Guest extremeluxe Posted July 9, 2005 Report Share Posted July 9, 2005 A Mission Possible I bought my first MS smartphone because I saw a guy in MacDonald using his Nokia controlling the TV set there and pleased his girlfriend. I thought that’s cool! And I believed devices called smartphone must be smarter than those Nokia and undoubtedly competent for the same job. Then I bought my SPV immediately. Just like hundreds of fresh users of the smartphone, after that I went to every forum asking for remote control software on smartphone. Then I was told again and again, for our smart phone, remote control is undoubtedly a Mission Impossible, some said because of the poor little infrared generator, others said due to the nonsupport of CPU. I believed them and almost gave up my hope, until I met a Chinese on net, who enlightened me that maybe all the defects they said of the smartphone hardware are believable, but that doesn’t close the door to the possibility of remote control. Hardware We know some Pocket PC originally can remote electronic appliances like TV, DVD players or air-conditioners. But some PPC can’t, mainly because of the same defects of the smartphone. The Chinese guy I met on net, named “You”, developed a tiny facility called “Infrared Enhancement Set” for the PPC which can’t remote electronic appliances just like our smartphone, or those can remote only in a stupid short distance. He brilliantly overcame the same defects involving the nonsupportive cpu or low powered infrared generator we mentioned above, for details please refer to http://bbs.pdafans.com/viewthread.php?tid=...ghlight=&page=1. Yes, they are in Chinese, but no need to be anxious because his theory is quite simple. The tiny home made “Infrared Enhancement Set” is mere a combination of a signal transformer and a self powered infrared generator, and has only two pure functions: First, transform audio signals into infrared signals; second, enhance these infrared signals enough to remote in a quite long distant (10m, more or less). That’s all. Simply avoided the process of the cpu or original infrared generator of the mobile device and clearly overcome the hardware defects mentioned above of both PPC and smartphone. He is now manufacturing this set alone and selling them to the PPC users on net. And last, the cost of this home made set is incredibly low, the price is accordingly cheap enough. Software As I said, the Chinese guy named ”You” using his set to transform audio signals into infrared signals and then enhance them. But where do the audio signals come from? To answer this, we have to mention a PPC software “Total Remote” ( http://www.griffintechnology.com/software/...otalremote.html ) which allows PPC users to use their PPC like a remoter and control the electronic appliances through the infrared. It can even learn signals from the real remoters so that theoretically it allows a PPC to remote any appliance. But what make this “Total Remote” so special here, is it has an original function that outputs audio signals through the earphone outlet. I don’t know why it has such a unique function. Maybe the developers of this software had the same idea with the Chinese guy, and made the preservation for the future development? Whatever, this audio output makes all we talked above feasible, and indeed, made it done, for PPC so far. Only Step to Take Now we have the “Infrared Enhancement Set” to transform signals into infrared and enhance them, we have a smartphone surely with earphone outlet which can output audio signals, we have a software generates audio signal, what else can handcuff us from remote controls like those Nokiaers do? Talked with the Chinese guy who developed the set via email, he doesn’t see any reason why not. But unfortunately, there is a little obstacle in front us----this software, “Total Remote”, seems only run on PPC. I tried it on my SPV and failed to load it. This is why I bring forth all these to you, to demonstrate there is only one little step to take, then we can enjoy our smartphone as a universal remoter, throw all other remoters away, and remote any electronic appliances anywhere. Clearly enough, this easy little step is we need this soft “Total Remote” ported to the smartphone, especially, with the function of audio output. Compared with all those softwares already ported to the smartphone from the PPC, this job can never be harder, but is definitely much more welcomed and desired, and of cause, more profitable potentially. No matter the developers of “Total Remote” or any other pro. who’s interested in it, let us together make the smartphone evolved. Contact me: [email protected] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chucky.egg Posted July 10, 2005 Report Share Posted July 10, 2005 My friend and I have pet hippos. He can get his hippo into his car, so I should be able to get my one into my car. I'm ignoring the fact that he has a "people carrier", with very wide doors and seats that fold flat. My car is a Nissan Micra. So, all the parts are in place... all I need is a chainsaw and someone who knows how to work it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest confused and hungover Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 seems like a lot of faffing about just to impress a girl in mac donalds. just buy her a bloody cheesburger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mupwangle Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 >> saw a guy in MacDonald using his Nokia controlling the TV set there and pleased his girlfriend He used his phone to control the TV set AND then pleased his girlfriend with it? Eugh! Sorry. ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest confused and hungover Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 thats about all nokias are good for :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Driekus Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) Why don't you buy a universal TV remote control device? They're much cheaper... Edited July 12, 2005 by Driekus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest confused and hungover Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 Why don't you buy a universal TV remote control device? Their much cheaper... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> i think the real question is... can a universal tv remote be used as a smartphone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest extremeluxe Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) Maybe a universal remote for smartphone is not worthy developing for everyone :) And surely, or not so absolutely, the reason I am fond in it is not that can please girls in MacDonald :twisted: The real importance is a lower equipped Nokia can do it, why can’t our smartphone? Think I’m just wishing our smartphone is the best, at least, not worse than a fat Nokia6610. So far, I am satisfied with the almightytiness of my smartphone. I’ve found nearly every software I’m in need of, except two--- first is the universal remote we talked above; second is an efficient filter for incoming calls. I’ve tried Smartfilter and filterOne, both of which share a fatal bug----they only reject the incoming calls after the phone have ringed for one time. That sounds like I was rejecting the call deliberately, well I was, but isn’t a filter developed to make it seems not? :evil: Edited July 11, 2005 by extremeluxe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Mehka Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 We lack good programmers :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest chucky.egg Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 There are apps that many people really seem to want: TV remote (I don't undertsand that one TBH), call recorder, SMS counter, SMS scheduler (my personaly priority)... and many others I find these kinds of topics annoying, because they always imply that the problem is simple and that "the developers" should pull their fingers out. It's been a couple of years and there are no signs of many of these apps being developed by "the developers", which IMO indicates that the issues aren't easy to resolve, and in many cases they are "novelty" apps that don't have much/any long term value. Perhaps we should all learn to develop apps, and work on these things collectively, rather than assuming that somebody else will always do it for us. I'm game for that if anyone else is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dumdidum Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 (edited) Hi Chucky.egg Your personal priority is a SMS Scheduler? Check back tomorrow in the evening here, I have created an SMS Scheduler, it is technically already working on my PocketPC and will also work on a Smartphone, I just have to port it... Hope you will enjoy it! Sven Btw. There aren't any direct APIs to control the Infrared port signals... that and the distance of 30cm max is the real reason why there is non and will never be an TV Remote! Make a Media Center PC and use my Media Center Remote over Bluetooth - with 10 meter support :-) Edited July 11, 2005 by Dumdidum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Dumdidum Posted July 11, 2005 Report Share Posted July 11, 2005 First SMS Scheduler Release in Beta: http://www.modaco.com/index.php?act=ST&f=3&t=222538 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Driekus Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 (edited) Maybe a universal remote for smartphone is not worthy developing for everyone :) And surely, or not so absolutely, the reason I am fond in it is not that can please girls in MacDonald :twisted: The real importance is a lower equipped Nokia can do it, why can’t our smartphone? Think I’m just wishing our smartphone is the best, at least, not worse than a fat Nokia6610. <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Let Nokia have the infrared-thing. Like Nokia, it's a relic from the past... :D PS: I rather like the sms scheduler by that airfagev-guy (vegafria, right). Worked for me, the few times i've used it... Edited July 12, 2005 by Driekus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest MoRFLeZ Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 Let people dream ... those who dream succeed! At least this guy doesn't go: Me want remote ... why I can't have!? Give give give! He's doing his research and offering solutions. While I don't really NEED a remote on my smartphone, I'd still like to have it. If only to "please" my