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1. Battery life is really poor: 2days at its best! (3days is my record).

2. Battery life doesn't exceed 1 day when I watch a movie or play 1 hour.

3. The following message appears once every 2 days :"The sim cannot be detected or must be replaced".

4. When 20 or maybe 25 programs are installed, the phone may not respond any more. So a HARD RESET is required.

5. The menu is sometimes slow.

6. No possibility to shut an application through it. A task manager is always required. But some will say that the phone will randomly shut the non-used applications to free memory. But It's not always true, I must shut them all to make my phone work properly.

7. They're still expensive.

8. The growing number of viruses.

9. I sometimes can't answer my calls.

10. No update available from Windows Mobile or from the manufacturer.

These are issues I've experienced and may not be representative of all smartphones, but that's a fact: classic cellphones are less buggy. I've never had any problem with my other phones (as far as there were with lithium battery).

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1. Battery life is really poor: 2days at its best! (3days is my record).

2. Battery life doesn't exceed 1 day when I watch a movie or play 1 hour.

3. The following message appears once every 2 days :"The sim cannot be detected or must be replaced".

4. When 20 or maybe 25 programs are installed, the phone may not respond any more. So a HARD RESET is required.

5. The menu is sometimes slow.

6. No possibility to shut an application through it. A task manager is always required. But some will say that the phone will randomly shut the non-used applications to free memory. But It's not always true, I must shut them all to make my phone work properly.

7. They're still expensive.

8. The growing number of viruses.

9. I sometimes can't answer my calls.

10. No update available from Windows Mobile or from the manufacturer.

These are issues I've experienced and may not be representative of all smartphones, but that's a fact: classic cellphones are less buggy. I've never had any problem with my other phones (as far as there were with lithium battery).

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you must be unlucky...the c500 is THE best phone i have ever owned

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Guest chucky.egg

Jeez mate, what phone do you have?

Sounds like a Symbian to me, cos there are no viruses for MS Smartphone... yet.

The C500 (in my experience) answers all of your criticisms. It's not perfect, but TBH it really is as good as people say, so I'm willing to put up with some of the "faults".

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Maybe I forgot to say : I own a MPX200

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It's for the same reasons I ditched the MPX200 in favour of the C500.

(expect the virii - there are no WM virii out that I know of)

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Guest beersoft

the virus problem confuses me

as far as i know there are antivirus programs for smartphone and 0 (zero, none, nada etc..) viri

later

Owen

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Guest Disco Stu

Well the MPx200 is a pretty old phone but still has a lot of fans.

The majority of my friends & acquaintances have Nokias etc and you should hear them moaning. Plenty of members have given up on the Smartphone platform but come back pretty quickly.

As all have said above, C500 owners would refute all of your points, med3d.

As an MPx200 owner I would refute most of them ! :)

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Guest awarner [MVP]
Battery life is really poor: 2days at its best! (3days is my record)
With normal use that's close to normal battery life. It's an old phone now and things are better with the next generation on like the C500. Also see last note about batteries in th post below.

2. Battery life doesn't exceed 1 day when I watch a movie or play 1 hour.

Do you realise how much power it takes to play a movie? even PPC devices do not last much longer after playing a film.

3. The following message appears once every 2 days :"The sim cannot be detected or must be replaced".

Check the SIM retaining tags as they are prone to breakage on the MPX200, a folded piece of paper between the battery and the SIM can fix this.

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Guest awarner [MVP]
4. When 20 or maybe 25 programs are installed, the phone may not respond any more. So a HARD RESET is required.
not quite correct, more than likely what is happening is that you are trying to run too many things at once. After installing applications it's advisable to reboot the phone as it helps to free up physical memory.

5. The menu is sometimes slow.

Again down to physical memory being used.

6. No possibility to shut an application through it. A task manager is always required. But some will say that the phone will randomly shut the non-used applications to free memory. But It's not always true, I must shut them all to make my phone work properly.
Windows powered Smartphones are designed so applications that you have opened (but not used) are supposed to sit in the background and not use cpu time. This is a requirement of MS for signed applications. A task manager can be useful to have though.

7. They're still expensive.

Depends where you are in teh world, they are very cheap in the UK and can be found free on a lot of phone contracts.

