Two Dash Dissapointments

[Guest Rob Q]

It is a very nice phone (small and handy). This may be more of an issue with MS smartphone software but that just semantics to the non-experienced smartphone user (me) -

First, my Biggest Problem is that it appears that the fastest setting to check for new email is 15 minutes. When creating a new POP/Imap with the MY Email accts (Messaging > Menu (selecting the email acct)> Settings) the fastest option to check for new email is 15 minutes. I can't imagine this is the fastest setting to have it check email? I realize I can manually check for email send/receive through the menu but this is not optimal.

Second, the other problem I have is that I don't have MS outlook on my computer so activesync gave me an alert Message when I installed activesync that I needed to configure outlook to be the default Email Client. I use thunderbird (Mozilla) and don't have Outlook. Upshot is that I can't use activesync - it tries to sync and then just hangs there tyring to do its thing. I have ctrl+alt+delete to close out activesync.

I tried looking for an earlier activesync download that does not require outlook for syncing but did not find one. I also looked at just purchasing Outlook but for 70-100 bucks I just don't like doing that.

I do like the phone overall but I have reservations about it due to the two issues mentioned. Anything I can do to change these two things.

As an aside, can I set the Dash up to check GMAIL email accts? Thanks all.

Rob

Edited October 28, 2006 by Rob Q

[Guest smeg36]

Outlook should be on the cd that came with the phone. Yes, you can setup a Gmail account, you just have to enable POP access in your Gmail settings, then set it up on your device.

[Guest justinstafford]

hey this will fix both your probems and allow you to use the direct push for all your pim data.(email,contacts,calander,tasks)

1. good job on the gmail...goto settings and enable pop3 access

make sure you use ssl and these port numbers pop.gmail.com=465 and smtp.gmail.com=995(u wontneed it though)

2. go to www.mail2web and get a free exchange account.

3. go back to gmail and settings. forward all mail to [email protected] also you can export your contacts and import through the outlookwebaccess you now have with some mail2web.

4. go on your device and open activesync. go to settings config server.

server=mobile.exchange.mail2web.com

[email protected] pw:***

domain=ad2

that is it you will now be automatically syncing all your infonot just mail, and it will be pushed to your device in real time .also if you get a newphone or have to reset your phone just put in activesync info and everything downloaded to device in undera minute.

5. misc apps u might like. www.gmail.com/app great little more java app to search and everything check gmail.

wap.gcalsync.com sync your gmail calender,with phone which then sync with your exchange so you can keepmultiple adresses synced.

www.google.com/gmm awesome map app

java app is your friend.

alright I am out:

[Guest [email protected]]

Mine is a small office, so we do not use an Exchange server. Ours is a POP3 email account. We also use MSOutlook 2003 on our desktop machines. These are set to retrieve email from the server every minute and delete them from the server when they are in Outlook. When I got the phone, I set it to leave messages on the server for 7 days, so the phone could retrieve them. This is all fine, except that this doubles the emails - a copy on the phone and a copy on my desktop). This becomes a problem when I am out of the office for a few days and sort through a few hundred emails and delete the ones I am through with on the phone. Then, when I get back in the office, I have to resort the damn things and delete the ones from my desktop Outlook. A real time waster.

Will the setup you described work?

Will my sent/repy to emails come from my POP3 email address or will it be to the other one?

[Guest chaznet]

It's all part of the joy of working with POP3. The setup he describes will create a lot of busy work for you, and confusion. Your mail will come from the other address, though you can set the 'reply to' address to your other one. Eventually, you'll have some people who somehow got the address you don't use, but they'll use it anyway. Someday down the road you'll have an address change to throw into the brew...

You should switch away from POP3 to hosted exchange. He pointed you towards a free one, but you have to use their domain as your email address. If you need to use your own domain name, a reasonably priced alternative is at http://4smartphone.net -- the cost is well worth the cumulative time you'll gain from not maintaining all those different versions of your inbox. In addition to that, you'll have folders that sync to your phone and desktop along with calendar and contacts. Sign up for a trial and take a peek -- you'll be hooked :)

Mine is a small office, so we do not use an Exchange server. Ours is a POP3 email account. We also use MSOutlook 2003 on our desktop machines. These are set to retrieve email from the server every minute and delete them from the server when they are in Outlook. When I got the phone, I set it to leave messages on the server for 7 days, so the phone could retrieve them. This is all fine, except that this doubles the emails - a copy on the phone and a copy on my desktop). This becomes a problem when I am out of the office for a few days and sort through a few hundred emails and delete the ones I am through with on the phone. Then, when I get back in the office, I have to resort the damn things and delete the ones from my desktop Outlook. A real time waster.

