maling paniniwala lang ito. mamayang hapon dadaan ako sa shell may pupuntahan ako at gagamitin ko yung CP habang nilalagyan yung car ng gas :D

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Guest roncom

No one claims it happened

No one is claiming it will

But many claims it could. .. I should know, i'm a chemist.

It's not a matter of misinformation nor whether the world is flat or round. It's a matter of taking a risk of it happening or not. And like Dino said, you won't loose anything for keeping your phones down for a couple of minutes.

But then again... if you want to use your phones just to prove your point... no one is stopping anyone. :D

Cheers! :wink:

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Guest kalinte

now that's a sensible idea.......... ban nylon clothing from gas station. better still add ballons and carpets. coz it's been proven to cause a spark.

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Guest dobby_gobby_man

galing na po ako doon after eating at jollibee.... actually hindi lang ako ang gumamit ng cel... at yung dalawang trabahador sa shell gumagamit din ng cel (using S.E. and nokia3310)

sobra walang nangyari... speculations..... ha! walang nangyari. :D

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Guest dobby_gobby_man

oh syempre ayaw nyo paring maniwala sakin. o eto... dahil ayaw nyong maniwala, nagresearch ako at eto ang nakuha ko...

lahat ng mga sinasabi nyong accidents occurs when using CP sa mga gas stations eh galing lahat sa EMAILS (rumors). syempre hindi parin ito sapat at maniwala kayo... o eto yung lumabas sa mga email na sinasabing delikado:

Email example contributed by A. Achacoso, 18 Jul 2002:

Subject: SAFETY alert - Mobile Phones and Refueling Don't mix  

What's the problem  

The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning about three incidents where Mobile Phones have ignited fumes while being answered or ringing during fueling operations.

What specifically happened  

Case 1  

The phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling, it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump.  

Case 2  

An individual suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.  

Case 3  

An individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car.

tingnan nyong mabuti... nilabas pa na sa shell oil company pa nangyari yung accidents na sinasabi... sana nabasa nyo.... eto naman ang sagot nang shell company sa email na yan!!!

Comments:    

According to Shell Oil, allegedly the source of the information, the email is a complete hoax and did not originate from the company.  "We're not aware that there has ever been an incident where this has happened," a Shell representative told Reuters in February 2003. A mobile phone industry spokesperson labeled it an "urban legend."  

No real-world evidence exists to support these claims. Although Internet rumors have circulated since 1999 to the effect that cell phone use near gas pumps can cause fires or explosions by igniting gasoline vapors (prompting many service stations to post warnings on their pumps), not a single case has ever been documented.  

The earliest rumors connecting wireless phones with refueling fires have been traced back to a 1999 China Post article alleging that an Indonesian driver was badly burned when "a spark from the static electricity in the mobile [phone] ignited the petrol vapor," blowing up his car. Though never independently confirmed, the tale won credulity among cautious petroleum industry executives, in part because some cellular phone manuals shipped during the 1990s contained warnings against using the products anywhere gasoline vapors might be present. But the danger was, and is, purely theoretical. An investigation completed in 2001 by the Center for the Study of Wireless Electromagnetic Compatibility at the University of Oklahoma found "virtually no evidence to suggest that cell phones pose a hazard at gas stations."

oh ano na? galing na mismo sa shell oil company ang mga salita. o baka naman iniisip nyo e rumors din tong nilagay ko e di mas maganda try to contact the SHELL "personally" para malaman nyo. :D

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