8. The growing number of viruses.
there are none on Windows Smartphones but there are on symbian devices.

9. I sometimes can't answer my calls.

What happens? could it be a reception problem?

10. No update available from Windows Mobile or from the manufacturer.
There has not been any real need for updates on the MPX200 but how many "classic cellphones" have updates.

classic cellphones are less buggy.

Guess you have not had many nokias then :) they are renown for having to be recalled for reflashing due to bugs.

I've never had any problem with my other phones (as far as there were with lithium battery).

You can not really compare a basic phone to a Smartphone, they are completely different in terms operating systems etc, you may as well complain that a laptop only lasts a couple of hours but a ppc lasts a week. :D

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but that's a fact: classic cellphones are less buggy. I've never had any problem with my other phones (as far as there were with lithium battery).

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Yep, and classic pocketcalculators are less buggy than an XP machine...

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Guest Pondrew

Not noticed any of your problems although my battery life does tend to be 3days on my Smartphone. I've got an (old?) SPV E200 and still love it to this day!

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Guest commonpersonjustlykeverybody

well med3d, if you are tired of your smartphone, probably your smartphone is tired of you.

you can't just post here that people don't have to buy smartphone coz of your lame excuses. you are in the wrong site dude, i guess you don't want to be challenged by your wm smartphone? :) well wm smartphones are for s.... people. you have to tickle your mind just a bit so you can enjoy using your wm smartphone. it's not a boring device, you are probably bored coz you don't know a thing about it.

if you hate wm smartphone, it's probably bcoz you hate yourself coz you don't know what to do with it co'z you are a dumb a**. :D

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Guest commonpersonjustlykeverybody

Hey MED3D

are you still alive? where are you? oooooh, too bad. think he's not coming back. well you may REST IN PEACE!!! :)

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well med3d, if you are tired of your smartphone, probably your smartphone is tired of you.

you can't just post here that people don't have to buy smartphone coz of your lame excuses. you are in the wrong site dude, i guess you don't want to be challenged by your wm smartphone? :)  well wm smartphones are for s.... people. you have to tickle your mind just a bit so you can enjoy using your wm smartphone. it's not a boring device, you are probably bored coz you don't know a thing about it.

if you hate wm smartphone, it's probably bcoz you hate yourself coz you don't know what to do with it co'z you are a dumb a**. :D

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I'm sorry, but posts like this serve no purpose other than to fan the flames of an argument. Sure, most of us here will disagree with most of what he says. But as Smartphone users, we should be smarter than that. We should respond to his post in a civilised, polite manner and even go so far as to help him fix any problems with his phone, or suggest ways in which he can get more satisfaction from it. Not call him names.

The same goes for the original poster. Don't you realise that submitting a post as you did will result in many people getting aggrevated and replying in a equally lazy way. Sure, voice your concerns/complaints, but you need to put some thought in to it.

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We should respond to his post in a civilised, polite manner and even go so far as to help him fix any problems with his phone

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=D> =D>

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Guest Tunney

Judging all Windows Smartphones based on the MPx200 isn't fair. It's old, it's dated, it's based on an old version of the OS and is, well, a Motorola. :)

Battery life on the newer Smartphones is much better and WM2003SE is generally a lot more stable.

And expensive? A C500 is £140 on pay as you go. That's less than most mid-range non-smartphones, like the Nokia 6230 and Sony Ericsson K700i.

The only point I agree with you is on point 6. Symbian Series 60 has the same "always running" software architecture but still provides a way to switch between and exit programs easily. It's always going to be useful to shut down unneeded applications, even on a modern PC with gigabytes of RAM and even more so on such a limited device. Why Microsoft decided not to implement this is beyond me.

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Guest awarner [MVP]
4. When 20 or maybe 25 programs are installed, the phone may not respond any more. So a HARD RESET is required.

Then again you could always be making the big mistake and installing all your apps to the Phone's Storage when you should be installing them on the Storage card.

Virtually all apps need to be installed to the storage card to save space on the phone, that's what the card is there for :)

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Guest mupwangle

My tuppenceworth - based on the c500 in case you want to upgrade from the moto. ;-)

>>1. Battery life is really poor: 2days at its best! (3days is my record).

The c500 is pretty good. Mind you if you forget to close apps then it switches off in the morning at 6am. ;-)

>>2. Battery life doesn't exceed 1 day when I watch a movie or play 1 hour.

