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[ichilton]

pride429, on Mar 1 2005, 19:53, said:

Operator 5.31.1.124
ROM 1.31.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/13/04
Radio 1.06.02
Protocol 1337.38
ExtROM 1.31.124 WWE

Yep - those are the latest Orange versions at the moment.

--ian

[Pondrew]

UPDATE: T-Mobile UK have begun distributing the latest MDA III Rom update.

Bluetooth is updated to build 3500
Blackberry connectivity apparently included
External Rom version updated to 1.06.160

More details to follow...

[dazza12]

Having spoken to Orange data support about various Bluetooth problems, Orange are adamant that there is only one version of the M2000 out there.

I have quoted all of my version numbers to them, and the guy on the other end of the phone agreed mine were indeed older versions. I've got the original November 2004 M2000.

I'm waiting for them to get back to me. It all started when I complained that the Swiss seem to have the support that we don't get in the UK. They also claim that the Swiss update only brings that M2000 up to UK standards! After unsuccesfully trying that one on, hopefully we get a better response (and someone within Orange UK realising there's a ROM upgrade they've forgotten to release!).

[Pondrew]

Sounds a ridiculous suggestion.

If there was only one then they would all have the latest Bluetooth build and the later rom date. They don't (I don't even know if even the newer M2000s have bluetooth build 3500?).

With regards the latest MDA III update, bluetooth is greatly improved but aside from that I can see no difference what so ever as I'm not going to use new Blackberry software...

EDIT: just looked back and I see the latest M2000s do indeed have the latest Bluetooth build 3500. Incidentally I HAVE seen mention of a build 3900 elsewhere but don't believe this has been officially released by anyone yet.

Edited by Pondrew, 22 March 2005 - 11:21 PM.

[markthebaggie]

Pondrew, on Mar 22 2005, 00:21, said:

UPDATE: T-Mobile UK have begun distributing the latest MDA III Rom update.

Bluetooth is updated to build 3500
Blackberry connectivity apparently included
External Rom version updated to 1.06.160

More details to follow...

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

How do we get hold of the update? Looked on  the web site but cannot find anything and emailed customer services who still haven't come back to me.

[WWWeed]

I got mine on the First of march

Operator Version 5.31.1.124
ROM Versn 1.31.00 WWE
ROM date 12/13/04
Radio Versn 1.06.02
Protocol Versn 1337.38
ExtROM Versn 1.31.124.WWE

BT v1.0.0 broadcom Build 3500

[Pondrew]

markthebaggie, hopefully customer services may be able to send it out to you. I didn't want to wait so got it from xda-developers.com.

[markthebaggie]

Pondrew, on Mar 23 2005, 11:27, said:

markthebaggie, hopefully customer services may be able to send it out to you. I didn't want to wait so got it from xda-developers.com.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Customer Services have just rung me - they are burning CDs and sending them out with the update to whoever asks.

[warren]

markthebaggie, on Mar 23 2005, 15:47, said:

Customer Services have just rung me - they are burning CDs and sending them out with the update to whoever asks.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

You sure about this

I phopned about this today and was told that they are one hundred% sure that there is only one version of the rom since its launch.

go figure



Sorry guys thought you were talking about orange! bit embarrased now as i gave them such a rolloking about it oops

Edited by warren, 24 March 2005 - 03:04 PM.

[sazoo]

Pondrew, on Mar 22 2005, 23:23, said:

EDIT: just looked back and I see the latest M2000s do indeed have the latest Bluetooth build 3500. Incidentally I HAVE seen mention of a build 3900 elsewhere but don't believe this has been officially released by anyone yet.

I downloaded the 3900 upgrade a couple weeks ago.   Haven't used it a lot but it's seeming stable so far

Got it from a link on Howardforums.com

[Pondrew]

I can believe it.

The difference between build 1900 and 3500 was incredible though. No more lockups when using Bluetooth manager...

[wideawake]

Well after my original phone developed a fault (ok so I cracked the screen!!)

My replacement had an inferior ROM.

Bluetooth no longer worked correctly (I use an I-Tech clip headset)

After a many hours of complaint to Orange Customer services, I think I finally have got through to them that there are indeed in exsistence different ROMS for the M2000.

They have escalated my call and I should have a response in 5 days (geez if that is escalation!!)

My original Rom was:-

Operator 5.31.1.124
ROM 1.31.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/13/04
Radio 1.06.02
Protocol 1337.38
ExtROM 1.31.124 WWE
BT: Build 3500

My replacement Rom was:

Operator: 5.12.1.139
Rom: 1.12.22 wwe
Rom date: 09/27/04
Radio: 1.04.00
Protocol 1337.35
EXT rom: 1.12.139 wwe
BT c1.0.0. build 2200

Becomes apparent why my BT does not work!!

I obviously couldnt wait for Orange, so xda-developers.com to the rescue.....

My spec is now:-

Operator 5.31.1.124
ROM 1.31.00 WWE
ROM Date 12/13/04
Radio 1.08.00
Protocol 1337.38
ExtROM 1.31.124 WWE
BT: Build 3900 (After patch)

And guess what... My BT works perfectly. (It was actually the ROM build that seemed to make the difference not just the BT build)

Let's see what Orange come back with......

[martinlaidlaw]

markthebaggie, on Mar 23 2005, 15:47, said:

Customer Services have just rung me - they are burning CDs and sending them out with the update to whoever asks.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

Funny, I got this responce from an e-mail to T-mobile -

Quote

Thank you for you email regarding software issues on the MDA III.

I have checked with our Technical Support Department and currently, we are unaware of any software update for the phone above.