Will the setup you described work?

Will my sent/repy to emails come from my POP3 email address or will it be to the other one?

[Guest justinstafford]

It's all part of the joy of working with POP3. The setup he describes will create a lot of busy work for you, and confusion. Your mail will come from the other address, though you can set the 'reply to' address to your other one. Eventually, you'll have some people who somehow got the address you don't use, but they'll use it anyway. Someday down the road you'll have an address change to throw into the brew...

You should switch away from POP3 to hosted exchange. He pointed you towards a free one, but you have to use their domain as your email address. If you need to use your own domain name, a reasonably priced alternative is at http://4smartphone.net -- the cost is well worth the cumulative time you'll gain from not maintaining all those different versions of your inbox. In addition to that, you'll have folders that sync to your phone and desktop along with calendar and contacts. Sign up for a trial and take a peek -- you'll be hooked :)

first off using my methodt take all of 5minutes to setup. and the only problem is the sent to. which for a business user could pose problem. if it is a small biz I Am guessing they are not getting going to switch to exchange to appease your e mail annoyance. if you are tech savvy, your IT department could look into setting up a funambol server. it is a opensource solution based on syncML. it would allow you to use existing pop setup and runs on any platform mac, windows, linux,blackberry, palm, pocket PC. with that said you might not be running the pop server in house. Another solid option is to get google domain. just search google domain. it is free from google, not very maIn stream,but is free gmail for your entire organization,and it under your domain. with gmail in pop access you can have gmail archive a copy when pulled from pop. thus never duplicating. plus you would allow get shared and syncable calenders, docs and spreadsheets for team projects, google desktop ontop of that would to index all of that this to index everything. aswell very soon openOffice (free office alt) which is all java based and far superior and fully comaptible with MS Office with be syncing and saving directly with google docs and spreadsheets. you guys could doit with pop3 to index if you had the best java programmers in the world on staff. did I mention theses solutions are free. not sure where you had are at in your organization,but not having to purchase those office license keysfor office 2007,and free exchange solution, or free pop on steroids from google(3 gigs per user to start) could make you very popular. in addition no it support cost and if outlook goes down. you have awesome web interface, superior to bloated outlook Web Access nterface.

to answer original question just get flexmail 2007 for smartphone. it willallow to set your outgoing to whatever smtp to whatever you please,and can access activesync. here is a link to web is.net,backend download server. it is in beta but works great. so scroll to beta and ftf section. it will have SP in file name.

http://download.pocketinformant.com

[Guest chaznet]

:) Wow... that was a confusing message

...first off using my methodt take all of 5minutes to setup. and the only problem is the sent to. which for a business user could pose problem. if it is a small biz I Am guessing they are not getting going to switch to exchange to appease your e mail annoyance. if you are tech savvy, your IT department could look into setting up a funambol server. it is a opensource solution based on syncML....

Edited November 14, 2006 by chaznet

[Guest xerxes]

Mine is a small office, so we do not use an Exchange server. Ours is a POP3 email account. We also use MSOutlook 2003 on our desktop machines. These are set to retrieve email from the server every minute and delete them from the server when they are in Outlook. When I got the phone, I set it to leave messages on the server for 7 days, so the phone could retrieve them. This is all fine, except that this doubles the emails - a copy on the phone and a copy on my desktop). This becomes a problem when I am out of the office for a few days and sort through a few hundred emails and delete the ones I am through with on the phone. Then, when I get back in the office, I have to resort the damn things and delete the ones from my desktop Outlook. A real time waster.

Will the setup you described work?

Will my sent/repy to emails come from my POP3 email address or will it be to the other one?

Mail2web has an option (costs approx $2 per month) that allows you to use any FROM address you want, as long as its really your email address of course. You just need to sign up for their Personal option and then set the email proxy (not sure if that's the exact name but it's definitely a proxy of some sort).