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New Orange ROM vs Imate - COME ON ORANGE!


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Guest Simon Desser

I've just installed the new Orange ROM, and here's a few initial findings compared to the latest Imate ROM :P

Earpiece quality on calls:-

Imate = Crap, tinny, no bass

Orange = Still crap, tinny, no bass

SMS Delivery Reports by Default:-

Imate = YES (see screenshot)

Orange = NO!!!

Adding/Recording voice (AMR) in MMS messages:-

Imate = YES (see screenshot)

Orange = STILL NO!!!

Adding Video (3gp/mp4) to MMS messages:-

Imate = YES (can't record) (see screenshot)

Orange = NO!!!

Text Input (Swapping between T9, Symbols and Numbers etc.)

Imate = Quick access to choices (see screenshot)

Orange = Still a ball-ache!!!

In built File Manager:-

Imate = YES (IA File Manager)

Orange - NO!!!

(Useful to get to exe's/cabs on SD card straight after a hard reset 8) )

I wasn't expecting anything massive from Orange with this update, but I did expect HTC's improvements in other ROMS to be implemented in this one :?

File Manager.gif

Text Input.gif

Sending Video by MMS.gif

Adding & Recording Voice to MMS.gif

Delivery reports by default.gif

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Guest ajb3000

I somehow doubt Orange will release anymore updates for the e200 as they want everyone to upgrade to the C500. I really can't wait for another operator in the UK to bring out a Smartphone and actually provide a decent ROM, if they can do it with the Imate, what's Oranges excuse, or do they just not care?

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Guest beersoft

does the imate still have the white line thingy??

im suprised they haven't fixed that one yet :S

i'll check the updated rom for the anoying bugs (sd card/random bluetooth turning on on reboot/lockup when the sun shines and things) but the 2.7.1.1 rom looks good at the moment

later

Owen

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Guest tooney

How did you get back to the orange rom from imate? Ive tried all sorts and keep getting invalid image error, even with florin's fixed exe.

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Guest tooney

imate is the best rom I've used so far but the t9 bug is a pain and I hate the seperate mms prog.

And yes it still has the white line thingy :P

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Guest drblow

He he! Come on, it must be fairly embarrassing working at the Orange ROM headquarters!! The first "update" was designed purely to fix the pathetic state that the phones were shipped originally, namely the buzzing earpiece. While it did fix that, it created a whole bunch of other serious issues. Now this one seems to be aimed at correcting the ridiculous attempot at fixing the original buzzing problem by simply turning the call volume down!! :?

They're not really updates as such, more like essential maintenance!! Orange has consistently proven that it is incapable of listening to users or addressing issues in a proper manner. This excuse for an update is just more proof that Orange has no intention of ever offering true support to the smarttphone market, and should be taken by all as a sign that they don't respect you as a customer, they couldn't care less about your phone issues, and they are still laughing all the way to the Leeds as the only smartphone provider in the market place.

Oh for the time when competition puts O in their place! :evil:

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Guest Simon Desser

And another thing :?

If you look at the date the NK.nbf file in the Orange update was created, it was the 17th June, and the set up exe was created and released on the 5th August :shock:

That means it took 7 weeks to release once it had been created :shock:

So presumably the delay was because it was thoroughly tested for 7 weeks by Orange before they released it :?:

So can we therefore assume that Orange are totally happy with this update and that there are no bugs or problems with it :?: :wink:

(The time gap on the imate ROM seems to be 9 days :P )

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Guest serialkillazzs

nedge or simon can u update from old e2oo uk rom to imate latest rom without downgradin the bootloader. plus what network you on and what country u in. im on o2 uk so was wonderin if it is ok to apply imate update, with hopefully my gprs/wap/mms settings still workin. p.s is the latest rom still up on imate site

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Guest shardy

Has anyone tried swapping between the new Orange ROM and the imate one yet? Do the update methods that worked for the previous Orange ROM still work for this new one?

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Guest crafty

In defense of the Orange ROM, it does mean you can use the Orange homescreen plugin :P

Of the other missing features the only really annoying one is not being able to record sound for MMSs. I can already add video to an MMS of explore files with Smart Explorer, select delivery reports through a homescreen shortcut and i don't need to change languages mid-text, so for me the Orange ROM is the winner. Is the AMR recorder part of the MMS app on the IMate ROM or a standalone app - any chance of posting it seperately for those of us on the Orange ROM to use (if that's not hightly illegal?!?).

The ability to use the Orange homescreen plugin really makes it the winner for me and while it sucks that Orange haven't implemented funcitonality that clearly exists, i can live without it.

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Guest Simon Desser
Has anyone tried swapping between the new Orange ROM and the imate one yet? Do the update methods that worked for the previous Orange ROM still work for this new one?

Yeah :P

Just tried it using Florin's fixed exe and it worked :D

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Guest Simon Desser
In defense of the Orange ROM, it does mean you can use the Orange http://smartphone.modaco.com/viewforum.php?f=43>homescreen plugin :P
True :D (but I don't like it :lol: )

I can already add video to an MMS

How d'you do that :?:

and i don't need to change languages mid-text
I'm talking about changing between Symbols, T9, Numbers and mult-tap (Not languages)

Is the AMR recorder part of the MMS app on the IMate ROM or a standalone app - any chance of posting it seperately for those of us on the Orange ROM to use (if that's not hightly illegal?!?)

It's part of the MMS app, but I couldn't get it to work on an Orange ROM (privelges and stuff like that :? )

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Guest ajb3000

In SmartExplorer, select a file, then go to File > Send & Recieve > Send by email or MMS. Still can't record the damn things though, I don't get why IAStyle decided to record in AVI as opposed to the widely used 3GP, and then block out the send by MMS option in their app?!

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Guest Simon Desser
In SmartExplorer, select a file, then go to File > Send & Recieve > Send by email or MMS.

Yeah, but this doesn't ACTUALLY work :?

It lets you add the video and it shows it's attached, but when you send it it's not there :? and it's gone when you look in your sent items too :shock:

The same happens when using "Smart Insert" too :cry:

I've tried all sorts in the past, and the only way I've found that works is using a non Orange ROM that uses a seperate MMS client :shock:

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Guest crafty

I thought that Smart Explorer let you send an MMS with vid but i hadn't actually tried cus i don't know anyone with a phone that can receive them :P! What's the advantage of having a menu to change input method over holding down star, is it just a bit quicker? Each to their own - i can definately see the advantages of the IMate ROM and more than than i can appreciate a carrier who has put the time in to improve their product, but for me the Orange plugin tips the balance.

There are some v nice themes out there that use the Orange plugin to great effect like DrBlow's work (or :roll: my iCandy theme :roll:...)

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Guest serialkillazzs

upgraded and downgraded with the new and old e200 roms, but still cant seem to get imate rom to work, ie cant get it past 113 error,havent got it to say old rom to imate rom anyone any ideas. simon i tried pressing escape before it started upgradin from old e200 rom and used floris patch within imate rom settins folder on my desktop,but no luck. somebodys bound to have an easier full proof step by step method

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Guest shardy

I have tried every possible method of installing the imate update on my E200 and they all fail! The Greek method freezes at 10% and the fixed exe gives me an error 117 :cry: I have the 1.07.02 doc bootloader so I'm guessing that maybe part of the problem Has anyone esle got it working with this bootloader? If anyone has any further suggestions I'd be very grateful. Thanks

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Guest evilminky

so which is better? recently people have been liking the new orange rom, but after using the qteck rom i dont think i would like to go back to the old style input method switching think ill go for the imate,

has anyone gone from qteck to imate? was it easy? what method?

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