As posted earlier you shouldn't expect more. Very, very few devices (not just phones) can take that sort of drain for long.

>>3. The following message appears once every 2 days :"The sim cannot be detected or must be replaced".

That's a fault with that design. Not fair to judge a phone type by one of several manufacturers. I had exactly the same problem with a Nokia 6210 (as have several people I know)

>>4. When 20 or maybe 25 programs are installed, the phone may not respond any more. So a HARD RESET is required.

Installed programs haven't affected me. Running programs have.

>>5. The menu is sometimes slow.

I agree with that one. Sometimes it is. My brother bought a c500, though, after I sat it next to his Nokia 6600 and tried the same tasks simulataneously on both phones. The Nokia was even slower.

>>6. No possibility to shut an application through it. A task manager is always required. But some will say that the phone will randomly shut the non-used applications to free memory. But It's not always true, I must shut them all to make my phone work properly.

It does annoy me a bit that apps which shouldn't run in the background do so and there isn't a "quit"option. this seems more true of apps that came with the phone.

>>7. They're still expensive.

In the UK they are usually free on contract and can be bought on pay and go for less than £120 brand new.

>>8. The growing number of viruses.

Have you ever actually got one? I'm not sure it counts as growing until the total number written exceeds zero. ;-)

>>9. I sometimes can't answer my calls.

I've never had that on the c500. Sometimes don't want to.... ;-)

>>10. No update available from Windows Mobile or from the manufacturer.

Similar problem, but never mind.

I'll admit, the windows mobile OS and the smartphone hardware is flawed, but no more so than Symbian devices or any other. Even with the bugs I prefer it - especially when comparing it to Motorola's personality phone OS - to any other phone I've used. I think the biggest advantage over others is the enormous degree which you can customise it - from apps to basic operation. Mind you, if it wasn't for places like modaco your average user might get stumped.

I think that's the biggest problem facing smartphones. Your average nokia phone user will be daunted by the culture change. My wife hasn't a clue how to use my phone.

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Guest cold_fire
1. Battery life is really poor: 2days at its best! (3days is my record).

2. Battery life doesn't exceed 1 day when I watch a movie or play 1 hour.

3. The following message appears once every 2 days :"The sim cannot be detected or must be replaced".

4. When 20 or maybe 25 programs are installed, the phone may not respond any more. So a HARD RESET is required.

5. The menu is sometimes slow.

6. No possibility to shut an application through it. A task manager is always required. But some will say that the phone will randomly shut the non-used applications to free memory. But It's not always true, I must shut them all to make my phone work properly.

7. They're still expensive.

8. The growing number of viruses.

9. I sometimes can't answer my calls.

10. No update available from Windows Mobile or from the manufacturer.

These are issues I've experienced and may not be representative of all smartphones, but that's a fact: classic cellphones are less buggy. I've never had any problem with my other phones (as far as there were with lithium battery).

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1. It is quite enough for a huge display that "sucks" power ...

2. But u can watch a movie ? Don't u ? Is there another phone better ?

3. Never had this message in 4 months ,your sim must be defective .

4. Not true ,i have many programs installed but i get no errors .

5. It is one of the windows sacrifices required ...

6. True ,but there are programs that have "exit" option . Use a task manager .

7. But they worth every penny ,for example a Nokia 6230 is ~ 300-325 $ while C500 is only 220 ,and the difference is huge. The 100 $ difference is buying the Nokia brand. I personally hate Nokia ,good phones but to big in price .

8. As they said there is no known virus ,and the OS is protected ,with a hard reset the phone is clean .

9. Never had this thing either .

10. This i agree but hope dies last .

My opinion as this is my 10th phone ,(C500) it is the best phone i owned . I will change it perhaps with C550 . :)

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Guest spudboy

in my experience i have never had to pay for a phone wether it is normal crappy nokia or smartphone, my spv served me well, sits in pride of place gathering dust on my shelf now, my e200 is just about to be replaced by my c550 that i have just ordered, cant get much cheaper than free, the deal i got was:

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i know its only pre ordering but it'll be with me as soon as its released

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Guest zebo4

Man...all of those problems dont apply to me or anybody using a C500 (Audiovox 5600) youre trippin out...what u need to do is get a new phone not a refurbished one before you make comments.

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