I have listed below the details for the manufacturer of the phone who would be able to assist you with any issues relating to that particular model.

HTC (manufacture MDAs & SDA)

Telephone Number:  08712 230 217/8

Opening Hours:  8 - 9.00 to 12.30 & 13.30 to 17.30 (Mon to Fri)

I do apologise that I am unable to assist you further with your query, and for any inconvenience this may cause.

I have added a note to your account with the details of your email.

If you require further help do not hesitate to contact myself or one of my colleagues or alternatively, please visit us at http://www.t-mobile.co.uk

Have a good bank holiday weekend.

Regards
Customer Services
T-Mobile

[Pondrew]

Martinlaidlaw, I had exactly the same experience with customer service. Two calls were made. The first denied any knowledge of an update and didn't seem to know anything about Blackberry. The second knew about the Blackberry service T-Mobile are now offering but referred me to my nearest T-Mobile business centre. Couldn't be bothered so found the update myself.

See the post below from the news thread. There apparently are T-Mobile representatives that know about the update and are able to send CDs out...

xda-rocks, on Mar 25 2005, 15:37, said:

I spoke to T-Mobile customer services yesterday who told me no such update was available.

I insisted there was and was put through to two more reps before speaking to a helpfull very helpful chap called Derek in technical who said he would get a CD out to me asap and I could call back when I'd got the BB client installed to enable the service for £10/month for 50mb of instant email.

Another chap called James (also from technical) then left a message on my voicemail saying that he was posting out the CD and I should get it in the next couple of days - can't wait.

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

[Pondrew]

A little update on some experimenting I've been doing today.

I bit the bullet this morning risking all in installing the very latest radio stack version onto my HTC Blue Angel (T-Mobile badged MDA III). I've not done much testing since beyond dialing out and receiving a text message so far but everything seems to be working fine.

What is the upgrade I've done? I've installed radio stack 1.10.00 (recently released on devices in Germany and suggested to improve both bluetooth range and telephony/signal strength).

So my device information now reads:

ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version: 1.10.00
Protocol version: 1337.391
ExtROM version: 1.06.160

with bluetooth build 3500

[fraser]

Pondrew, on Mar 28 2005, 11:29, said:

I bit the bullet this morning risking all in installing the very latest radio stack version onto my HTC Blue Angel

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

What's your thoughts on the process? I looked on XDA developers but it seems like a time-consuming nightmare!! AFAIK I'm on the latest M2000 ROM (radio is old tho), so I've got a few questions for you that having been thru it, you might be able to help:

- should you use your operators image, or go for the latest one from anywhere?

- is just upgrading the radio no hasstle?

- is there much in the way of potential in getting a "special edition" ROM as XDAdev did for the XDA? This was very impressive, all useful apps pre-installed after hard-reset, apps stored in ROM (take up no space)

[Pondrew]

I think they've come up with a new easier method as all I had to do was follow instructions which basically involved just downloading a radio stack 1.10 updater, backing up my data, running it and assuming this method worked (in my case it did but apparently it won't always), hard reset.

That's it!

Here's a link to the latest instructions which were only posted today... radio upgrade

With regards the special edition rom I believe those days are past. They (XDA-developers.com) are more into rom kitchens these days which allow you to 'cook' a rom using your preferred rom versions and software. Dangerous stuff though which could turn your device into a paperweight. I've avoided experimenting with this thus far as I'm happy with T-Mobiles implementation. Just wanted to try the 1.10 upgrade as it sounded (and, in my case as least, proved to be) so easy.

Edited by Pondrew, 28 March 2005 - 11:05 PM.

[Pondrew]

fraser, on Mar 28 2005, 15:55, said:

- should you use your operators image, or go for the latest one from anywhere?

- is just upgrading the radio no hasstle?

<{POST_SNAPBACK}>

The instructions suggest that if the radio stack updater does not work you should then try replacing the radio stack file 'radio_.nbf' in your operators rom update (which you should have extracted to a folder) with the latest 1.10 version.

As I said, in my case I didn't have to do this. I'm also avoiding changing the T-Mobile UK rom or external rom (aside from applying their latest update) as they've not caused me any trouble and I'm trusting what they've included is necessary/balanced. I certainly don't want the O2 stuff I've seen on my mates XDA2s and see no value in trying the M2000 rom given they seem to complain of more bugs/faults (the hard reset following leaving your keyboard out/changing the battery for example).

In my case upgrading the radio was no hassle at all. In fact, I'm finding it strange... it was almost too easy!  :shock:

BUT, I say again 'in my case'. This may not work for everyone and I'm accepting no responsibility for expensive paperweights!  

[fraser]

Thanks for the info. In your first post, you mentioned that you had to hard reset? Did I pick that up right? If so, I'm going to park the idea of updating the radio, and do it all propertly when I need to hard-reset. I've not actually had a hard-reset yet, so I'm due one now that I'm over the whole "new toy, oops broke that bit" stage.

Rom cooking does sound great. One of the things they came up with was a tool that sent text messages if the owner information did not match the preset values. The first thing a thief will do is to change the owner info on the homescreen; so you get their new number and geographic location sent to you!! Brilliant!

I'll probably give it a go in the next couple of weeks!!

Edited by fraser, 29 March 2005 - 02:29 PM.

[Pondrew]

Yeah, a hard reset is part of the procedure so there's no way round that I'm afraid. This was the second hard reset I'd done in a week so didn't bother me (added to which I'd just bought a 1gig 40x sd card so wanted to reinstall everything). First hard reset was necessary to install the new T-Mobile UK rom...

Hadn't heard of that feature, very impressive stuff and definately something to include in my rom should I ever get round to trying my hand at 'cooking'.