Guest Eran Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 One of the major drawbacks of Microsoft's latest OS was the decision to leave out Activesync WIFI support as a security precaution (synchronization data is not encrypted). Thanks to Jaap Van Ekris, a Microsoft MVP based in Holland, there is now a secure and effective way to synchronize your WM5 device with Activesync using WIFI technology! Follow the instructions carefully, and please note this has not been tested on a Smartphone so your feedback would definitely be appreciated on the matter. Desktop PC settings (Control Panel): 1. Enter Network Connections 2. Create a new connection 3. Select 'Set up an advanced connection', click next 4. Select 'Accept incoming connections', click next 5. Click next on 'connection devices' screen 6. Check 'Allow incoming VPN connections', click next 7. Select all users which will be using this account PPC settings: 1. Go to Settings/Connections/Connections 2. Select 'ADD A NEW VPN SERVER CONNECTION' 3. Enter the IP Address of your PC or its network name, select IPSec/L2TP and click next 4. Choose 'A pre-shared key' and enter some number combination (ex: 123456) 5. Enter user and password of desktop computer. 6. You're finished, enjoy! Note: in case you have a firewall installed on the computer, you will need to change Activesync rules in firewall settings to allow connections to all IP addresses to default 169.254.2.2 address. Pay attention that your PPC is setup as MY ISP/Work in CONNECTION settings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest deagle67 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I configured correctly the pc and the phone, but how to sync now ? does it work thru a wifi router or do we have to sync directly with a pc in ad-hoc mode ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadamehr Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Insufficient information... No use. Done all that, and as per the other person asking, I'm the same... "What next" What do I actually do to connect and sync, once I do all this. The fact that it seems it can be done, is great news. But not to be ungrateful, but the curtailed, or conscise instructions, leave us sold short...? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Samsonite Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 One of the major drawbacks of Microsoft's latest OS was the decision to leave out Activesync WIFI support as a security precaution (synchronization data is not encrypted). <{POST_SNAPBACK}> encryption is a radio setting, not a network setting. If the radio is sending the packet, it wouldnt know that it was sync data or otherwise... it would still WEP or WPA or WPA2 it prior to transmission.. there you go shadamehr... another girly swot answer!!! ;) you watch, i bet i've missed the point again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadamehr Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 encryption is a radio setting, not a network setting. If the radio is sending the packet, it wouldnt know that it was sync data or otherwise... it would still WEP or WPA or WPA2 it prior to transmission.. there you go shadamehr... another girly swot answer!!! ;) you watch, i bet i've missed the point again... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> If you haven't then I have *lol* Cos that meant nothing to me. Not the explanation of encryption... but what it meant in relation to this *lol* Put it like this, I'm not a jot further forward than I was before hee hee... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Samsonite Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 If you haven't then I have *lol* Cos that meant nothing to me. Not the explanation of encryption... but what it meant in relation to this *lol* Put it like this, I'm not a jot further forward than I was before hee hee... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> oh yeah... see what you mean.. i'm not really much help here am i... ;) i just thought that that the reason you cant Activestink over WiFi due to a security issue doesnt make any sense... I can appreciate a functionality reason but not encryption - so the initial premise of the first post is a misnomer!! again not much use to solving the problem... just think of me as the nut in the corner shouting random facts... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest StarfireCT Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 I've got a T-Mo [uSA] SDA. I have no idea what all of these settings are supposed to do for the AC dialog: are you supposed to add a new Server Source or something? There's also some settings missing on the VPN dialog as well... like connections from/to. I dunno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadamehr Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 oh yeah... see what you mean.. i'm not really much help here am i... ;) i just thought that that the reason you cant Activestink over WiFi due to a security issue doesnt make any sense... I can appreciate a functionality reason but not encryption - so the initial premise of the first post is a misnomer!! again not much use to solving the problem... just think of me as the nut in the corner shouting random facts... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> Listen, if nothing else, your entertaining And at Starfire - the setup procedure for a VPN is very different for a SmartPhone as for a PPC. But don't worry - even on a PPC, once set up, we are left wondering "so now what do we do" anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest carphead Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Now I haven't tried this but I think the final instruction should be kick off a vpn connection between ppc and pc. The logic being when activesync spots a connect in the 169.x.x.x range it will try and create a connection to it. With no dhcp server on either network connection both vpn connections will us this range. I'll try it later on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest sx125 Posted March 10, 2006 Report Share Posted March 10, 2006 Just tried it with my SP5. I get in Activesync Exchange server added, also on my SP5. A.S. on my phone is trying to connect, but my A.S. on the PC isn't doing