Guest Third_of_Five Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 http://www.smartphonedn.com/forums/viewtop...php?p=1172#1172 Allegedly. Also be aware that it removes all orange settings but apparently these can be manually re-entered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jcinfo Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 yes y confirm my spv is not loked for ANY certifications !!! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest The_Brickster Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Looks promising, but what's the bet it's a hoax? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 yes y confirm my spv is not loked for ANY certifications !!! :D Ok so have you installed any un-certified apps then? Let us know if it works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest jcinfo Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 yes regedit my tools , etc .. no probleme y conect whith sdk to thr register !! no limit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest youngerpants Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 OK, will someone please post a how to for this workaround (hmmm, and any funky apps they may have completed :wink: ) Ta very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest DJHope Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Oh yes cant wait for this patch :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Sounds good, when do you plan to release the patch? P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest awarner [MVP] Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 I suppose the big question will be.. Will the orange update still work? or will it look for tampering before installing? :? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest youngerpants Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 worst comes to the worst backup hard reset update restore sorted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest muude Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Can't we just have a look at the version you're using??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Deno123 Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 How can you re-enter the orange settings if required, when update is available?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MBoden Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 i took this from microsoft.public.smartphone.developer, and i haven't tried it, but it seems to be the same way as the french site explains : "It's finaly so easy to unlock the phone... Some peoples on the smartphony.org forums found the way, using... a bug :D I'll explain for non french readers : You do a Hard Reset of the phone (you'll lose everything so do a backup first!) Then wait for the PIN code entry. Do nothing, just wait some time (about 10-15 minutes should be enough). Then reboot. And VOILA !!! No more protection !!! The only problem is the Orange parameters, you will have to put them back by hand afterward, or do a reprovisionning with modified prov. files. I tried this weekend, and since, I can run my own developped software on my SPV. Thanks a lot Arisme and the other peoples who hang around the french smarpthone forums :)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sebset Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 You can access to the French forum in English by using: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...Flanguage_tools The smartphony.org homepage in English: http://translate.google.com/translate?u=ht...org/stories.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 This doesn't appear to work on UK SPVs tho... P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacemonkey Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 OK, just noticed this thread here, I've been watching on smartphonedn for a while. Just finished reading the entire frikking french forum through altavista... (oh my eyes)... Basically what seems to happen is that you do a hard reset and then you are the "Manager" of the phone... this means you have all the rights. But after you enter your PIN and it starts up the first thing the OS does is read through a whole pile of XML in the windows directory which configures the phone for Orange, applies the appropriate certificates and then removes your "Manager" status. What the french are doing is killing it at that stage, then when the phone comes back it doesn't think it's coming back from a hard reset, doesn't process the XML and you're wahey... but with none of the other settings you want. In the french forum there was a Swiss? guy who couldn't get it to work (similar to Paul's report that it doesn't work for UK)... but... What the swiss guy suggested (that I'm gonna have a play with tomorrow) is that you get the right piece of the setup XML, edit it to give the rights and certificates that you want. Then you hard reset, and at the wait for PIN stage get ready to active sync. If you can get the phone on active sync and copy your edited setup XML on before the phone get's to processing that particular one then you will be laughing. Cos, not only will you have made yourself permanent manager but it will have processed all the normal Orange settings so your phone will be a happy chappy. Supposedly this sort of behaviour is completely safe, cos worst case scenario you can do a normal hard reset and go back to your previous existance. Don't know which piece of XML needs tweaking but I'll find the b*****d. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest aGeS Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Will this maybe make it possible to really unlock the SPV for all networks ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PsychoDave Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Good luck to you man. For all our sakes and the the fate of the SPV lie in your hands... but no pressure tho :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Emad Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 aGeS, its already possible to unlock the spv for all networks - see the sticky or you can always ask orange for the unlock code (at a price, of course :D). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest muude Posted January 13, 2003 Report Share Posted January 13, 2003 Before I try this I just want to make sure of something... Will my phone go back to "normal" if it fails and I then make a normal hard reset?? I don't want to f**k up my phone completely in an experiment.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest spacemonkey Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 I haven't actually tried this yet... but... it's not making ny modifications to the ROM so yes, a normal hard reset should bring your phone back to a working state. Alas... no one can offer any gaurantees in life. As to a proper network unlock... if the network sim lock is handled in software then a no certification required phone is inherently modifiable at a software level, so opening the network sim lock becomes a bit more possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 I can confirm I have done a hard reset, left if at the PIN screen OVERNIGHT, entered PIN, still locked :D P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arisme Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 doesn't surprise me ... I think that such a ridiculous problem is not too complicated to fix :wink: but I wonder why we happy French users still have it ... and spacemonkey you're right, a simple hard reset (with a faster PIN entry for us) will put the phone back in its standard configuration ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sam2380 Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 I was under the impression that you had to restart after waiting 15 minutes at the pin screen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arisme Posted January 14, 2003 Report Share Posted January 14, 2003 not for my configuration at least (rom operator : 1.1.6.7 / manufacturer : 1.1.6.7 / language : 1.1.6.7 / Microsoft : 3.0.12255.0 / File System : 3.0.12255.0) don't you love 5 digits version numbers :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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