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Would you be interested in a MoDaCo Developer Tutorial?

  1. Yes! (157 votes [96.91%])

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  2. No! (0 votes [0.00%])

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  3. Maybe... (5 votes [3.09%])

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Definitely up for this. I've just been moved away from *nix and 3rd party apps into the web development team and mobile apps are on the list which means I get to play with all the new gadgets yeeee ha.

Ok, at some point I'd like an app to let me link to a server and then access other databases from there. And another server app which can link to the PPC/phone and wipe of all info if it ever get's stolen (like that ever happens :))

Like some others here, C# is what I'm being trained in but happy to use VB too

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Last programming i did was spectrum basic so can I still play?
But seriously learning something new sounds like fun.

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id be up to that paul, great idea.
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There's always one... :)

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Make that three, Sir. VB is not up to scratch I feel.

Plus with php, perl etc all being pretty much based on C, it seems a bit pointless trying to convert web app developers (of whom there are many) to VB (which is $%^&).

My $0.02...

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Make that three, Sir. VB is not up to scratch I feel.

You're welcome to express your opinion, but you really should justify it.

Remember, in .net all languages are created equal, and as I can code in VB.net, C#, PHP etc. etc. I think I'm in a good enough position to express my opinion (which I will justify).

VB.net is IMHO the best language for complete beginners, with it's 'english like' syntax, and very good readability.

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Great idea Paul, count me in

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VB.net is IMHO the best language for complete beginners, with it's 'english like' syntax, and very good readability.

I totally agree, to all the anti-VBers I can totally understand where you're coming from but considering this is a beginner tutorial I would say VB is the way to go - it's easier for people without programming experience to pick up and even easier for everyone who does have some experience whether used to C style languages or not. It is still imho still the easiest .net to use for simple applications and if people want to migrate to using C# or whatever after that's fine but I think VB would be better to get people into programming and using VS.net for the first time.

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Edited by Jamma14, 21 July 2006 - 08:24 PM.

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Okay 113 Yes's.
When do we start?

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make that 114 :) I know a little coding in .NET so that would be my platform of choice, not bothered about the language but for the greatest accessibility I would suggest VB.NET...

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I'm going to do the sensible thing and rustle up the app and the first few days of posts, then we'll get cracking.

It'll probably be the second week of August!

Still not 100% sure on what exactly the app will do!

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Still not 100% sure on what exactly the app will do!

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Skin extra screens ;)

Another app I'd like is to pause a video and then resume video-ing. Or an app that will string two or more videos together with some simple transition effects or something, like on the W810i

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Here are some easy app ideas:
1) Tip Calculator
2) Battery/Signal Line (like the one from SPB PocketPlus at the top of the screen)
3) Simple Alarm App
4) Simple Stopwatch
5) Messaging menu add-in to erase all mails in a current folder or to empty the trash from anywhere
6) An app that will send data to an XML file that can be pushed to a webserver. (Mood, Manually entered location, any data)
7) An app that will show all open processes with the option to end them

Anything like these? Simplier? More Difficult?

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Speaking of #6, it would be cool to create an app that interacts with Modaco directly. Data can be sent from the phone to Modaco where it is appended to your profile. Data could be shown under the avatar or within your signature.

My Mood. (Angry, Bitter, Disgruntled, Sad, Depressed, oh and I guess Happy too!)
My Current Location. (Home, Work, The Beach, Skiing, Mount Laurel, NJ, etc)

Or maybe some other way to directly interact with Modaco. Photo Gallery/Blog Entries, etc.

My point is, this may be a good opportunity to tie an interface that interacts from Modaco directly to the Smartphone. It is a Modaco training session...may as well make it work for Modaco.

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All good suggestions Nick, could easily add a Mood: field like the Device: field, and have it updated from an app we write :)

1 feels quite appealing...

Of course, we can start with one app, and if people are liking the tutorials, just keep doing more ;)

P (/me is making work for himself methinks, lol!)

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The Tip Convertor could work well, first a simple app that displays 10% of an inputted number, then add a drop down of countries with the percentages stored away, then maybe a currency convertor etc. etc.

Thoughts?

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Come to think of it...anything that interacts with Modaco may not be the best idea security-wise for Modaco. You'd probably need to add DB log-in information to the app so the data could be added/changed. Unless you did this on the server side. If that's the case, we'd be adding more work on your side, then people wouldn't get the feel of writing the app from beginning to end as there would be a part they wouln't see. But that's would be PBP/MySQLDB anyway which is out of the scope of this anyway.

Also....10% ??!!
15-20% here unless you want a dirty look and spit in your food next time you visit! :)

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If Tip Calculator....

A= Bill Amount:
B= Percentage of Tip:
C= Amount of Tip: (AxB)
D= Total Bill: (A+C)
E= Number of People:
F= Price Each: (D/E)

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Come to think of it...anything that interacts with Modaco may not be the best idea security-wise for Modaco. You'd probably need to add DB log-in information to the app so the data could be added/changed. Unless you did this on the server side. If that's the case, we'd be adding more work on your side, then people wouldn't get the feel of writing the app from beginning to end as there would be a part they wouln't see. But that's would be PBP/MySQLDB anyway which is out of the scope of this anyway.


maybe you could give them the "server side" code without the DB info so they would see that part, and could use it on there own sites to see it working fully(not linking to modaco's DB)

Also....10% ??!!
15-20% here unless you want a dirty look and spit in your food next time you visit! :)


why pay any % for that, just go to McDonald's and they will throw all that in for free on every visit lol ;)

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Surely MS have these already on their site? If they do then why bother reinventing the wheel - just link to them.


I received my July Windows Mobile News email today, and one of the items is:

Rory Does Windows Mobile Development

Rory Blyth, an MSDN Events Presenter, plans to give a series of screencasts on the subject of Windows Mobile Development. In his own words: "I've decided, humble as I am, to try and create the greatest series of screencasts in the entire universe on the subject of Windows Mobile development. I'll probably fail, but that's no big deal. It's just a goal. In this first screencast, I walk you through the creation of a very simple Windows Mobile application, while pointing out some things you Need To Know along the way. Future screencasts in this series will be deeper technical dives, but you gotta start somewhere, eh?


I am SURE that anything M$ do, Paul can do better!!

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