anything. On the SP5 there is a message : Looking for changes. so mayby it'll work :?: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Metoo Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) encryption is a radio setting, not a network setting. If the radio is sending the packet, it wouldnt know that it was sync data or otherwise... it would still WEP or WPA or WPA2 it prior to transmission.. there you go shadamehr... another girly swot answer!!! ;) you watch, i bet i've missed the point again... <{POST_SNAPBACK}> AS4's move to being a network device was so that corporate network managers could regain control over who connected to their networks by using standard firewall policies. Up to then any Tom, Dick or Harry could plug their unapproved PocketPC onto their desktop PC and transfer God knows what onto the company's PC, mail server and network drives. The other gaping security hole was someone using a Wifi adapter. Don't forget that most WLAN adapters come with encryption disabled by default. It's frightening how many users just plug in and go without even thinking about security. Even if they did bother to set up WEP, its protection is woefully weak. So anyone in range has an easy way in to your corporate data and network. It's unfortunate for home users that these changes for the Enterprise market get in the way, but if the restrictions were easy to circumvent, there'd be no point having them in the first place! Edited March 11, 2006 by Metoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest anthonyblack Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 How/where do you enter the pre-shared key on the PC???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadamehr Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 I can see from the users follow up comments on here, that no one is any further forward, and it still sounds as if NO oNE has managed this... Proper instructions please anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roma0803 Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 ... or the source where this info is found so we might read for ourselves and maybe the follow-up at that site or blog. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Tech Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 I still doubt this is possible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest furby Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 Thought I would do a bit more digging. Jaap Van Ekris's site I think is pocketinfo.nl. So I went to the forum. It is all in Dutch so can't really find the right thing, but this topic seems quite close http://forum.pocketinfo.nl/showthread.php?t=64251 There was one more line that wasn't posted here, but agian in Dutch so I don't know Connected now through firstly your WLAN to activate, and then the VPN connection (via manage connections). Does this help? If someone can read Dutch maybe they can get the finer detail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roma0803 Posted March 11, 2006 Report Share Posted March 11, 2006 (edited) Hmm... do not have the time to read through that thread right now but as far as I could see they succeeded in connecting but also ask how to continue to sync. But that is just a conclusion after 2 minutes reading through it. Tomorrow I can check it out in detail (if no other Dutchy did before and reported here). They also link to this site about an open source project for synchronisation over WiFi. Edited March 12, 2006 by roma0803 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest roma0803 Posted March 12, 2006 Report Share Posted March 12, 2006 Yep, after reading through the thread it stops at the point where one wants to sync. After setting up the VPN, that is the question that remains... how? Tried this with my Tornado WM5 Smartphone but the VPN settings are different from PPC so I can't even connect through VPN. If anyone could shed some light here would it be welcomed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Paul [MVP] Posted March 14, 2006 Report Share Posted March 14, 2006 AAAAARGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHH! Just spent an age trying to get this working, i've tried everything I think (got the VPN up, set the IPs to 169.254.2.1/2 and everything), but no dice ;) P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest looeee Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 I'm sure that you can make a vpn connection between your phone and pc in this way but it won't help you to ActiveSync If you go to ActiveSync's help file and open the first page, "Welcome to ActiveSync", it says at the top that you cannot synchronize remotely to a PC using a network connection looeee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pondrew Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 Topic moved and title edited. Shame really... ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest shadamehr Posted March 15, 2006 Report Share Posted March 15, 2006 01/04/2006 came early with this one methinks.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest fraser Posted March 20, 2006 Report Share Posted March 20, 2006 I'll maybe give this a blast later. The WiFi thing is the one thing keeping me off AS4. I'll sacrifice a laptop rather than hose a working AS3.8 setup! Can the phone partner with a AS3.8 and AS4 server at the same time, or will I lose all existing partnerships doing this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lspatricio Posted July 8, 2006 Report Share Posted July 8, 2006 (edited) last post in this topic was dated 20 Mar 2006. Hope this topic hasn't "died" as many topics do. i really like to be able to sync my WM5 PPC via wifi. anybody had any luck doing this? Edited July 8, 2006 by lspatricio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Wam7 Posted May 9, 2007 Report Share Posted May 9, 2007 I'm sure that you can make a vpn connection between your phone and pc in this way but it won't help you to ActiveSync If you go to ActiveSync's help file and open the first page, "Welcome to ActiveSync", it says at the top that looeee So whatever happened to this.... still not possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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