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Started by andynumpty , Jul 04 2006 11:48 AM

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 11:48 AM

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Hi, just woundering if any wnw people are using MSN on there PPC,s with out any probs.
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Posted 04 July 2006 - 11:56 AM

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View Postandynumpty, on Jul 4 2006, 12:48, said:

Hi, just woundering if any wnw people are using MSN on there PPC,s with out any probs.
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Yes, but there is some debate as to wether it is allowed on W'n'W

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 12:32 PM

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 03:47 PM

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yes...thats why i'm asking........T-mobile says you can't use IM on wnw......but how do they know through the gprs/3g network that u are using it.

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Posted 04 July 2006 - 04:18 PM

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T say you can't use MoIP on W'n'W - MoIP is not, I believe, the same as IM.

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Posted 16 July 2006 - 10:42 AM

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View Postconfucious, on Jul 4 2006, 16:18, said:

T say you can't use MoIP on W'n'W - MoIP is not, I believe, the same as IM.

No, they have been asked, repeatedly, if MSN is banned on WnW and the answer is Yes.

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Posted 16 July 2006 - 12:59 PM

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View Postmarkukcouk, on Jul 16 2006, 10:42, said:

No, they have been asked, repeatedly, if MSN is banned on WnW and the answer is Yes.
If they want to ban MSN then why allow access to it on the phone? The original ROM that came on my MDA PRO didn't have MSN installed but the last two ROMs have had it, and the latest ROM was released well after the terms and conditions for Web'n'Walk were posted. You would think that if they didn't want people to use it that it would have been removed again. Incidentally, its only Web'n'Walk Pro that has the bit about MoIP not being allowed, the consumer version doesn't mention it. I suspect that when t-mobile customer services are saying that MSN messenger is not allowed it not because of any offical stance, more that they are looking at the terms and conditions and interpreting MSN messenger as MoIP.

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 03:03 PM

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View Postshuflie, on Jul 16 2006, 12:59, said:

If they want to ban MSN then why allow access to it on the phone? The original ROM that came on my MDA PRO didn't have MSN installed but the last two ROMs have had it, and the latest ROM was released well after the terms and conditions for Web'n'Walk were posted. You would think that if they didn't want people to use it that it would have been removed again. Incidentally, its only Web'n'Walk Pro that has the bit about MoIP not being allowed, the consumer version doesn't mention it. I suspect that when t-mobile customer services are saying that MSN messenger is not allowed it not because of any offical stance, more that they are looking at the terms and conditions and interpreting MSN messenger as MoIP.

Ring them and ask then.  I've rung numerous times (To try and get a VII launch date) and asked each time.

Sometimes they say no, somethings they query a supervisor, or pass you to data dept, who also say no.

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 03:26 PM

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But if you don't ask them there is nothing to stop you using it. I am still of the opinion they don't know what they are talking about so are just covering their arse back...

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 06:23 PM

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View Postconfucious, on Jul 18 2006, 16:26, said:

But if you don't ask them there is nothing to stop you using it. I am still of the opinion they don't know what they are talking about so are just covering their arse back...

Sorry - how does that work?

Just because you have not ASKED if something is allowed does not mean it IS allowed.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" - if I remember correctly.

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Posted 18 July 2006 - 08:01 PM

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View Postmwright, on Jul 18 2006, 18:23, said:

Sorry - how does that work?

Just because you have not ASKED if something is allowed does not mean it IS allowed.

"Ignorance of the law is no excuse" - if I remember correctly.

Yes, but if you don't ask, there is no reason for you to think that it is not allowed, as there is NO mention of it in the terms and conditions (unless you are on PRO).

I think the law will agree that if it is not mentioned in the terms and conditions, then it doesn't matter what a customer services rep 'believes' to be the case

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if it is than thats pathetic - MSN doesn even use much data and besides, what would the point on W'nW be?

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View PostTech, on Jul 18 2006, 23:30, said:

if it is than thats pathetic - MSN doesn even use much data and besides, what would the point on W'nW be?

Ultimately I think the way to approach it is to use it until they formally warn you that you aren't allowed to, much in the same way they will warn you if you use more than the cap each month.

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Posted 19 July 2006 - 09:57 PM

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If they were that worried they should/could/would block MSN at their gateway.

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Posted 24 July 2006 - 10:54 AM

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View Postzarquon, on Jul 19 2006, 21:57, said:

If they were that worried they should/could/would block MSN at their gateway.
And not supply it on the phones!

I think they ban IM programs and VoIP programs as that would reduce their income from SMS and voice calls.

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