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Paul Reviews.... the HTC TyTN II (Kaiser)

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- Bluetooth 2.0 EDR



Hello,

Can you comment on the quality of the bluetooth? Initially many people thought the BT was fine on the PPC6800 because callers sounded fine to them on their snazzy new phone. Eventually they got enough complaints that people realized they sounded horrible to the people they were calling from their 6800. Turns out even though if you own a 6800 and call on your BT headset your callers sound fine but randomly you will sound like crap to the people you are speaking with.

This hasn't been reported with the WM5 version of the 6800 on Telus just those who got the WM6 version on Sprint. I'm not sure if it is the BT stack from MS that is the culprit or where the issue lies. And since it doesn't happen on every call, it is hard to diagnose. It seems to be more common with longer calls. The phone speaker is OK - it happens with Bluetooth only. I've personally tried 3 different types of BT headsets - about 10 others have been listed with this same issue.

We have it on the HTC WIKI though - http://www.htcwiki.com/page/HTC+Mogul


So if you've spent more than a few hours using the BT headset with this phone and have checked with your callers we'll see if this is common with WM6 or if it is a unique thing to our HTC mogul phones.


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Pauls getting some 'air time' on Engadget with this review :

http://www.engadget....aiser-reviewed/

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Better than the people over at CoolSmartPhone who are proudly announcing that they will have the first review of the Kaiser online next week.

Nice try chaps.

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Oops. Read more closely this time :)

Great review! I can't wait for this beast!

Edited by huskyfan23`, 01 July 2007 - 09:55 PM.

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Woohoo !! What a kick ass phone !! Any ideas on price with T-mob Flext & WnW ??

Gotta say though ..... why the funk didn't they put an FM Radio in there and Camera Flash and Zoom (even though it doesn't seem to need it !)

Apart from the above and VGA and making it smaller/lighter ..... what will HTC bring out in 18 months that does more than the Kaiser ??

PS - When will 8Gb MicroSD become available ??

Edited by Perfectionist, 01 July 2007 - 10:41 PM.

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Perfect Device = Samsung M8920 with WinMo7 plus FM & TV Tuners !!


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Woohoo !! What a kick ass phone !! Any ideas on price with T-mob Flext & WnW ??

Well if these people are right the Kaiser is going to be £70 more than the TYTN. Whether that translates into an extra £70 when it reaches the networks I'm not sure but the Advantage is £220 more than the TYTN sim free and T-Mobile have the Ameo as £210 more than the Vario II so £70 seems a reasonable guess at the premium. This all assumes that devicewire have the right price of course!

PS - When will 8Gb MicroSD become available ??

Soon™ according to El Reg

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Hello. New member here. Quick question. If this does end up with T-Mobile does it have the hardware abilities to be UMA and work with the newly released HotSpot@Home?

Thanks

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I've heard nothing re: T-Mo USA taking it.

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I've heard nothing re: T-Mo USA taking it.

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I've been keeping an eye on them in case they do. I would be nice. I really wish AT&T would pick it up.

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Wow, those camera shots are amazing! I can only hope VZW releases a phone with a similar quality camera. Or maybe AT&T will pick it up and I'll just switch to them! :)

Great review :P

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http://www.modaco.co...ic=256548&st=47

I would think it's definitely compatible seeing as the latest versions of WM6 on the Hermes are SDHC compatible.


Hi,

You just mention that there is a latest version of WM6 for the Hermes?, is it official?? Where can we download this version for the Hermes Platform?

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I'm kind of confused. Is this the same as the Apache for verizon? Will the Kaiser be released for Verizon in the states?

Edited by bugmenot2, 02 July 2007 - 05:06 AM.

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Hey Paul, when you mentioned AT&T and T-Mobile, you meant the American carriers, right? It's funny to hear you talk about them in regards to this phone -- didn't the FCC just place a ban on all Qualcomm chips recently? If I'm not mistaken this includes the chip found in the Kaiser...