girlfriend at McDonalds!! Back in the day, the scam fingerprint reader was a "wow" factor, todays new smartphone-users need more I guess. Two thumbs up for trying "extremeluxe" - and I hope you and the chinese guy will crack it *wink* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex_le_brit Posted July 12, 2005 Report Share Posted July 12, 2005 How odd, months ago I suggested just the same thing, an audio to IR converter, and everyone poo-pooed it and said it couldn't be done, and here it is, done :) Now I wonder if it'd be possible to dig out the old IR setup at the top of the phone, and install one of these in its place :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest katiea Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 (edited) Palms can do this, is IR stronger on them? It is actually slightly useful when travelling and in hotel rooms/at friends' houses where the remote has been lost/nicked... not exactly going to travel round the world with a universal remote in my bag, now, am I? Anyway, I can already control the TV from my new SPV M2000 - because we have a Tivo and Inspector Gadget aka my husband has hacked it and I just have to link to our wifi, go to the Tivo web page and voila. Edited July 18, 2005 by katiea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Disco Stu Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 Why though, Katie, why ? :?: :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest katiea Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 In answer to Stu's question: firstly for the reason I put in my edit (think before posting!) and secondly so you can have a silly little sofa war, but actually the main use of Tivoweb is for scheduling programs while you are on the train, not as a remote... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest dazultra2000 Posted July 21, 2005 Report Share Posted July 21, 2005 I'm looking for one of these too. I'm getting sick and tired of all these stupid remotes building up on my desk. One for my sound card, one for my TV card, one for my projector, one for my TV, one for my DVD player, and then the phone as well... someone suggested a universal remote, which is all well and good...but it still means I have my phone and my remote. I'd much rather just use the phone. And I know the IR unit isn't very powerful, but in my room everything is at arms length (and before you make a point about me being lazy or suchlike, most of the functions of my remotes are remote-only...no controls on the actual device). I could use my M2000, but it's a cumbersome way of doing things, because it means I have to bring it out of standby, pull out the stylus, enter my lock code, go to start, programs, find the remote software and then load it - all of which I might as well be hunting for the proper remote. Much easier to use the phone which I have sat next to me at all times, click the shortcut on the homescreen and away I go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest kinz Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 i usta hav that remote software for my nokia 7650 with a symbian platform.. but it was a trial and only manage to work for a week.. it was great.. befo i hav my current xphone ii.. i wuz workin in a shoppin mall during school break.. i'm in high school and a lil lame dat time.. so once during lunch break at work.. we rejoins our frens n had break together.. while walkin i saw a 52' plasma tv at a roadshow.. so i asked my frens.. do u think i dare to turn off d tv? so they said.. ahhaa u'r funny.. like u dare so many ppl are there.. so i juz pretended 2 sms face my phone 2 tv.. bout 5 metres away.. in split seconds.. d tv went blank.. haha.. n they were like WOAH.. how d hell u did dat? but dat software only lasted a week.. now with my xphone ii.. lotsa ppl said the remote cant work on d xphone ii.. reason? infrared is not strong enough.. i'm still wonderin.. if d infrared is weak? why cant we control it slightly nearer? sometimes when ur remote runs out of battery u still hav to go nearer.. its not necessary to be 10 metres away from ur tv or hifi set.. so why cant we hav it near? by the way.. how does one develop a smartphone software?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Alex_le_brit Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 i usta hav that remote software for my nokia 7650 with a symbian platform.. but it was a trial and only manage to work for a week.. it was great.. befo i hav my current xphone ii.. i wuz workin in a shoppin mall during school break.. i'm in high school and a lil lame dat time.. so once during lunch break at work.. we rejoins our frens n had break together.. while walkin i saw a 52' plasma tv at a roadshow.. so i asked my frens.. do u think i dare to turn off d tv? so they said.. ahhaa u'r funny.. like u dare so many ppl are there.. so i juz pretended 2 sms face my phone 2 tv.. bout 5 metres away.. in split seconds.. d tv went blank.. haha.. n they were like WOAH.. how d hell u did dat? but dat software only lasted a week.. now with my xphone ii.. lotsa ppl said the remote cant work on d xphone ii.. reason? infrared is not strong enough.. i'm still wonderin.. if d infrared is weak? why cant we control it slightly nearer? sometimes when ur remote runs out of battery u still hav to go nearer.. its not necessary to be 10 metres away from ur tv or hifi set.. so why cant we hav it near? by the way.. how does one develop a smartphone software?? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Or Before I got my current Xphone II, I used to have that remote software for my Nokia 7650 with a Symbian platform but it was a trial and only managed to work for a week; It was great. At the time I was working in a shopping mall during school break; I’m in high school and a little lame; and once during lunch break at work I met up with friends and had break together. While walking I saw a 52' plasma TV at a roadshow, so i asked my friends, “Do you think I’s dare to turn off the TV?” So they said, “Ahhaa you’re funny, like you’d dare when so many people are there.” So I just pretended to sms, and pointed my phone at the TV from about 5 metres away. In split seconds the TV went blank, “Haha” And they were like “Woah! How the hell did you do that?” But that software only lasted a week. Now with my Xphone II. Lots of people have said the remote can’t work on the Xphone II; the reason; the infrared is not strong enough. I’m still wondering, if the infrared is weak why cant we control it slightly nearer? Sometimes when your remote runs out of battery you still have to go nearer, it’s not necessary to be 10 metres away from your TV or Hifi set, so why cant we have it near? By the way. how does one develop Smartphone software? And to answer, the infrared sender is so weak, that you'd have to be mere inches away for it to work, and that would be assuming you could write some form of software to control the sender unit which is currently used for IrDA protocols. Oh, and sorry I'm not usually a pedant for correct spelling and grammar, but I had a bad moring teaching a load of annoying French teenagers how to send a half decent e-mail in English, and you took the brunt. I'm hoping you'll look and say "Hey, what a nice guy, he gave me some corrections" and not "Who's this boring twat think he is correcting my spelling." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hp324 Posted July 22, 2005 Report Share Posted July 22, 2005 Or Before I got my current Xphone II, I used to have that remote software for my Nokia 7650 with a Symbian platform but it was a trial and only managed to work for a week; It was great. At the time I was working in a shopping mall during school break; I’m in high school and a little lame; and once during lunch break at work I met up with friends and had break together. While walking I saw a 52' plasma TV at a roadshow, so i asked my friends, “Do you think I’s dare to turn off the TV?” So they said, “Ahhaa you’re funny, like you’d dare when so many people are there.” So I just pretended to sms, and pointed my phone at the TV from about 5 metres away. In split seconds the TV went blank, “Haha” And they were like “Woah! How the hell did you do that?” But that software only lasted a week. Now with my Xphone II. Lots of people have said the remote can’t work on the Xphone II; the reason; the infrared is not strong enough. I’m still wondering, if the infrared is weak why cant we control it slightly nearer? Sometimes when your remote runs out of battery you still have to go nearer, it’s not necessary to be 10 metres away from your TV or Hifi set, so why cant we have it near? By the way. how does one develop Smartphone software? And to answer, the infrared sender is so weak, that you'd have to be mere inches away for it to work, and that would be assuming you could write some form of software to control the sender unit which is currently used for IrDA protocols. Oh, and sorry I'm not usually a pedant for correct spelling and grammar, but I had a bad moring teaching a load of annoying French teenagers how to send a half decent e-mail in English, and you took the brunt. I'm hoping you'll look and say "Hey, what a nice guy, he gave me some corrections" and not "Who's this boring twat think he is correcting my spelling." <{POST_SNAPBACK}> OR Before I got my current Xphone II, I used to have that remote software for my Nokia 7650 with a Symbian platform but it was a trial and only managed to work for a week; it was great. Lowercase after a semicolon:). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Laser_iCE Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 OR We could not be grammar/spelling nazi's, although that was a shocking effort the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest ad241 Posted July 23, 2005 Report Share Posted July 23, 2005 I dnt see y these guys bashin their heads ova some spellin! he did get the message through didnt he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hp324 Posted July 25, 2005 Report Share Posted July 25, 2005 I dnt see y these guys bashin their heads ova some spellin! he did get the message through didnt he? <{POST_SNAPBACK}> I completely agree that spelling and grammar should not be corrected on a message board. My point was that if you are going to make corrections they should at least be correct. To be fair, Alex did apologize in advance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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