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-- didn't the FCC just place a ban on all Qualcomm chips recently? If I'm not mistaken this includes the chip found in the Kaiser...

why??
the 8525 has a qualcomm chip but it isnt banned in the US. if you look in the settings though it says samsung.

EDIT: hmm, read this.
http://www.pcworld.c...,1/article.html
i guess that explains everything. however, the kaiser is almost ready to be released in the market. so if this does happen, we wont have to worry about the qualcomm chip being taken out of the kaiser, it would be taken out of phones after the kaiser, sometime in the future.

Edited by mikeeey, 02 July 2007 - 09:11 AM.

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Hi,

You just mention that there is a latest version of WM6 for the Hermes?, is it official?? Where can we download this version for the Hermes Platform?

Cheers,

JayZ


Completely unofficial of course. XDA Devs is your friend...

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Not much bigger than the Trinity which means that this WILL be my next device. Anyone know if it will be available in white as I come to like my white Trinity loads.

My O2 contract is up at end of August so just in time to switch over to T-Mobile.

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Not much bigger than the Trinity which means that this WILL be my next device. Anyone know if it will be available in white as I come to like my white Trinity loads.

My O2 contract is up at end of August so just in time to switch over to T-Mobile.

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nice review Paul. Seems that HTC finally put in a decent camera after so many years. Cant wait to get my hands on this ASAP.

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I agree that the Kaiser is a very exciting phone and it will be hard to not get one, currently use Cingular 8525 (Hermes). some of the additions are very nice, 128 RAM, GPS, rubber feel, flip up screen. But, honestly i will reserve calling a phone complete until the internal ROM is above 1 GB and more importantly when we will have a video accelerator in these devices. Such as the O2 Flame with built-in NVIDIA GoForce 5500 video accelerator and VGA screen.

With a 520MHz processor and video accelerator, now that would be a fast phone. and it has 2 GB of internal memory. All that phone needs is a QWERTY keyboard, WM6, and GPS. If a phone had all of this, then it would be a complete phone!

http://www.seeo2.com...late/Product.vm
http://www.engadget....et-pc-high-end/

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I agree that the Kaiser is a very exciting phone and it will be hard to not get one, currently use Cingular 8525 (Hermes). some of the additions are very nice, 128 RAM, GPS, rubber feel, flip up screen. But, honestly i will reserve calling a phone complete until the internal ROM is above 1 GB and more importantly when we will have a video accelerator in these devices. Such as the O2 Flame with built-in NVIDIA GoForce 5500 video accelerator and VGA screen.

With a 520MHz processor and video accelerator, now that would be a fast phone. and it has 2 GB of internal memory. All that phone needs is a QWERTY keyboard, WM6, and GPS. If a phone had all of this, then it would be a complete phone!

http://www.seeo2.com...late/Product.vm
http://www.engadget....et-pc-high-end/


What about the HTC Advantage X7501?

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The O2 Flame looks like it's super powerful, but imagine how quickly the battery in that thing would run out the moment you started using accelerated graphics or really working th CPU... The advantage of these combined chips is increased battery life - and I'd rather have a slower MHz device which lasts longer! The Megahertz War is quite meaningless nowadays though, what with all these companies making their own reduced instruction set (RISC) CPUs which I'm sure have their own optimisations and power-saving routines built into them... It's not what you've got, it's how you use it :)


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You're one lucky so and so for getting your mitts on a review unit... I tried speaking to TM direct a few times to ask them when they'd be getting their branded handsets in, the most I could get out of one bloke was that they usually get their own branded versions of new smartphone handsets about two months after they go on sale direct from the OEM, so I can't wait to get mine! I'm so happy I'm on Flext with Web 'n Walk HSDPA too... My Vario 2 is a great handset, but from the moment I read about the Kaiser I knew I needed to have it.



This'll beat the crap outta the iPhone. ;) :D :D B) B)



We need more pics of the slide and tilt mechanism though! More I say! MOAR!

Good review :P

Edited by Christopher Woods, 02 July 2007 - 06:11 PM.

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